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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSouth Side Panel Group 02Group 2 Marilyn Hrdlika Fugate Jack Fugate Betty Dean Jack Dean I N SouthSide Memory Lane March 24, 1995 v Moderator: Transcriptionist: Interview Group: Lisa Burns Sylvia Martinez Betty Dean Jack Dean Jack Fugate Marilyn Fugate 0 This is Lisa Burns. Today is March 24, 1995. I am interviewing for the first time Marilyn Hrdlicka Fugate, Jack Fugate, Betty Dean, and Jack Dean. This interview is taking place in the Teen Center of the College Station Conference Center at 1300 George Bush Drive, College Station Texas. This interview is sponsored by the Historic Preservation Committee and the Conference Center Advisory Committee of the City of College Station, Texas. It is part of the Memory Lane'Oral History Project I am Betty Dean of 304 Grove Street College Station. I am her husband Jack Dean at the same address. I'm Jack Fugate formerly of College Station now of Burleson County,Texas and I am Marilyn Hrdlicka Fugate of Somerville. Lisa - Well, let's begin in the formative years, Let's find out when you came to College Station, maybe where you grew up. Would you like to begin? Betty - We came to College Station in 1957 and we moved in and bought the ho se that professor Brooks built on 304 Grove Street. Lisa - OK and what year was that? Betty - 1957, August of that year. Lisa - OK, and how old were you at that time? Betty - Oh my goodness I am going to have to do some arithmetic Lisa - how old were you when you moved here? Betty - I'm 86 no subtract 30 years. Lisa - 30 years o d. So where did you spend your childhood years? Betty - My childhood? Well, I was in Florida when I met him, before that 'I worked for the Red Cross as a nurse in a blood bank for the war and I graduated from the New England Deacon's Hospital in Boston and I was born in Boston so I was raised up there. Lisa - OK very good, Jack? Jack D. - Well, I came here from Houston, Texas. I was with the Houston Press down there which was a scandal sheet in those days. And everybody who did anything in Houston or any of the places that were out of line, why, it didn't matter what it was whether they had a lot of money or didn't have any they went in the paper and they were really sometimes were almost ostracized. Well from that time that I came up here and,got a job with the Eagle too, I've always been on the business side not on the editorial side and I stayed with them for about five years and then I went into business for myself. My childhood, I was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, raised in North Dakota, Minnesota and South Florida and then during the war I served in the South Pacif c and that's about it. Lisa - OK wonderful, thank you, Jack Fugate? Jack F. - Well, I came here in 1935, a student at A &M, entered and stayed on. Took me five years, but I managed it, got out, and after that, back to Houston. I am from Houston originally and I stayed there a year and went into the service. I had a commission from the ROTC training here at A &M. Went into the service and made several different posts around the state two or three Louisiana maneuvers and in 1943, Marilyn and I decided to get married. In fact she asked me to. We were married in the YMCA Chapel on the A &M campus on Thanksgiving Day of 1943. From there we went to Hattisburg, Mississippi. I was stationed at Camp Shelby. We were there only a short while and we headed to Fort Bragg North Carolina and from North Carolina, I eventually went over to Europe, spent several months over there in combat and then came back to the states, because I was injured. Went back to general duty in 1946. Went to Japan and later got out of the Army. Came to College Station, settled down and went in the printing business. Stayed in the printing business for a number of years 'till 1973 and sold out to Newman printing company in Bryan. I had started a little rubber stamp business. A little business with the late Bill Moon and I had a hand shake partnership which you won't find anymore. After fifteen years we worked together on that. And then in 1979 Bill decided to get out, I bought him out and continued on operating it and eventually moved into Bryan in 1985 an& there we stayed seven years. And then I sold, we now live over at Somerville Area at the lake. Lisa - OK thank you, Marilyn? Marilyn - That do1esn't leave me much to say. I was born February 22, 1922 The old home place was one mile south of Kyle Field on the old Wellborn Road which later became the Houston Highway 6 and I went to Consolidated School. Lisa - Can you tell us something about the area that you lived in what else was there? Marilyn - it was a cotton field and pasture from George Bush Boulevard to Luther and was owned by Kana and then Daddy's property started. The area was undeveloped and he built the grocery store here. He was the first Gulf dealer in Brazos County. And he later became the first person to get a Beer License in BrazoE county. 2 name? Marilyn - Ed Hrdligka had the grocery store there. Later we rebuilt it. Lisa - In today's structure of the town where would that have been? Jack F. - One mile south of Kyle Field on Wellborn Road where the Picnic Pantry is now, do you know where that is, and the Chinese food place? Lisa - Yes. Marilyn - Do you know where Fish Richard's was? Lisa - Yes. Marilyn - I was born in the wine room of Fish Richard's. They bought from us and they turned it into a restaurant. Jack D. - What was the name of that grocery store the Shamrock Oil Company purchase up there on the corner of University and Highway 6? Jack F. - Oh, that was Louis Maes. Jack D. - Louis Maes, yea. Betty - Marilyn, you know the song "I'd rather be a Texas Aggie "? How does that refer in that song? Marilyn - Let's go out to Ed's and drink our cares away. That was written at Uncle Ed's by Jack Littlejohn. Colonel Dunn wrote the music to "Spirit of Aggieland," but that was before Uncle Ed's.. Mary L. - And you dad's store was in that song and the singing cadets still sing that song. Marilyn - Well I haven't heard it in so long. I have the sheet music to it. Mary L. - And the name of it is "I'd rather be a Texas Aggie." You haven't heard that song? Lisa - No, but I'm going to have to now, yes. Marilyn - They don't play it very much. Mary L.- I wonder why. I think the singing cadets sing it almost every year. I wonder if they'll sing it at their last concert with Mr. Boone. 3 Mary L. - Well its a real cute song. Where can you find a record? Is there one? Marilyn - I don't I cnow, I have the sheet music. Jack F. - The singing cadets sold that, y ou can get it at the book store, I imagine. Lisa - so you said,that surrounding your house at that time were cotton fields? Marilyn - Yes, and pastures. The property went all the way to Holleman, which was county road then but it was renamed Holleman, He started selling lots and if I'm not mistaken he gave the property for the church, St. Matthew's. Where the Lincoln Center is was all my dad's. Jack F. - Hrdlicka property was on Fairview east and all the way from up here down to the Holleman drive now which was county road at that time and now back over to joining the Swartz's property. In fact there were 304 acres in the track if I remember correctly reading over these things here. Marilyn - On Dexter or there about was a big tank or a lake and I remember mother told me that she had to go all that distance to get our cows before they can milk them. From close to Wellborn road all the way that's where she had to go. That was part of our property. Lisa - Is that were the park is now? Marilyn - They had to drain the lake finally, the city, I think. Betty - Why did they have to do that. It would be so pretty if there was a lake there nowo Marilyn - Health easons, I guess. Jack - The colleg had influence on that at that time because it wasn't!, the city. It was done before the city. It was done in the 30 Mary L. - Well, you know when they decided to drain that lake Mrs. Clark who lived next door to the Lancaster's sat on the damn with the butcher knife and they had to get the sheriff to come and remove Mrs. Clark because she did not want them to drain the lake. Do you remember that? Jack F. - No, I read about it or seen or heard them tell the story of it. I don't know how true it is. 4 Betty - It took about 30 minutes I think. Jack F. - F.B. Clark was the economics professor there at A &M and he was one of the persons, F.B. Clark, the Lancasters, the Bu tons, the Scoates. Lisa Well � �Y just be one more thing. Can You tell us just some typical things about living in that house at that time? Like where did you shop for food? Marilyn - My daddy had a grocery store. There