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HomeMy WebLinkAboutEastgate Panel 4Group 4: Agnus Baker Dr. O.C, Cooper Helen Price Penny Cooper Interview Group: Dr. O. C. Cooper Penny Cooper Helen Price Agnes Baker Moderator: Ellen Horner Transcriptionist: Mary Tucker Video Camcorder Operator: Charlie Horner East Gate Oral History Memory Lane September 27, 1995 Ellen Horner - East Ga.e historical project for the City of College Station and I'm Ellen Horner your moderator for today. We have Mary Tucker who is the transcriptionist and Charlie Horner who is working the camcorder. Agnes I'd like to start with you and have you introduce yourself and tell us how long you have been here. Agnes Baker - I'm Agnes Baker. I've lived here 37 years. Penny Cooper - I'm Penny Cooper and I have live here 43 years. We moved here in 1952. O. C. Cooper - I'm O. C. Cooper and we have lived here since 1952. I came here with the Bryan Air Force Base as a medical doctor and since that time have enjoyed living in the community. Helen Price - College Hill School, and enjoyed living here. Ellen Horner - O.K. Miry would you like to play that over or should we just go ahead. Mary Tucker - Let me try it one more time and we will begin at that point. Ellen Horner - We will ;dart with things that you have remembered from the early times when you came here. Who would like to go first. Agnes. Agnes Baker - OK. I'll o first. When we moved here we lived in a family neighborhood and children were playing everywhere. And it was fun being out in the yard, working in the yards, maybe talking over the fence, with your neighbors. While your children were playing, was really a joy. And now it seems like everything around us is rental property with A &M students living there and it is no family living there anymore. It's not enjoyable anymore. Ellen Horner - No fun anymore. OK Helen. Helen Price - We still have fun in our neighborhood. When we first moved in 50 most of the houses on our end of the street were not even there. Ellen Horner - OK will you tell us what. Helen Price - OK the Thornton house was there, the Moses house was there. The Perry house, not Perry, the Thomas house was there. Ellen Horner - Your talking about Kyle Street Helen Price - No Walton O. C. Cooper - Walton Ellen Horner - Walton right. O.K. Helen Price - 1200 block of Walton. Ellen Horner - OK Penny Cooper - The one where David is, was there. 1103 Walton -it was the first house built in that block. Helen Price - That's right. Who's house was that. Penny Cooper - Major Brown built it in 1938. Betty Fleck owned it. Helen Price - Fleck that's the house. Penny Cooper - Owned it part of the time. She was telling me the history of it. And I think Major, he was with the military on campus and he lived there until • 1945. And then the Fleck's bought it and lived there and of course have lived there. That is 1103 Walton next door to us, that's where David lives. Ellen Horner - OK. Dr. Cooper. O. C. Cooper - Well we came here in 1952 with the Air Force, and I was assigned to taking care of the civilian population, in the OB group in particular. We had to deliver our patients at St. Joseph and Bryan Hospital at the time, there was no military facility at the air base for deliveries. I did this for almost 9 months, maybe a year, and then I went to San Antonio for three months and came back to be the flicht surgeon for the air base for the last part of my career at the air base. A lot of changes took place during that time. When we first came to town, we lived in a house on 1107 Walton that was a rental house. We only stayed there for a very short period of time. And then we bought a house at 513 Kyle that was owned by a Dr. Johnson that who was in the horticultural department at the University. And one of the famous trees in the back yard at that time was a Cork Oak tree that Dr. Johnson had transplanted and brought back, I think, from South America. This tree has since died, but it lived for many years during the time we lived there and even after the time when my father also occupied that house. So it was a very interesting area because, we knew just about everybody that lived around us. And there were very few people that were moving in and out, so we knew most of the people. Most of them were either employees of the University or Texas A &M College it was at that time, so we got to know everybody. (Inaudible) Agnes Baker - I was pretty busy with four children. I take them back and forth to the swimming pool or we would go play little league every night which we would look forward to. It was quite exciting, a family affair not just us but neighbors and friends across the town and everything it was a lot of fun and we looked forward to that. Ellen Horner - OK where was the swimming pool located. Agnes Baker - On the campus, Adams swimming pool is where my children went. Helen Price - Inside, Inside Agnes Baker - And it was kind of nice when the children got old enough. They would ride their bikes there, and I didn't have to go and get them and take them each time, it was really nice. You could buy a family ticket and everybody could get in on the same ticket. The neighborhood with the children, get with their friends and the area behind where the College Hills school is. Penny Cooper - Clay Mountain Agnes Baker - Clay Hil Penny Cooper - Clay ill Agnes Baker - Clay Hil , go to Clay Hill and spend time there and they even talk about it today. So, I'd say I was kept pretty busy staying home and taking care them. Ellen Horner - OK. Penny what do you remember about Clay Hill. That is the first time I've ever heart' about that. Helen Price - Goodness no. Ellen Horner - I'm a new corner. Penny Cooper - That was the play area. Agnes Baker - That was the play area. Penny Cooper - If you didn't know where your children were, they were probably out there playing with ol.her children. But College Hills was such a nice place where they could ride their bikes all over, and it was really a safe time. Where they could enjoy being out and being free. And now you can't do that. Ellen Horner - How did Clay Hill get it's name. Penny Cooper - I can't I'm not sure. Agnes Baker - Kids I think. 0. C. Cooper - Where there were a lot of gullies, that were washed out and most of the area, in that area is all clay anyway, so the gullies just washed into a clay ridge. And the kids had a lot of fun playing down there. And you really didn't have any fear of fie children being down in that area, because we felt it was a relatively safe aria. Except maybe for just the accidents that they would cause for themselves Which you didn't fear for their lives in anyway, that we fear now with our children going different places in the community. I think that's really something that's important we need to look at. As to how to make our areas safe again. Like it was at one time. • Helen Price - At one time Clay Hill. Reverend Smith fenced it, and put It has been a fun place and our children still talk about Clay Hill. Agnes Baker - My kids talk about it today. Penny Cooper - I know it. We tried to find it one time before they discovered it and made a big deal out of it(Richard Carter's grave). Ellen Horner - That's something else I was going to ask you about. Do you, is, are there any remnants of that cemetery left today? Penny Cooper - Well they made a nice park near the bi -pass Ellen Horner - Are have they built on it? Helen Price - Have you been out there? Ellen Horner - No. 0. C. Cooper - I think the City of College Station has preserved it and has made a kind of memorial now to it. So it is preserved to the extent that it allows a lot of the landmarks that are actually marked. And I think that the old well is probably one of the sites that's best preserved as to where their house was I don't know • for sure that has ever been ideally located. But I know that our children did play down there at times. That was kind of the back part of Clay Hill. And from there back toward Walton Drive was a area where they played in a lot. And we had no real fear for them, as far as safety except for them falling and hurting themselves, we didn't worry about the children being there. Ellen Horner - You dide get any business from it. O. C. Cooper - No, I don't remember ever having taken care of a child that was injured down in that are . Because the slopes for the gullies were kind of, they were shallow for one th ng, but they were slanted, and I don't think the children had any problem except for getting muddy and dirty. That was the biggest that we worried about, I guess. Getting their clothes cleaned after they came back home. Helen Price - Didn't onp of the Jones boys have an eye put out down there though. With a BB gun Agnes Baker - He had an eye put out, but I don't know if it was there or not. Penny Cooper - I think it was somewhere down there. O. C. Cooper - Well, of course I didn't take into, the BB guns and things like that. Because, but as far as safety from just playing in the area I think it was fairly safe. Helen Price - Oh it was. O. C. Cooper - We didn't worry about anybody taking your children off. Or harassing them, or doing anything to them after they were down in that area. Agnes Baker - And when the children got old enough on Halloween night they could get on their bikes or walk and just go everywhere. They would get their friends and they would go way out in the Carter's area, and go Trick or Treat, for Halloween. And they never had any problems, and we weren't worried about them Ellen Horner - Today we don't think anything at all about taking excursions to Austin, or Houston, or Dallas Fort Worth area. In the early days when you came here did you take trips or excursions anywhere? Agnes Baker - We just went out in the country to the farm. Where the kids enjoyed played out there. We went to visit families in the Hill country. Penny Cooper - The school took a trip to Houston, to the circus. Agnes Baker - Shrine Circus. Ellen Horner - Well as a family? Penny Cooper - As a family. We always, we always were taking trips somewhere. 0. C. Cooper - We wert on almost all the basketball games, and football games, and usually had a load of kids with us every time we went. And you really felt kind of good because a lot of other families went with you. And you had a good time at the football games. As well as watching the game you had a good time just visiting with the neighbors and people in the community. Penny Cooper - And band trips and choir trips. 0. C. Cooper - A big time just filling up the bleachers at the old football field. Helen Price - And you didn't do it. 0. C. Cooper - Football field Ellen Horner - Tiger Field Helen Price - I rode by :here a while ago. Penny Cooper - You were team physician from the time you came for the Junior Varsity team on Thursday nights, and the Varsity team on Friday nights. 