were two wholesale grocery icompanies in Bryan, and one in Navasota. Lisa - Well that's true. How did he get goods in? Marilyn - We had a Delcoplant at the store and he wired it over to the house.) I always say as soon as I was tall enough to see over the counter he put me to work. Some of my fondest memories are in that grocery store. Betty - What was the grocery store called? What was the name Of it? Marilyn - Hrdlicka Grocery. I remember Gypsy's coming by in big touring cars, and I was scared to death of themo I had heard that they Ldnapped children. Betty - Way back then. Lisa - How did you get to school? Where did you go to school? Marilyn - The bus came from Wellborn. But usually my brother, he had almodel A and he would take me. He was four years older than I was and he would take me to school and then come, get me at noon and take me home, and then come pick me up. But I ride the bus, some. Lisa - And was school on the A &M campus at that time? Marilyn - it was at the end of new Joe Route Boulevard, that's when it was in the big stucco building and the whole school was there. Grade 1 up through high school. Jack F. - Right to the north of what we call the new dorm area, I guess it'was just to the north later became the band hall was just built, the Aggie Band Hall. of course after they built those new dormitories over there it didn't really move this way as far as campus is concerned Marilyn - but then from that building they moved it to Pfeuffer Hall on the campus right next to the academic 5 building. I think it was condemned but we still went to school there until they built this over here. Lisa - So how many of your school years did you go? Marilyn - I think after they completed this school I think I was here one year but the rest of it was either in the old school or in Pfeuffer Hall. Lisa - And who owned the property that this school? Jack F. - I think this was Dobrovolny property. Marilyn - I think so, the Holik's were in here somewhere too. Lisa - OK great. Let's go into different types of businesses in the area. You said you came here with the Eagle, correct, and you lived in the South Gate area. Can you tell us a little bit about your neighborhood, your home? Betty - The trees,were very small. I remember that because I have pictures of our house when we bought it and I can't believe the trees have grown in 38 years like they have. But since I've aged the way I have I guess the trees have to and we loved Soutli Side. You could do anything and everything on South Side. The building that is now a drive in not a drive in but a combination garage, not garage, but gas station and convenience store is on the right as you look from George Bush on the corner of Highland. That was a doctor's office and it was wonderful to have it there. In case of an emergency you could just walk over there and then on the other side, some the buildings, some of the companies are still there, but didn't you have a place there in that group that South Side building and we had a barbershop up there. And we had Mr. Pruitt is still there, you could go buy material for 4 dress there was that wonderful grocery store on the corner, you could get almost anything you wanted, There was a dentist on the second floor, you didn't need to go anywhere. Lisa - can you remember some of the names of the doctors and the dentist and who owned the stores? Betty - Cathecar , Dr. Cathecart. He was there for a long time. He was a dentist. Yeah, and I've got the teeth he took out for me to prove it. Lisa - To prove it? Betty - Yes, and I wish he was still there and let's see a doctor who had a very short name. Was it Hoyt? Jack D. - Dr. Hol.t and Dr. Andre. 6 Betty - Oh, Dr. Andre the original lived there. That's right because he owned a house one block down I remember and let's see. . . Jack D. - Madeley also. Betty - Madeley's Pharmacy, didn't I say Madeley's Pharmacy? Oh I used to go ug there when he was out of town at noon and get myself a banana split and it did me in until supper time. Boy that banana split was good! And my son grew up on their tomato soup. Really, they had little luncheonettes, Didn't they? Jack D. - Yeah. Betty - Later, I had a daycare center and once a week their treat was to walk'to Madeley's and get some ice cream, an ice cream cone. And I remember those high places around the booths and the kids couldn't look over them. And people were always amazed, these children weren't standing on the seat looking over. Not one of them ever did it and several people would often times come to me and say, I had about eight children. How can you possibly keep these children from and I'd say well they know that seats are to sit on and not to stand on. They'd been brought up that way in my daycare center. And they were so well behaved that everyone would tell me about it, of course that came later in around the 80 Let's see I was, I quit when I was seventy. Jack D. - Late 60's in the 70 Lisa - Did you have a name for your day care center? Betty - Tauntie's Tiny Tykes, Tauntie means aunt and I was to old to be called by my first name and I didn't want it to be so formal to be called Mrs. Dean. So I thought well I've always been taught to call elders tauntie when I was growing up because my folks came from Europe. Well, we'll just call Tauntie's Tiny Tykes so that is the name I used a little different spelling. I didn't have a sign or anything because I approached my neighbors and asked them if they would object to my having it there. I said there won't be any sign. It will still look the same, It won't change the residence. So they agreed that it was all right. In fact they used me whenever they had an emergency, visitors came. But those place and the grocery store was called. . . Jack F. - Well, Ray Oden had the South Side Grocery, the original owner if I'm not mistaken. Ray Oden. Jack D. - Is he the one that had Food Town later? Jack F. - Yes, I,think so. 7 Jack F. - And then Sam Rizzo came later. Jack D - I remember Sam's place. Betty - Once a week I took my children to one of the businesses there and one of our treats was to the grocery store. I said now we're not going to buy anything but make believe we're going to buy something and see if you can find it. So we'd walk around and people would say your kids aren't touching anything. They'd always walk with their hands behind their backs and they'd love the outing day. And then we went to the yard good store and we pretended we were going to buy 'a suit or a blouse and what kind of material would they like. And they'd go around and they'd pick the material and we'd talk about that material. So they got around an education I think we even went to the barber shop to see where they wanted to get their hair I can't remember. Marilyn - They didn't go to the print shop? Betty - No, it was before the days. Jack D - No, the print shop was there, oh yea. Betty - It was there and I didn't get them to your shop. Oh my goodness me. Jack F. - Depends on when it was because I left there in 170, Lisa - What was the name of your print shop? Jack F. - Fugate Printing Company. Betty - I started my day care. Jack F. - I moved the business back to the house in 1 70. Jack D. - You did? Jack F. - And then sold out in 1 73. Lisa - Was there a business there before Fugate Printing or were you the original? Jack F. - No, there had been several. I think the first thing that was in there was Youngblood Clean and Press Shop. Marilyn - Was that where Dave's Pizza is now, is that the same building? A H Jack F. - I believe so right, And then, let's see, Joe Faulk Auto Parts was in there. He and what was commandant assistant name, Joe Davis. Joe Davis and Joe Faulk open up a store there and then they moved it into Bryan. Betty - Where about South Gate was it? Jack F. - Where my,,shop was, at 330 Jersey. Betty - Oh really? Jack F. - Yes ma'am. I was still in the service at that time. The reason I knew is I had to buy a trailer hitch there. I had to buy an old trailer, carry the baby bed around and I had to put a hitch on it. Jack D. - I remember Joe Faulk down in Bryan. Didn't know he was out here. Jack F. - They started out here. Jack D. - 'Cause I think he bought a piece of property, residential property on Montclair° It's about the second house from the end and I remember different ones saying, well they're gonna have a bunch of aggies there. And you won't be able to park and the neighborhood is gonna deteriorate and everything else. It was a two story, two decker and probably, I don't know 7 or 8 maybe 10,15 guys living there at one time. You remember that? Betty - It had an outside staircase. Jack F. - It's right across from the grocery store. Jack D. - Yeah, And they didn't have a gas station there either and then all of a sudden, Texaco came along, I can remember Mrs. Colson saying they slipped that over us, there wasn't supposed to be anything else built in that area of a commercial nature. And some how or another that gas station came in there and'I think it was a Gulf Station first I'm not sure and then it became a. . . Jack F. - It was Texaco. Jack D. - Was it? Jack F. - Gulf was on the other corner. Jack D. - Yea, Texaco OK. Mary L. - I remember too that upstairs where Dr. Cathecart and Dr. Andre were, one of the leading Architectural firms L 6 started, Mardel Rollins and Scott. And they became one of L the leading architecture firms of the world. With offices in Houston, New York, London. Lisa - I didn't know that they'd gotten that big! Mary L. - They designed this round school auditorium. They specialized in schools, I know, for the first part. Betty - I didn't know they had gotten that big. Jack F. - Oh yeah, they were world wide. Mary L. - They designed this round school auditorium here. They specialized in schools I know for the first part. Betty - Those blu' roof mobile homes what was it called? Marilyn - Blue Top Courts. Betty - Blue Top Courts they had little houses that you could stay at and they had blue roofs on them. And I remember my mother and father were with us and we were looking for a place to live over in Bryan. And he liked it because it was next to emptiness and it was a gravel road and everything. And I said but its not big enough and it had wallpaper instead of other things on the wall and he thought that would be real nice in a "Florida" room and I said what are we gonna do with only one bathroom, we've got kids going to school and he said well, we'll buy one of those blue top cabin that are for sale over there across from the campus and we'll add it on here. And that will give us a bath and an extra room. So that's how I remember those blue, that Was the only thing across the street. Where city hall is around that area. Jack F. - The Hollywood shacks. Lisa - The Hollywood houses, OK. Marilyn - Before the dorms. Jack F. - Over the area where Lawyer and Puryear Halls are. In that area there, there were 20x20, 16x16 frame buildings and they housed Students. Jack D. - They weren't very big. Jack F. - Well, 16x16 tent but they were called the Hollywood shacks. Marilyn - They were called Hollywood shacks. They were painted brown. U 10 Jack F. - I don't know just what year they moved them off of there because Law and Puryear were both built when I came. But when they sold them off, her brother bought one of them and moved into the back yard down there at the house. He lived in that while on campus. They had a latrine you know just a common latrine, just strictly GI stuff. There's still one down there on Montclair at the Hamilton house. Remember that old house back there where Ms. Hamilton lived back on the right side on the south side of her house there was one of those Hollywood shacks. Jack D. - On Montclair, I can't place it. Jack F. - A big house, one of those old college houses. Betty - Oh where Don lived for a while, kinds back? Jack D. - No, Don lived back this way further. No Miss Hamilton. . . Betty - Hamilton, yea. Jack F. - They had a Mrs. Hamilton boarding house there. Betty - Didn't he become a sheriff or something? Jack F. - He was sheriff, for a number of years. Betty - Yea, I remember that it was the last house on the left. It was remodeled. Jack F. - To the right of that on the south there was a little house back there a little one room deal and that was one of those Hollywood shacks. Betty - Oh that little house that's back there. Oh is that a fact. Marilyn - See it isn't so small, its pretty large. Betty - Yea, they had a little apartment that they'd rent. Lisa - How did the big events at Texas A &M, you know, like the football game . How did that effect your lives here? Marilyn - On Friday night there was t he organization ball and on Saturday might there was the Corps dance. Jack F. - Organization balls, Artillery ball, Infantry ball, Engineering ball and in addition to that they had the Cotton ball. That was your real entertainment and your organization dances and always were big bands. They made the college circuit, you know the big bands did and of course it was SOP that if you had a date with a girl for 11 the artillery ball for instance, you automatically had a date for the Corps dance even if she was going steady with you or not, that was automatic. That was the way we started dating. Her friend was in the Cavalry. He couldn't take her to the artillery ball and I did so I had another date Saturday night. v Betty - Another thing for entertainment that we did was go to the drive in movie. The drive in remember the drive in and we'd eat there. Lisa - Was it the circle? Betty - Yea it was the Circle it was up where Skaggs used to be. You know, where that business is now but that was a big event for the kids they loved to go. And we went not quite often, but we went once in a while. Jack D. - The Ags used to always go to Denton to get their dates too because there weren't any girls at A &M at the time. And it, just a lot of guys would leave when the weather was bad and they'd still go to Denton to get them a date and they'd have to bring them back. Jack F. - They'd run buses down here from Denton and the girls stayed in a vacated dormitory, and they stayed in the dormitory. And you'd shack up with somebody else you know you'd go to another dormitory that wasn't vacated with the weekend guest. Betty - Did they ever ask some of the residents to take some of the girls in? Jack F. - oh yes always. Betty - They did. Jack F. - Ms. Lancaster always did and the Laudersteins that had a tailor shop. Mr. and Mrs. Lauderstein they had a nice home over here at College Hills. And they rented out. I think it cost you a dollar and a half a night or something and they stayed there. Mary L. - Ms. Lancaster used to put her boys in the attic, on the third floor and rent out their rooms on the weekend. And one weekend a young woman came whose named was Katherine Grandstat. She stayed for the weekend and had a date and went to a dance and later she changed her name to Katherine Grant and became Mrs. Bing Crosby. Betty - I read about that one day, I think that your husband wrote something and I read it in the paper. 12 Lisa - Well that 4 interesting. You said there was the drive in movie and dances. Can you think of any other kind of family entertainment? Betty - Well the churches always had things you know. The church always had something going on. our church always had programs during Lent and things like that. Lisa - And what churches were here at that time? Betty - St. Thomas Chapel, The Episcopal church was here when we came now I don't know what was here when ya'll came. Marilyn - I went to the Methodist Church which is now First United A &M Methodist Church. It was then just A &M Methodist. Jack F. - The Tabernacle Building too. Marilyn - Yes Betty - The Baptist Church was right next to it. Jack F. - St. Mary's Catholic was on the corner. Marilyn - Yes, the Catholic Church. Jack F. - And the Presbyterian Church was in the YMCA Chapel. Marilyn - That's where we got married. Betty - of course there were churches down in Bryan too, we used to go down to that one in Bryan we still do after we went to St. Thomas for a while. While the kids were in school we went to St. Thomas because their classmates went there. Then after they left home then we went to St. Andrews. Well, we still go down there. And then when the neighborhood began to grow and students and things began to move in. We had an area I don't know it started after you left I guess they started what they call the neighborhood area, neighborhood committee or area. And they used to have buffet suppers, meetings and things in that park, to try to help preserve so we wouldn't get to. Did you ever go to any of those, Mary? The gatherings that we had. We had a president and everything. It went on for about 4 -5 years. I don't know what happened to it. Marilyn - I can' # remember Betty - Yea I have a real nice picture of Mr. Laverty. There was a Japanese boy living with us and he came and took some pictures and he got real nice picture of Mrs. Laverty and I meant to bring it. She's not very well I guess. I 13 don't know whether she'd recognize it or not, but I think the daughter would like to have it. So I think I'll just put it in the mail for the daughter, since I have the address. I've been meaning to bring it over there, when I would walk around with the children during day care I'd forget to take it with me, and drop it by. Lisa - And this was Billie Goat Park or Hensel Park. Betty - Yes, there's where we used to meet, we discussed