0. C. Cooper - Yeah, I was team physician along with Dr. T. 0. Walton for many years, about 20 something years. So, I got to know the kids pretty well. And I feel in some way may have had some influence on some of them going into medicine as far as choosing as a career, and I felt good about that. There were not the injuries I think we see right now as far as injuries to knees and joints. They felt relatively safe in the type of football they played. I think today it is a knock -down drag -out Walton Dr. and Kyle also had a real development in that the streets were somewhat paved early on when we were living on Kyle Street. BSA then they resurfaced and redid the streets on both Walton and Kyle and during that period of time if it rained it was a real mess because you couldn't get into your house. You had to park usually behind your house on the next street and walk around or walk through the alleyways to come back to your house. And that was a real transition period I think as far as development of the street system in the community. Penny Cooper - What they did though, they started on Kyle at Texas and then they stopped about a 1/2 block down and decided to go around the other way, and start on Walton. So here we were in the middle of Kyle and we had to wait until they came all the way around from Walton. So it took a long time. Helen Price - OK. Weren't there trees down Walton, at one time? Agnes Baker - Not that I remember. Helen Price - In the middle of the street? Penny Cooper - I don't know. O. C. Cooper - I don't remember many trees, but I sure remember a lot of horned toads. The horned toads were something that were very numerous in the area in College Hills. The children would catch them during the summer time, and it wasn't any problem at all to see them in your back yard. And at this time I don't think you can find a horned toad of any kind in that area. I haven't see one in years. So, something has actually either happened to that particular species of animal or frog whatever you want to call it, that actually has almost eradicated it, if not completely, in the College Hills area. Helen Price - Fire ants probably took over. • O. C. Cooper - Well, I really don't think it was fire ants, because you saw them begin to disappear before the fire ants were really a big problem in the area. Penny Cooper - Well, they use to have coral snakes back behind there, when we first came here. And that was kind of a scary thing when your children were playing around in that area. Ellen Horner - Were there any rattle snakes around? Helen Price - Copperheads. Ellen Horner - Copperheads. Helen Price - I remember seeing copperheads. Because, see that was kind of wild and Clay Hills was. Penny Cooper - There was no development behind Munson St. Helen Price - Yea so, ii was a good place for snakes. O. C. Cooper - We used to teach the children that when they found a colored snake to always remember "red and yellow kill a fellow, red and back venom lack." And, so the children, when they occasionally found a colored snake, they sometime would find a nonpoisonous snake. But they knew the color bands on a coral snake to know which ones to stay away from. And I don't remember any child ever getting bitten by either coral snake or a rattle snake in the area. There were some snake bites, I think, but they probably were not severe. But copperheads were not n unusual thing to find in that area. I think because of the development that h uses and streets and everything that were put in, I think that may have had something to do with all these species of animals and snakes and things like that in the area. Penny Cooper - This is changing the subject, but before I forget it. The kids use to be so scared of Mr. Cominik. Agnes Baker - Oh yes. • Penny Cooper - He did not want them on his land at all, and they just swore he had a shotgun, and of course that made them get over there that much more. Helen Price - Those little boys loved that. Penny Cooper - As close as they could, you know, to get on his property. Ellen Horner - Where did Mr. Dominik live? Penny Cooper - He lived back on land behind the corner of Kyle and Walton - where Dominik is now. Helen Price - On Domir}ik. Penny Cooper - Yea Helen Price - On Domirik Penny Cooper - Right where Dominik Dr. is now, behind Kyle Helen Price - Right. Penny Cooper - Probably where the, the sorority houses are now. Helen Price - Along in there. Penny Cooper - Along in there somewhere. Ellen Horner - OK. In the early 70s there was a log cabin on Dominik. Do you know any of the history of that log cabin? It was. When we first came here, which was in early 70s, it was in pretty much disre, disrepair, it was a double log cabin. And there are duplexes there now. O. C. Cooper - That wa the Dominik homestead, and at that time I think some of their parents had lived there. But they had built another house. And they were living in that during the early time that we lived on Kyle. And like Penny said, our children were afraid to cross this fence to go onto Dominik property, but there was a tank on that area right by the Dominik house where the children loved to go to try to