a lot of things. And I thought it was really going to go somewhere but all of a sudden it peated out. Which I thought was real good, because with students, so many students living in the area now it's not the nice dutiful neighborhood we moved into. Our street happens to be very nice we happen to have people there that are caring, but when you have kids driving up on the lawn in muddy weather, and there's ruts in the lawn and because there isn't any parking they feel that they can drive on the lawn. And if I see them I'm real bold but you know age is bold, old is bold. You can do anything and get by with it. So we had some circulars printed. Ms. Pugh, she's here you'd know her, and what do I want to say, they used to live behind us they had the lumber company over there. Marilyn - Helen Pugh ® Betty - Yea, and she had some printed and I have copies of it and when I'm on my tricycle, I'll go around if I see a car on the grass, I'll put it on. There's a fine, there's an ordinance, there's a fine for it and I'll say does your family own a home back home? Yes. Would your mom and dad let you park your car on the front lawn? And they say "no ". And I'll say this is your home away from home why do you park your car in the front lawn, we'd like the neighborhood to look nice. And so they'll thank me for it. I'll tell them there's a fine for it. I haven't done it lately because I haven't been on my tryke that much. And another thing they let the lawns grow, so I'll rap on the door and say "Did you know if you don't cut your lawn pretty soon the city is going to do it and they'll charge you $50 to do it ?" And they'll say they will? And I say yea. If you want to do it Saturday I'll get my lawn mower and come over and help you and of course I'm an old lady. So they see that and say well I plan to do it this weekend I was going to rent a lawn mower and it gets mowed. Lisa - Were there any special challenges about having a business in South Gate? Marilyn - Oh not in South Gate, I'm thinking of North Gate. Lisa - There you go. There weren't really any difficult hardships about having a business in South Side. What about 14 WW II? I know boWerhefthe you effects mentioned of WW Il were maybe and after. What community? Jack F. - Well you had quite an influx of students after the war with the GI bill and temporary housing and everything else on campus. Betty - Wasn't housing hard to get during that time? Jack F. - Oh definitely. Betty - Because I know when we moved up here he had a hard time finding a place to live and you finally got apartment down on college Avenue across from Duncan Street. And we had two kids and two dogs and we got lucky they were going to take us and then in the mean time he found what was our landlord's name. Up at the end of Duncan by the railroad tracks there were 2 houses, I think an A &M graduate lived in one of them. He was a bachelor and he was renting the other one out and we were able to get that. And I remember it was $75 a month rent and I took such good care of the yard he gave me some money to go buy plants and things like that. Then I started taking care of his yard and taking care of his flower box and it was real nice because he reduced our rent a little bit because of the things I was doing. We were lucky to get that. Marilyn - There w�s an air base here even after the war for a time, Bryan Air Force Base, and that made housing very hard to find didn't it? Jack F. - I believe, in 1951 wasn't it, that they reactivated out there? Jack D. - It closed up about the time we got up here. Jack F. - They even housed freshmen out there for a couple of years. Those dorms they had out there for the cadets, the Air ForcverabetA &Nthat now trained air base hasf course its all been taken o y Marilyn - It was one of the first jet bases wasn't it? Jack F. - Night training too, navigator night training also. and they will, I think. Did they train out there or do you recall. Jack D. - I think he did seems like, he had something out there the first, the first time around seems like he trained out there, I'm not sure. v 15 Lisa - Now with the businesses you said your dad extended credit and probably cash, what about your business on South Side, how did people buy, was cash, credit? Jack F. - Paid on delivery or else there was credit. But so much of it was institutional type. Lisa - Where did you get your supplies and your inventory materials and. . . Jack F. - This was 1 58. Well I had opened up there at the house. See I went in business there in the back yard and I got my supplies out of Houston or San Antonio, depending on the salesman that came through. Paper salesman, equipment salesman and there wasn't any problem getting that. The main thing was paying for it when the bill came through. Lisa - What about shopping for clothes or different things like that, did people. . . Marilyn - When Lester's moved to Bryan, they took over. Betty - We had Montgomery Wards and Sears didn't we? Jack F. - But you had to mail order. Marilyn - Sears - -mail order. Betty - Montgomery Wards had a store didn't they? Down town that burned? Weren't there a couple of stores? Marilyn - Edges on the corner. Jack F. - Well there's a men's store on this end. Marilyn - Waldrop, it's still there (Heritage). Jack F. - Conway's, WSD. Betty - The most beautiful jewelry store's down there. I use to love to go to Bryan. Jack D - A pretty nice little town. Marilyn - The Palace Theater. Lisa - The palace, was the Queen there too? Betty - And the La Salle Hotel. Do you remember when it was turned into a residential. That was a very nice place because they had different floors and different levels. Is that after you moved from here? Where they needed care. A nursing home on 2 floors and as the floors went up less and OF less care was necessary and the top floor was a residential. 16 And a lot of retired people who lived up there it was really nice and I hate to see it the way it is. I was hoping they'd restore it. Jack F. - Did Mrs. Roundtree, the Bryan Eagle publisher, live there, Jack? Betty - They had a good restaurant. Jack D - She died before, when I came up here. Jack F. - Oh I see, she lived at the La Salle Hotel. Jack D - I know when I was interviewing for a job I came up here it was in the winter time and I stayed over night at the La Salle and it was cold. I remember that. Practically no heat there. And I think I paid $5 for the room. And I slept with all my clothes on I think because it was so cold. And then when I got up in the morning and everything seems like I went downstairs. I forget where I ate breakfast. Betty - They had a cafe, they had a nice place to eat down there. Jack F. - Gosh during the 1 30's La Salle's was a first rate place. There's no question about it a first rate hotel. My parents would stay there when they came up. My dad would stay, some short courses from Houston, you had a party and they always stayed at the La Salle. Lisa - So those were the two hotels, the LaSalle and. . . Jack F. - The LaSalle it was the Shamrock if you want to call it that and then you had the Bryan Hotel. Marilyn - Right across the street. Jack F. - Then there was one up over the of Hews office Supply. Marilyn - Charles. Jack F. - Charles Hotel. Betty - Yea I'd forgotten about that one. Jack F. - Blue Top was the first one. Ed Garner put in Sands. Marilyn - Ed Garner put in Sands. Jack F. - And then the Saber went in, that's all in the 4 W 1 50's and 1 60 1 s. 17 Jack D. - There's several of them up and down main street on Texas Avenue I forgot the names of them and what's their names? Mary L. - Schulcies- Schulcies son, daughter and son -in -law had a motel. Marilyn - Yea, Ed Garner. Jack F. - That was the same one. All right- I did their printing. In fact I still have one of their own logos that we used on their stationery. Marilyn - Well, I bet he'd like to have that. Mary L. - You know Ed Garner designed the first Aggie cap. Marilyn - I didn't know that. Betty - So that he owned a sporting good store and that is all recorded I think in the North Gate Section of the history. So he designed the first A &M baseball type cap and made it and sold it. Jack - Ed was a gb getter. Betty & Marilyn - Yes he was. Betty - In the early days when ya'll were up here did you have many snow storms in this town? Marilyn - No, well it was after 1 48 I guess when we had that big snow storm. I think that's the only one we've been in. Jack D. - 1 50 - 1 51 we were in Houston. Everybody's pipes froze up. Marilyn - That's the only one I can remember. Jack F. - Yea in 1 51 was a big ice storm all the lines were down, our butane froze, water froze. We didn't have city water at that time. Betty - Since we've lived here we've had a 5 inch storm and I happened to take a picture of it. I measured it there on top of the picnic table. It started to melt real fast before I got the snowman built, you can see the grass. Lisa - In 1984. Betty- Yea, that's pretty recent. 