fish and throw rocks in it and every thing else, I guess. But they always had some fear that they were going to get harmed in some way by going onto the Dominik property. I think. Agnes Baker - We remember. O. C. Cooper - I think that was kind of false really. Agnes Baker - There were the good Dominik's and the bad Dominik's. Penny Cooper - Yes. Agnes Baker - Don't yc u remember. Ellen Horner - That's right. Helen Price - That's right. There were two families. Agnes Baker - And anc'ther thing my kids enjoyed doing, and they got together with their friends and go down to Black's Pharmacy, to the confectioner there and go get them some ice cream sit there and visit and talk. Get the ice cream and coke or what ever they wanted, coke floats. Penny Cooper - Well didn't they have booths? Agnes Baker - Yes. Penny Cooper - I thought they did, in fact Joy was saying last night that Russell Hanna has one of the booths. Agnes Baker - Oh really. Penny Cooper - From Black's Pharmacy. Helen Price - I think that's right. Ellen Horner - Where was Black's Pharmacy? Agnes Baker - Right where Lincoln Street and Texas intersects. It was right on that corner, is where it eras. Penny Cooper - Is it a bicycle shop now? Agnes Baker - No its a flower shop. Penny Cooper - Flower shop. O. C. Cooper - I think they also sell some other products like in -line roller blades and things like that now you can rent them there. This little building, it's a small building, but really children going down to Black's Pharmacy was a place we didn't have any trouble with them going. Mr. Black was very protective, I think, of the children and enjoyed them coming into his store. And as far as I am concerned he was one 13f the great pharmacists that ever participated in the serving of my practice, as far as prescriptions is concerned. But I think he enjoyed children. And we didn't have any problem with them going down to that particular area. Right n )w I think we would have a great deal of fear of sending any of our grandchildren down to that area of Texas Ave. Penny Cooper - Texas Ave. O. C. Cooper - of Texas Ave. and in that area. Penny Cooper - Lincoln. Helen Price - You remember Mr. Jones? O. C. Cooper - Yea, Mr Jones also took over that pharmacy after Mr. Black moved to Ridgecrest Pharmacy. And Mr. Jones had a good pharmacy there. And again, as far as filling people's prescriptions and making the cost of drugs as low as he possibly could, I think he did that as much as anybody else in this community. Helen Price - And he is 90 something years old. O. C. Cooper - I noticed he's here. Penny Cooper - He's here today. Helen Price - Is he? O. C. Cooper - I noticed Mr. Jones is here at this meeting today. Helen Price - Oh great. Ellen Horner - Let's go to our weekly, or monthly shopping. Where did you, where did you do your shopping? Penny Cooper - We had to go to Bryan. Helen Price - There was a store on the corner of Walton. • Agnes Baker - Mais's market was on the corner of University and Texas, Mais's Grocery Store was there. Penny Cooper - Where University Street is right now, right in the middle of the street, was a grocery store. At Texas Ave., University Dr. did not go East -there was no street except West to TAMU. O. C. Cooper - One morning I started to the hospital to make rounds and for some reason I needed to use the telephone. So, I thought maybe Mais's Grocery was opened sc I stopped and went in. The door was opened and I went in, and there was nobody in the store. And I was fearful that something had happened Mr. Mais. So, I hollered to see if anybody was in the store and got no reply. And then I picked up the telephone and called Mr. Mais's number at home. Mr. Mais answered the phone, and they had forgotten to lock up the store the night before. And there was absolutely nothing missing in that store when he came down to check on it the next morning. That was on the corner of Texas Ave. and what is University Dr. right now. Ellen Horner - How do you spell Mr. Mais last name? Helen Price - Was it M a i z? O. C. Cooper - I would've said it was M a y s, I don't know. Agnes Baker - I don't know I thought it was M a i s. Helen Price - M a i something. Ellen Horner - I though: they spelled it M a i z. O. C. Cooper - I never had to spell it before. Agnes Baker - The kid- would always go through the Reader's Digest and get all the coupons out and take them up to Mr. Mais and he would reimburse them with money. Penny Cooper - Oh really. Agnes Baker - Oh yea. Helen Price - I didn't know that. Then there was a grocery store down on the corner. Agnes Baker - Where was that? Helen Price - At Walton. Penny Cooper - Oh really. Helen Price - Uh huh, but it didn't stay there very long. Ellen Horner - That must have been before my time. Agnes Baker - Safeway. I think it was a Safeway store. And Orr's. Penny Cooper - We went to Orr's. Helen Price - Orr's was the big one. Agnes Baker - Orr's in Bryan. Helen Price - That was where we went. O. C. Cooper - Most of the shopping, I think, was done in Bryan as far as clothing and groceries. There were still some stores at Northgate. But they were primarily restaurants and bookstores, and things that were primarily centered toward the students. However there was a drug store at one time at Northgate. Helen Price - Ellison's. O. C. Cooper - Well even before Ellison's, it