4 0 Lisa - you can get a snowman out of it. Betty - Yes, I got a snowman out of it, but I was wondering if the climate had changed much since those early days. Jack F. - Not predictable just like it is right now. I think in 1 39, winter of 1 39 we had a pretty heavy snow storm here because we had just moved into the new dorms on campus what they called the new dorms at that time and that's corps area. Now that's corps area. Those dorms opened up in the fall semester of 1939. Mary - My husband Bill still calls those the new dorms. Students laugh at him because they were built in 1 39. Jack F. - I lived in #8 room 101, right off the street. Oh, it has changed through the years but I tell you. Marilyn - Eugene Oats, he just passed away. Jack's room mate. Jack F. - He was a counselor after he retired from the service he was a counselor and also set up the bus system. Jack D - who was that? Jack - Eugene Oats, Colonel Oats. His wife was Lou Collier from Houston. And she worked for the old Triple A. And he met her when she was working for Triple A, remember that big old frame building out here where we'd have all these girl stenographers. When the Agricultural Administration Act first opened up. They had typewriters and computers I mean computers and all that stuff down there and they just went out and recruited stenographers and typists and everything else. There was lots of ladies there, lots of girls. Mary - They were �ucky girls on this campus. Jack F. - They never wanted for a date I'm sure. $etty - Wasn't a bicycle in the area? Jack F. - Didn't have an automobile, you couldn't take them anywhere. Marilyn - A lot of them had cars. Mary - Well, it was fun for you Marilyn, growing up with all the boys. Marilyn - Yes it was. Betty (To Mary) - When the college began enlarging I remember your husband calling me. He knew we had a little C old apartment built for my mother in the back and mother had died. Boy how he had to work to get me to rent that to the M students. He didn't last very long, I told him to get out he was a fire trap. Oh he was really something. I was afraid he was going to set fire to the place. He smoked and smoked and smoked and, I remember they were destitute for places for kids to stay. It really grew real fast. Mary - Yes and students were just going up and down the streets asking people at their doors. I can remember in the early 1 70 1 s. It grew so fast. Lisa - Well you all have brought pictures and it looks like maps - would you be willing to share any of these with the project? They say the copies of the originals would be made and then returned to ya'll unharmed. Would you be willing to share those. Great! 0 Jack D. - His boy is, works for Buddie's appliances now. Betty - No, not the architect's son. Jack D. - No, No. Betty - Price's son. Jack D - Yeah, not the architect's son, but somebody else that was there, what was their names? They went to school with Andy. Betty - Yeah Price, no, it wasn't Price because Price had moved to West TeXas. Betty - Yes, I know but his kid can come back here to work he'd be about working age. There also was a I think it was a Masonic meeting place and it's still there and it's still used for that purpose. I don't know when it was built, when was it do you know? The Masonic place? Marilyn - I think it was built before 1 51. And then Park Cleaners has always been there. 20 Betty - Oh yes that's right. I had forgot all about Park. They are still there. rip U Jack D. - Pruitts and Park and, Mason's. Betty - Seems that that end stayed. It was this front and the other East end changed hands but the west end stayed. Lisa - Do you know who originally owned that building? The strip at west side? Jack F - Who originally owned it? Lisa - Owned or constructed it. Marilyn - Dan Russell. Jack F. - No, he bought it from somebody. Jack D. - I think Hershel Burgess and it could have been Burgess and Russell. I know Russell owned it when I was in there from 1958 to 1970, Dr. Russell, Dr. Dan Russell owned the building. He passed away along about that time I moved out of here. I believe somewhere along in that area. Lisa - OK let's talk a little more about Grove Street. About who owned your house before you bought it. Betty - Professor Brooks, I don't remember his first name, built the house and lived in it for about 6 years & then it was rented to an Italian woman that had some children. Do you remember her name & her little girl contracted measles and they moved away and she finally died after home care for years and years. Do you remember who that was? Jack F. - Stelley. Betty - Stelley, yes that's who that was. Lisa - Randall Stelley. Jack F. - Yes Randall Stelley. Betty - Yeah, they were renting it. And it was a vacant when we purchased it, but they were the last. I think they were the only renters after the Brooks moved. Jack D. - That T.D. Brooks he was a decent one. Betty - He was a professor at A &M. Jack D. - He was Dean T.D. Brooks. 21 Betty - I can't remember his first name we never did meet him because he had already. . . Jack D. - he was already in Illinois. Betty - Illinois r Michigan I don't know where in another university. Jack F. - The only thing I can think of is T.D. Brooks when I was in school here. Mr. Bardin Nelson handled. Betty - Yea, he is here. Jack - The real estate. Betty - He would know more about it because he is here today and Grove Street had just let's see on the corner, Ms. Maria Ashton lived and their house was moved off of campus. Next to us we had a little modern house. It was modern for that day it was built by an architect and I don't remember his name. Do you remember his name? He built on the corner of Grove and Highland. It's real small but very modern type house very open type house. I mean the kitchen and the dining area and the hall and the living room were all open. Jack D. - It wasn't Masburn was it? Betty - No, Masburn rented for a while, I think they bought it for a while. And then our house and then there was an empty lot and we dickered quite a while with the Murphy's who lived on the corner Mr. Murphey died recently. Did you know that? Jack F. - I was thinking about him. I saw where he passed away weeks ago. Betty - Real quickly, he was killed in an automobile accident, he had a heart attack while driving. And we wanted to buy one half of the lot. So we could keep it open. You know, and we consulted with the Murpheys to see if they were interested in the other half but they had so much land on the south Side of their house they didn't want any more land. And we went to Ms. Ashton, she owned the property and talked to her about it but she wanted more than what we had at the time to get it. And the Mr. Byers, Milton Byers moved over from Pladitty over there and built a house next to us, and they're still there. And on the opposite corner from Murphey's is still an empty lot. The Colson's who lived in the house directly across from us had planned to build a home there some day and that's why it was never built on but they never got it built. And the Bolsa Colson's are gone now. 61 22 Jack D. - The Colson's controlled the Grove Street, that particular area, and we wanted to have it curbed and guttered because they owned three fourths of the property on that area, they got their way. We wanted it and so did the Murphey's and the Byer's and the people on the corner, but that wasn't sufficient and to this day we haven't got gutters or curbs. Betty - But the rest of the street is curbed and guttered so we are still count on our street and it seemed like really country for that reason because it wasn't curbed and guttered. And I know you could look down the street and the trees kinda meet in the middle and you look the other way and there were more trees and it was a very quiet area but a very interesting thing happened the day the house was purchased. Mr. Colson's yard was empty and we moved in the first of August and the backyard was full of heavy equipment that you could see from our house, parked in the back there and I said huh? Look at that stuff across the street. And he was out there on a job and had his equipment with him but he had the scapers and diggers. You know what he had. A whole mess of stuff and it was parked in his back yard. But of course we could see it from our front yard. And I said Gee, Whiskers, I wonder if we would have purchased knowing that all that stuff was there you know. But they were, he was a very quiet and a different kind of neighbor he was very hard to get along with but Mrs. Colson, she had control over here because she wanted to be more friendly but she wasn't because after he died and she lived there alone, she began to come out of her shell and she was interested in the children that I had and sometimes we would go over and see here and she'd talk to them, but I never went inside his house until after he died. If you wanted to talk about something you were invited into the screen porch and you did your visiting there, but so that's all there was in our particular area. Now down on the other area we had. the. . . who was it that lived on the corner? Jack D. - Where? Marilyn - Was it Longly? Betty - Longly on the corner, thank you, and across the street we had Mr. & Mrs. Royder. And then we had one what was that professors wife who was in the athletic dept° Marilyn - The swimming coach. Betty - The swimming coach. Jack F. - Art Adamson. Betty - Yeah was on the last house on the right next to the jazzercise now. And in between there we had Mr. & Mrs. . 