was a drug store. Some of the Walton's family relatives had owned a drug store before that time. And, I think Mr. Ellison then also bol.ight the drug store from them, and kept it as a drug store for quite some time before it was converted to Loupot's Bookstore. Helen Price - There used to be a little 5 and dime sorta in that area. Agnes Baker - I miss those 5 and dime stores. Helen Price - So we didn't have to go all the way to Bryan to the 5 and dime. Ellen Horner - Dr. Cooper what was the motivating factor for your settling in this area and opening your practice? c O. C. Cooper - Well, I had finished medical school on a scholarship from Kentucky and had to To to a rural area to practice. So we had gone to Woodcliffe, Kentucky to practice. And we had stayed there for about 5 years. During that time, of course, when the Korean War started, I was called back into the service. And endeci up as as one of the medical personnel at the Bryan Air Force Base. And then, when I got to be flight surgeon at the base, and had fulfilled my obligation fur the military, we decided that there was just not any better place we could have looked at to stay, than right here. The children were in school, we felt like they had good schools and good churches and those two things probably really predominated in us choosing this particular area as a place to stay. The chilc ren were already settled and we didn't want to move them again. I looked at a lot of cities, during the time before I really made that decision, Victoria, Tyler, Austin and several other places around us. But none of them showed me anything better that Bryan /College Station. Agnes Baker - It was an excellent place to rear children. They had everything here that a big town would have. Ellen Horner - Where was your office located? O. C. Cooper - Well, my first office was down on 28th street across from the old St. Joseph Hospital. And, of course that's where I practiced with Dr. Robert Benbow for a while. And then moved out to 3408 Texas Ave. and then moved on out to College Station, at Eastgate Square and kept my office there until built an office at 1512 H )Ileman Drive. Ellen Horner - Helen what brought you and your family to College Station? Helen Price - OK we, my husband came back after the war and went to vet school, and after graduating he decided rather than going into practice Agnes Baker - My husband was an auditor for the USDA (Agricultural, Stablization conservation) traveled all over the state. The ASCS offered him a c job as Program Specialist here in the State office, so he talked it over with me. He was tired of being away from home and his family; I told him he was the one that made the living, so we moved here 37 years ago. 0. C. Cooper - It was my joy and pleasure to take care of a lot of people along Walton Dr. in College Station. Mrs. Baker and Mrs. Price were two of the patients that I had along with their families and they were a joy to always take care of. Ellen Horner - I have a question do you remember the names of your doctors and can you name them? Well we've got one right here. Were there other doctors in College Stati an? Helen Price - Yes. ?? - Dr. Andre Penny Cooper - And Dr.Holt. ?? - And Holt they were in an office together. And I did go to Dr. Andre. Penny Cooper - Over on the Southside. Agnes Baker - That's right. 0. C. Cooper - After Dr Andre left Dr. Holt's office, Dr. Holt stayed here for sometime before he went into anesthesiology and moved to Dallas. Penny Cooper - I thought he moved to Seattle. 0. C. Cooper - It could've been. My recollection I guess or maybe my mind is confused a little bit about that. But he did move and he left his office vacant for a while and that was at ,Southgate. And then Dr. T. 0. Walton was the other one that had an office at the corner of Walton and Texas Ave. And for a long period of time after I moved out: here to College Station, Dr. T. 0. Walton and I were the only physicians in College Station. Bryan or Brazos Valley Hospital was not out here. And there were no other medical facility other than our two offices that served the people for 15 -20 years that I know of. C Penny Cooper - Dr. Herbert Hooper was the Dentist. Ellen Horner - Dr. Herbert Penny Cooper - Hooper Ellen Horner - Hooper H 0 0 P E R. 0. C. Cooper - And he had an office in the building with Dr. T. 0. Walton. Which was on the corner of Walton and Texas Ave. Agnes Baker - Dr. 0. C. was the only doctor that my children knew while they were here, until they moved away. 0. C. Cooper - That says a long life for my age. Agnes Baker - But anyway we. They really liked him. We thought he was an excellent doctor. He'd even stop, when I was out in the yard one time one of my boys had been sick, he stopped in front of my house to see how he was getting along. He was real contentious. Ellen Horner - We don't have that, very much of that today. Agnes Baker - No we don't. Helen Price - I remember going to the Cooper's when they lived on Kyle. Our daughter had stuck a bean of something up her nose. We went to see Dr. Cooper and he got it out. You probably still do that 0. C. 0. C. Cooper - Well, yam. I have taken a lot of foreign bodies out of people's noses and ears, as well as children particularly. It got to where I could do it relatively easy and got fie confidence of the children and it made