23 Marilyn - Adam. Betty - Adam, thank your Don Adam grew up there I know him and we helped him get started. He startedSa Ialelbusiness and we were one of the first to sign up. kind of responsible for Adam success. Marilyn - We used to do his printing for him. Betty - Did you? Jack F. - on the Christmas Cards? Marilyn - I did after he got married. Betty - And Don wasn't it, Don lived next to Longley's. Jack - I don't remember. Betty - Prof Don. Jack - Prof Don lived up way up. Marilyn - Landiss next to Longly wasn't he? Betty - Landiss? Marilyn - Landiss. Betty - No, No. Jack F. - No, it wasn't Landiss, it was the other physical education man. Marilyn - Tishler. Betty - Tishler. Betty - Tishler, yes and then at the corner of him I think it was a business man that lived on the corner of. Jack F. - Maryem $etty - Maryem and Grove in that white house on the corner. And the on the other side was a man from the college who had some girls and they moved up on the hill. In that kind of a brick type house on the corner there. Marilyn, do you remember them? They were there when we were there. I think he with, I Canayoutrememberrhissname? They also m 0 Marilyn - off hand, no. 24 Betty - Seems like it's a very short street, three short blocks you could walk to the railroad station now when you want to take the train which is what we did when we took a train. Marilyn - Covey. Jack - Covey. c - o - v - e - Y. Betty - Covey, Covey that's right among the white house. on the other corner from Covey was another fella from college. It was made up of mostly college people when we moved there. And now it is made up of college students, we are having a terrible time. Jack D. - John Kircana. Betty - Was that it? Jack D. - I thougYt he lived on Grove St. didn't he? Betty - No, that's not who I'm thinking about. Marilyn - He was in that area. Jack D. - He was in the area up there. lived in that area up there also. Lisa - Yes Ed & Ally Garner. Betty - Who? Jack - Who? of course Ed Garner Lisa - Ed & Ally Garner, she was a Scoates. Betty - Yeah they lived there. Jack - Did they live there? Betty - They lived there for a while in the second next to. . . Jack - They lived in that area I don't know if they were on the door. Betty - I think they lived next, what were the people's names on the corner they are? Jack - Well, it was next to. . . Marilyn - He said Royder. 25 Betty - Yes, Royder in the white house and then it got to be a red house. Then Adam, I just remember Royder but I don't remember. And it was a real quiet neighborhood - it was a delightful place to live, but. . . Jack D. - Was. . . Betty - To show you how country like it was, when my children moved in they were riding bicycles and there are some little tiny houses built on back of who's house was that? Jack D. - Dr. Hunts. Betty - Hunt's the back of Hunt's those little tiny cottages. They're still there and my children thought that was a street see and they were riding in the neighborhood and so they went across they took Mr. Colson's driveway to the back and there was no fence there and then they walked down there and Mr. Colson had a fit "You tell those kids to stay out of my yard" and I said I'm sorry but I think they thought it was a street because those little green houses there and I'll "Well it's not they went through my yard" I said all right - I will speak to them about it, but that's how rural it was, I mean, there was no, there were no fences anywhere, you could go around different yards. Jack D. - He must have been a character - Colson must have been a character because I remember Oscar saying that his kids, he set up a basketball stand in his side yard and he said Mr. Colson came over there and just raised holy Cain with them and everything because he had about 3 or 4 boys and 1 girl and they were playing basketball in there and Mr. Colson was upset because they made a little noise. Betty - Too much noise. Jack D. - He told Colson he say's well I tell you what you just go peddle your papers, but you're on my property now and my kids will do what they want to do on my property" and Colson left and was real upset. Betty - He objected too. Jack D. - I'm glad we didn't have any neighbors. Betty - We didn't. Jack D. - We didn't have any neighbors. Betty - It was a little lonely when you weren't here. Lisa - When you were here, Marilyn & Jack, where did you kol live? Lisa - In the family home? Marilyn - We remodeled it and lived there. Lisa - Until 1 77? Marilyn - And then we bought in Quail Run Estates. Jack F. - Moved out to Quail Run in 1977. Lisa - Back to Southside discussion, how long was it before you had neighbors at the old home place? Jack F. - After World War II they began to build a quite a bit out there. Marilyn - I guess Burgess. Jack F. - Dr. Luther Jones Marilyn - Russell or Sparks, Mr. Sparks was in on a lot of developing. Jack F. - Well Don Dale built a couple of places in there too. E Lisa - Did your father build that house. Marilyn - Yes in I think about 1919 and the store I imagine - didn't you say about 1914? Jack F. - I've gop 1917 in my mind. Betty - Marilyn do you all have a historical marker on that house? Do you still own it. Marilyn - No, I think the City of College Station school system has bought that, and llthink think the they're city has going finalput a park there. Well, anyway, bought that. The house is gone. Jack F. - Well the young man that bought the property passed away and the thing got tied up in a big bank estate deal and all of that, I think it has finally all been settled. Marilyn - But I think the City of College Station has it now. Jack F. - I think they've got that Luther corner there. Lisa - Do you have a historical marker, Betty, on your 4 0 house? 27 Betty - No, it's not that old I don't think - it was build in 1 50. That wouldn't give it a historical marker would it? Almost, but just I think a year too late or something. An interesting thing happened, - Do ya'll remember Dave Garroway's morning show when it first started? Well one day they featured the new College Station High School, that was when they built that new thing up on Stilts, I call it Stilts. Do you remember where the old school? Marilyn - Yes Betty - Well they featured that as being very good architecture for a very minimum price and he had it on a stand and I said to Jack "Let's take a ride up to that place I think there's a college or something up there and see what that building looks like in real life." So we packed a lunch and after church we took the kids and drove up here, and we had lunch on the A &M campus in back of the thing and were parked right next to the campus, and they climbed their first tree and it's still standing. It's the first tree in the median on George Bush Drive now where they learned to climb a tree and we drove around. Wellborn road was just a little lane and all the. . . Jack D. - Highway 6 was just a little lane. Betty - And anyway. We drove kind of through South Side and I said you know this would be a nice place to live. Raise kids here - I said it's nice. Nice little houses. The house behind us was for sale and we stopped to find out the price of houses in this area, and it just, just a real nice place, then we went back home and after a while, he took this ad for a person. You know for the Eagle. And I said why don't you answer that. That's that place that's so nice - we were up there once. So he did and he got the job, and here we're settled in the same area we were looking for houses way back there. Jack F. - We moved back here in 1 48 after getting out of the service. But another thing interesting about that end of town down there is the corner property down there. Lisa - Yes - tell us about that. Jack F. - This young lady here could tell you a lot about that, but my wife's dad, sold those lots to those people. They all traded with them there at the store, had credit at the store, you sold them a lot, a dollar a week am I right? Ethel - I'm not really that familiar with. Jack F. - OK, well that's. . . Ethel - But I know that's where we got the property. 