it a lot easier to do. Ellen Horner - We've talked a little bit about the social life and it seems like a lot of it revolved around yo Jr children. What about the adult social life? Helen Price - The churches. Ellen Horner - OK. c Helen Price - And the University had many clubs and activities. The Knife and Fork club has been going for a long time. Agnes Baker - And it's still going today. Helen Price - Still going. Penny Cooper - I know Helen Price - We had the little neighborhood book club. Ellen Horner - Did you have a garden club? Agnes Baker - A &M Gtarden club, and we had bridge clubs. Ellen Horner - OK. Where did you meet? OK, OK. We need to change tapes. Let us stop for just a minute. Where did you have your meetings, your book club, your garden club. Did you have a central place to meet, or did you meet in member's homes? Penny Cooper - The Brazos - Robertson Counties Medical Auxiliary met in homes, mostly in Bryan Mrs. T.O. Walton was President when I joined in 1954 and she lived in College Station. Helen Price - In homes is where the garden club met. Ellen Horner - Did the University have a meeting place? Helen Price - Oh yes. They met. Ellen Horner - Just like they do today. Helen Price - On campus just like they do today. The social club. Agnes Baker - All the different colleges had activities. .Ellen Horner - Moving forward a little bit, but, during the war. Did you'll? Helen Price - We weren't here. Ellen Horner - You weren't here during the war. I was going to ask about it. OK forget that. Helen Price - Helen Perry. Ellen Horner - Right. What about movie houses? Were there any movies here? Helen Price - Gion Hall. Penny Cooper - Gion Hall.(spelling ? ?) Agnes Baker - Drive -ins. Penny Cooper - Take the kids and go get popcorn and let them sit outside. O. C. Cooper - Also, th ere was a theater at Northgate which the children could go. But most of the children went to Guion Hall and they were there mostly. The children went more on Saturdays and they would get in free if they took up tickets. Penny Cooper - Or folded the popcorn boxes. Helen Price - I don't think I remember that. Penny Cooper - Was tie drive -in Skyway at the Northgate. Skyway or Circle? Circle. Agnes Baker - Circle Helen Price - Circle, yes Penny Cooper - Skyway was on 29th Street. Agnes Baker - That's where. We used to take the kids. Penny Cooper - The Circle. When we first moved here we lived for six months on Walton, where the Gallagher's live now. And then they sold it, so we moved over to Northgate in those areas that they've just torn down, on Cross Street. And, of course, the drive -in, Circle Drive -In was right behind. And the kids would get up on top of the house and watch the show. Of course they couldn't hear. O. C. Cooper - Well most of the houses in that area were built, I think, by Mr. Culpepper as a project Gif his. But they, the houses, were put up in a very fast, speedy method, and they were duplexes mostly. So most of the military people lived in that area. But I 1:an give you an example of how they were actually put • up. At one time I leaned up or pushed against the big window in the living room which was supposed to be a picture window and almost went out, pushing it out. Wasn't even nailed in, so they were put up rather fast for the military and since that time, of course, in the last year or two, that whole area had been completely torn down and bought by the University, as I understand it. Ellen Horner - Agnes you were saying something about a cleaners as we turned the recorder off. Can yo u tell us a little more about that, where it was located? Agnes Baker - The cleaners was located right in back of my house on Foster Street. Like I said they were there. It was a lady by the name Mrs. Cunningham, she ran it and she had the three daughters, they lived right across the street. Helen Price - One of those daughters died. A few weeks ago. Agnes Baker - I have often wondered what happened to that family. They moved to Florida as far as I knew. Helen Price - Yes. Agnes Baker - They le't here. They were really a neat, neat bunch of people. Helen Price - She died. She was 50 years old. Agnes Baker - They were neat girls and it was a nice cleaning shop. O. C. Cooper - That particular building went through kind of a transition, in that Mr. Homer Adams had a moving van service in there for a while. And then I think it has also been rented out as partially office at the present time. And also a motorcycle shop was in there. Ellen Horner - Today we don't think anything about going to a local restaurant or fast -food stop. What about restaurants in the early days? That must be a joke. Could you go, was there a place on the campus to go eat? Helen Price - Yes, you could eat at Sbisa. They didn't have the MSC in there. They did, but not when we first came. • O. C. Cooper - But the cafeteria part in Sabisa for the civilian population was down in the basement. Helen Price - That's right. O. C. Cooper - Of Sbisa, you had to kind of go down steps. Colonel Dollar, when he came, took charge of the food service. The facility actually really improved the eating facility in Sabisa all, in particular for civilian Southside of the University. And made a rather nice cafeteria - type style out of it. He did a good job with that, and we ate over there for a long long period of time with our family. Agnes Baker - after church. Helen Price - No it wasn't Clayton. Agnes Baker - Wasn't Clayton. O. C. Cooper - Clayton's and Hotard's were two restaurants in Bryan and most of the people,on Sunday's particularly, ate down at one of those two places. Agnes Baker - Then we had the pancake house right down the street where Wings & More is now. You know the pancake house? O. C. Cooper - Well Coach Norton. Penny Cooper - Oh yeb. I had forgotten about that. O. C. Cooper - It was a pancake house, restaurant and it stayed there for quite some time. Agnes Baker - Yes it did. It was right down the street there on Walton. Then we had the Moon's hamburger place at northgate. O. C. Cooper - It was always rather amusing to me that when I moved my office to College Station at Eastgate that the people in Bryan thought that I had moved completely to Houston. It was always further from Bryan to College Station than it was from College Station to Bryan. People in College Station were kind of used to going into Bryan to do a lot of their marketing and buying and every thing. So it was not, didn't seem so far for us to go as it did for Bryan to come to College Station. They would always say why did you move to Houston when you moved your office. Well, that was always amusing to me how different, so much different it was from Bryan to College Station than College Station to Bryan. It was a big difference in mileage, according to the people in Bryan. Agnes Baker - They seem to think that even today. Helen Price - Oh they sure do. Ellen Horner - I was going to say the same thing. Agnes Baker - That hamburger place was Moon's. Helen Price - Oh yea. That's right. Agnes Baker - We use to go, take them up there. And they would go themselves and kind of hangout there. It was a neat place and they served good hamburgers too. Penny Cooper - The kids use to hangout at the Tasty Freez too. Which was just about where the Ramada is now. Agnes Baker - Yes up here on that corner. Penny Cooper - Just past the Ramada is on Texas Ave. And they loved to go there. Ellen Horner - Now did your children graduate from the high school which is across the street, or the new high school? Penny Cooper - Two of ours graduated at the new one, the rest of them graduated from the old one. We have 5. Helen Price - Our daughter graduated from the new one and our son at the old one. Ellen Horner - OK. Agnes Baker - Two of mine graduated from the old one and two from the new one. Ellen Horner - It was quite a transition. Agnes Baker - Yes it sure did. 0. C. Cooper - It was always kinda nice and I felt safe for the children going to school because Mrs. Baker being in the high school you felt like she was going to be the mother for everybody that went to the high school. And of course she kind of watched after the children and knew more about what was going on probably than the superintendent did. Agnes Baker - Well, it was neat. It was amazing. Every parent should've sat there one day just see what was going on. Helen Price - I'm sure that's right. Ellen Horner - She probably knows a lot of things that, Helen Price - Yea I hope she doesn't tell. Ellen Horner - About our kids. 0. C. Cooper - I don't want to hear anymore from her than I've heard from my children in the last year or so. Penny Cooper - They talk. Ellen Horner - I wanted to go back to your office building for just a few minutes Dr. Cooper. Was the building already built, or did you build the building? 0. C. Cooper - When I , :ame to College Station there had been a Western Auto store. And so it was just one big open building with a kind of drive -in back at the back of it for cars to pull in for service. I took the Western Auto store and just converted it. And durincr the time they were actually converting it, putting in the plumbing and tearing up the floor and everything, I would put planks across those ditches that the plJmber had, and let people walk across that. The children thought that was great, because it was like going across Billy Goat Gruff's bridge. They coeld go back to one little office I had set up. It was rather hectic for several months getting that organized and done. And then trying to keep up the practice at the same time. But the people really have been unusual to accommodate to those situations and they were then. And the children were just marvelous. They just loved to come in there with that old dirt thrown everywhere and cross the bridges and stuff like that. Ellen Horner - You haven't mentioned anything about the banks. Was there a local bank? Agnes Baker - We had University Bank. 0. C. Cooper - But before that it was another name. I can't think of the name of the bank as it originally was, but Mr. Sullivan as far as I remember was probably one of the first Presidents of the bank that I remembered it. And then Mr. Sawyer was the President for a time at the bank after that. It has gone through a lot of transition. So the bank rather than being a community bank is really kind of been part of a big organization now and it's not as much. You don't feel like you know anybody in the bank anymore. Helen Price - That's right. 