28 Jack F. - Sold it to her daddy. Ethel - Right on Holleman drive. Lisa - OK, different family names, can you remember some family? Ethel- One of the people that would know a lot about that in that area is Ora Walker, who is, her mother was Odessa and they lived in this area. Fairview that was the black church there - Saint Matthew's Baptist Church and you may know Martha Moore and her husband Henry Moore and then also there was a lady - Lizzy Wallace did you know her? Jack- Eddie Chew. Marilyn - Eddie Chew and Ora Walker. Jack - Ora Walker. Marilyn - Eva is still living. Ethel - Yes she is, right on the Wellborn road - I saw here yesterday. Lonnie Thompson - Did you know Lonnie Thompson? Did you know Lonnie Thompson? Lonnie. Now that was my uncle. Marilyn - We knew all of those people. Jack F. - Peterso�. Ethel - Yes, yes. Marilyn - I played with the children, I played with the children. They'd come up - I had a playhouse. Ethel - He lived in Bryan. Earl. Earl Ockeltree. Marilyn - Earl. Earl - he lived in Bryan. Lisa - That was Ethel Delley who's doing our video for us. Let me make sure to identify who you were. Ethel Steen Delley. Correct? Ok great. Well can you remember anything else about that? OK now did you have any brothers or sisters? Marilyn - I have a brother & a sister and they're both still living. He's retired military. He and his wife live in San Antonio. And my sister is still living. She's ill now. But she's living in San Antonio. In fact, this is my brother that is on here. (Picture of Grocery Store.) Lisa - OK 29 Marilyn - And of course my sister isn't on here - she was older. Lisa - So in the picture, are those your parents and you and your brother? Marilyn - Right. Lisa - OK. Marilyn - I figured this must have been about 1 25. 1925. Lisa - And the automobile - was that your family's automobile there? Marilyn - Yes. Jack D. - Did you have any brother or sisters, Jack? Jack F. - No. Our grandson is the last of the family. He just recently married. So hopefully we'll make it. We had one son. He's retired navy. A year ago today he retired from the navy. Twenty -nine years. Lisa - Jack, when you wanted to go out to eat someplace or go somewhere for entertainment maybe - where did you go? Betty- You know everybody in the restaurant when you went out. You didn't go very often but you knew everybody that was there. Jack F. - Go into town to New York Cafe and eat enchiladas. Marilyn - I don't ever remember going anywhere to eat out. No most people ate at home. Lisa - When you say go into town, where are you talking about? Jack F. - Bryan. In Bryan, downtown. Lisa - How far apart was Bryan and College Station at that time? Betty - 6 miles. It was about 6 miles. Lisa - So it took you about how long to get there? Jack F. - Depends on whether you caught a ride or walked. She used to ride the trolley. Didn't you ride the old trolley? Marilyn - No. 30 Jack F. - They had stopped that. Marilyn - I had never. . . Jack F. - You didn't? OK. Marilyn - Someone always chauffeured me. Jack F. - That's something we ought to find out about is the trolley. Lisa - Yes. Jack D. - I don't remember that. Betty - Dr. Marsh could tell you about the trolley. He used to ride the trolley. His father was the medical man over at A &M. Little Dr. Marsh. Jack F. - I came here in' 35. The trolley. . . Lisa - And it went between College Station and Bryan. Marilyn - I don't even know where you got on it at College Station. Jack F. - At the Northgate. Betty - I think they covered the trolley a lot in the Northgate section. Jack F. - They did, right. Lisa - OK OK. Jack D. - I've heard a lot of stories about it and. Betty - I don't think I ever rode it. When they were going to widen the old Jersey Street Jack and I nearly cried. So we went and took some picture of the old college and the houses for the graduate students that were south - remember - across from the shopping area - we took a couple of shots of them. Those are project houses. Jack F. - The old project houses. That was a figment of Dr. Dan Russell. He was a rural sociology professor. And during the depression they built those houses there for students and various counties sponsored them. The parents sent (they were mostly all rural) and they sent the food in and they served in a common mess from those various houses there and the students lived there much cheaper than if they C lived in the dormitory which cost you about twenty dollars a month I think. 31 Lisa- Were they married student housing to begin with? Betty - No, no, no, Jack F. - No, them were very few married students. Betty - No, these were just free and off of the farm, they were just young ki0s, coming to A &M. And they had a house mother and she di& all the cooking and. . . Marilyn - I think there were some of them were grouped according to location. Betty - Counties. Jack F. - County, they were county project houses. What they actually started opt as being county project houses, and farm people from these counties that wanted to send their boys to A &M (of course there weren't any girls then) and they provide the rations, and I'd say probably better than fifty, sixty percent of the students that went to A &M at that time worked their way through. I know both of my roommates did. I was fortunate, my dad sent me through, but both my roommates 'orked their way through. One was a janitor, the other was a mess hall waiter. Betty- When we came here we were impressed with the fact that everything was on campus, you know, for the boys and you know where we used to go and eat, at Plantation Oaks in that very fancy restaurant. What was it called? Do you remember? Del Maros, that was the place to go if you wanted to celebrate. 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Date Remarks: ql" City of College Station Memory Lanes Oral History Project Oral History Stage Sheet Memory Lane. �i Name Uxell-I "I&J Interview Place Special sources of informs Date tape received in offic4 Original Photographs Yes Describe Photos Interview No. Interview date 3 Interview length / �S _ # of tapes marked / Date ✓ # of photos �_ Date Recd Interview Agreement and tape Given to interviewee of Date Signed 3 Transcription: First typing completed First audit check by Yes ✓ No If yes, see remarks below. Yes No O Pages Date / S� �- 2� -�_ Pages Date (na e Sent to interviewee on \� G',-,\ \ U l� Received from interviewee on l� 151 Copy editing and second audit check by Pages Date (name) Final copies: Typed by -- 4 2 P Pages Proofread by. 1) ?" 4 Pages Date _ Date m 2) Pages Date Photos out for reproduction: Where to: Date: Original photos returned to: Date: Indexed by: Date Sent to bindery by Date Received from bindery Date Deposited in archives by: Date Remarks: City of College Station Memory Lanes Oral History Project This is ki .5cf em . Today is Mari] (month) (day) (year) I'm interviewing for the time Ladd-1 (Mr., rs., Miss, Ms., Dr., Etc.) This interview is taking place in Rve ' n' 1 e -eo eey?� The a1 e e S t'o 4 onP-e( - ,anP e- at 1300 George Bush Dr. -en fer g College Station, Texas. This interview is sponsored by the Historic Preservation Committee and the Conference Center Advisory Committee of the City of College Station, Texas. It is part of the Memory Lane Oral History Project. s � Have each person introduce themselves so their voice is identifiable on the tape recorder. The City of College Station, Texas Memory Lanes Oral History Project INTERVIEW AGREEMENT The purpose of The Historic Preservation Committee is to gather and preserve historical documents by means of the tape - recorded interview. Tape recordings and transcripts resulting from such interviews become part of the archives of The City of College Station Historic Preservation Committee and Conference Center Advisory Committee to be used for whatever purposes may be determined. I have read the above and voluntaril offer my portion of the interviews with a In view of the scholarly value of this research material, I hereby assign rights, title, and interest pertaining to it to The City of College Station Historic Preservation Committee and Conference Center Advisory Committee. Interviewer (signature) Date �2 � / � S Z 1 q gu r n s Interviewer (Please Print) (Name of Interviewee) HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE City of College Station, Texas 77840 ORAL HISTORY DATA SHEET I hereby give and grant to the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, City of College Station, Texas, for whatever purposes may be determined, the tape recordings, transcriptions, and contents of this oral history interview. Also, permission is hereby given for any duplications of original photos, documents, maps, etc. useful to the history project to be returned unharmed. Interviewee releases, relinquishes and discharges CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from all claims, demands, and causes of action of every kind and character, including the cost of defense thereof, for any injury to, including the cost of defense thereof for any injury to, including death of, any person, whether that person be a third person, Interviewee, or an employee of either of the parties hereto, and any loss of or damage to property, whether the same be that either of the parties hereto or of third parties, caused by or alleged to be caused by, arising out of, or in connection with Interviewee provision of historical information, whether or not said claims, demands and causes of action in whole or in part are covered by insua�e. Inte viewee (Ple se pr'nt) LG L f��t Siq ature of I rvi wee 7 15G ,hut'v�S Name /� 1 4 C - tl e, (o Ae G e :5 1 1f o Address /,y/, -,3 Telephone Date of Birth Place of Birth 1 a cue 1 h11 Interviewer (Please Print) 'gn ture of Interviewer T_evt ,ev,fpr - �,on feVeiJC'_C Place of Interview & ler INTERVIEW STATUS: Completed In progress List of photos, documents, maps, etc. Interviewee agrees to and shall indemnify and hold harmless CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from and against any and all claims, losses, damages, causes of action, suits and liability of every kind, attorney's fees, for injury to or death of any person, or for damage to any property, arising out of or in connection with the use of the items and information referenced aboved by CITY, its agents, representatives, assigns, invitees, and participants under this grant. Such indemnity shall apply where the claims, losses damages, causes of action, suits or liability arise in whole or in part from the negligence of city. Date Initia HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE City of College Station, Texas 77840 ORAL HISTORY DATA SHEET I hereby give and grant to the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, City of College Station, Texas, for whatever purposes may be determined, the tape recordings, transcriptions, and contents of this oral history interview. Also, permission is hereby given for any duplications of original photos, documents, maps, etc. useful to the history project to be returned unharmed. Interviewee releases, relinquishes and discharges CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from all claims, demands, and causes of action of every kind and character, including the cost of defense thereof, for any injury to, including the cost of defense thereof for any injury to, including death of, any person, whether that person be a third person, Interviewee, or an employee of either of the parties hereto, and any loss of or damage to property, whether the same be that either of the parties hereto or of third parties, caused by or alleged to be caused by, arising out of, or in connection with Interviewee provision of historical information, whether or not said claims, demands and causes of action in whole or in part are covered by insurance. Interviewe (Please print) signature of Interviewee Name 36 Cry Ve- �o �� 2g e S�af Addres ��� -�3�� Telephone Date of Birth 7 - 4 D / Place of Birth o5 i'o h . M Q 5 5 z i s a �r h S Interviewer (Please Print) siirfiaiure of Interviewer Ail lCere ee Place of Interview INTERVIEW STATUS: Completed In progress List of photos, documents, maps, etc. Interviewee agrees to and shall indemnify and hold harmless CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from and against any and all claims, losses, damages, causes of action, suits and liability of every kind, attorney's fees, for injury to or death of any person, or for damage to any property, arising out of or in connection with the use of the items and information referenced aboved by CITY, its agents, representatives, assigns, invitees, and participants under this grant. Such indemnity shall apply where the claims, losses damages, causes of action, suits or liability arise in whole or in part from the negligence of city. Date Initial HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE City of College Station, Texas 77840 ORAL HISTORY DATA SHEET I hereby give and grant to the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, City of College Station, Texas, for whatever purposes may be determined, the tape recordings, transcriptions, and contents of this oral history interview. Also, permission is hereby given for any duplications of original photos, documents, maps, etc. useful to the history project to be returned unharmed. Interviewee releases, relinquishes and discharges CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from all claims, demands, and causes of action of every kind and character, including the cost of defense thereof, for any injury to, including the cost of defense thereof for any injury to, including death of, any person, whether that person be a third person, Interviewee, or an employee of either of the parties hereto, and any loss of or damage to property, whether the same be that either of the parties hereto or of third parties, caused by or alleged to be caused by, arising out of, or in connection with Interviewee provision of historical information, whether or not said claims, demands and causes of action in whole or in part are covered by insurance. _ /ZI f} le t:L YN � UG 4 T�= Il�terviewee (Please print) tuf a of `fn Address J Telephone Date of Birth 2 Place of Birth Interviewer (Please Print) S n ure of Interviewer Name f V 711F Te h �e Place of Interview List etc. INTERVIEW STATUS: Completed In progress Interviewee agrees to aifd shall indemnify and hold harmless CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from and against any and all claims, losses, damages, causes of action, suits and liability of every kind, attorney's fees, for injury to or death of any person, or for damage to any property, arising out of or in connection with the use of the items and information referenced aboved by CITY, its agents, representatives, assigns, invitees, and participants under this grant. Such indemnity shall apply where the claims, losses damages, causes of action, suits or liability arise in whole or in part from the negligence of city. Date Initial HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE City of College Station, Texas 77840 ORAL HISTORY DATA SHEET I hereby give and grant to the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, City of College Station, Texas, for whatever purposes may be determined, the tape recordings, transcriptions, and contents of this oral history interview. Also, permission is hereby given for any duplications of original photos, documents, maps, etc. useful to the history project to be returned unharmed. Interviewee releases, relinquishes and discharges CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from all claims, demands, and causes of action of every kind and character, including the cost of defense thereof, for any injury to, including the cost of defense thereof for any injury to, including death of, any person, whether that person be a third person, Interviewee, or an employee of either of the parties hereto, and any loss of or damage to property, whether the same be that either of the parties hereto or of third parties, caused by or alleged to be caused by, arising out of, or in connection with Interviewee provision of historical information, whether or not said claims, demands and causes of action in whole or in part are covered by insurance. Interviewee (Please print) SiCgnature of Int;6rviewee Name Address Telephone Date of Birth 1164 /5 �% /7 Place of Birth llbustow -; �, 5 Interviewer (Please Print) Sign ure of Interviewer Place of Interview INTERVIEW STATUS: Completed In progress Interviewee agrees to and shall indemnify and hold harmless CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from and against any and all claims, losses, damages, causes of action, suits and liability of every kind, attorney's fees, for injury to or death of any person, or for damage to any property, arising out of or in connection with the use of the items and information referenced aboved by CITY, its agents, representatives, assigns, invitees, and participants under this grant. Such indemnity shall apply where the claims, losses damages, causes of action, suits or liability arise in whole or in part from the negligence of city. 5- � 95 Date � O � j, Initial