0. C. Cooper - Where as you knew everybody in the bank at one time in College Station. Most of my banking however, and one of the people who encouraged me to stay in Bryan and College Station was Mr. Bryan Sr. Penny Cooper - Travis Bryan 0. C. Cooper - Travis Bryan, Sr., in Bryan and that's where we did our banking for a long period of time Agnes Baker - That is where we started and I'm still with them. I am with the Teacher's Credit Union. Ellen Horner - What about service stations? Getting your car serviced. Penny Cooper - fcdr so long was right down there by Dr. Walton's office. And I think a lot of people went there for gas. Well McCall's too. Agnes Baker - Yea McCall's was one. Penny Cooper - Exxon Ellen Horner - There both still there? Agnes Baker - The station's are still there, yea. Penny Cooper - But I'm not sure. Agnes Baker - The McCall's changed to Texaco now. Penny Cooper - Did it? Agnes Baker - Yea it's a Texaco station now. And the other one Mobil is self service only. O. C. Cooper - Other services that you normally see here in the community right now were not available Y and you had to drive into Bryan to get a lot of services. There were filling statio,s and gas stations I think again that were located fairly convenient to parts. The things that's changed I think is the amount of traffic that's on the highways and streets. And you just can't believe the amount of traffic compared to where it was in 1952 and 54 is just tremendously increased. The whole community has increased and like Mrs. Baker was saying while ago its really imperative I thick the City take a look at the historical value of Eastside of College Station. Because as it begins to change it's going to creep the whole way into the College Hills area. Where if they begin to take some steps to try to preserve some of the things in the area that have already been developed. And not worry about, so much the things that are being developed outside the city or now within the city like Pebble Beach and some of the things that are outside. But a lot of the historical value of this community is in the Southgate, Northgate, Eastgate of this community and I think that City Hall needs to begin to pay attention to what's happening to these particular areas. Ellen Horner - I know when we first came here which I said was in the early 70's. I was teaching Texas History in the 7th grade. And the log cabin caught my eye. And I didn't kncw very many people in town and I had talked to a few people about perhaps the City purchasing that and having it for historical value. But then the first thing I knew it was torn down and duplexes were built in that area. There was another log cabin over on Dexter I believe. Helen Price - I remember that one. Ellen Horner - I think it has been torn down also. Agnes Baker - It was on Dexter. 0. C. Cooper - I think at one time that was, the one on Dexter was a boy scout troop cabin also. But, I think the historical value of anyplace is important to preserve. And I pledge, been pleading with the City Hall to do something about the Eastgate area and College Hills area for quite some time. In that when they permit 4 and 5 maybe 6 or 7 sometimes students to live in a residential area that are unrelated. They have no value as to whether they preserve what's the one kind of neighborhood or not. So, I think it's important that City Hall begins to pay more attention to that particular area. Ellen Horner - What do you think is the most important place historically in the Eastgate area? 0. C. Cooper - Well I think one of the places is the old Thomas house, I think. And it's really the people who have bought it now are doing a lot to preserve it, I think. But there are probably so other places and even back in Foster area that really to be preserved as historical monuments for this area. Ellen Horner - Can you, any of you think of any businesses in the Eastgate area that we haven't talked about? Helen Price - Eastgate area has really not been a business area, except right Agnes Baker - Edna's Beauty Shop and she since moved to Pruitt's. Penny Cooper - Georgie Bush. Agnes Baker - I still say Jersey all the time. Penny Cooper - I do tc. Agnes Baker - It will always be Jersey. 0. C. Cooper - I think this a very good exercise to record. And actually maybe give some of the young people who are working in City Hall at the present time, some perspective with what actually the history has been of this community. Because it has a lot of historical value and that particular area as well as other areas within the, what use to be the old city itself, really needs to be preserved as much as you can. And if you continue to let the thing deteriorate to where its unrelated people living In the community in 4, 5, 6 people in a house it soon begins to deteriorate to where it doesn't have anymore community activity. Penny Cooper - Well the City says that you can't park a car on the ground, you know, it has to be in the driveway. Any you go all over College Hills and you see at least two or three cars. Agnes Baker - Well I got a letter to that effect, that we should call Mr. Catalenia. Penny Cooper - But it's always on the weekends and you can't get them. Agnes Baker - I know. Penny Cooper - I mean if they really wanted to, to you know, observe it they would go all around on a weekend. Agnes Baker - Well they even get in the bicycle lanes on weekends, at night the cars do. Helen Price - Well there are too many cars for one, for one house. That's the problem. 0. C. Cooper - Well when you put 4 and 5 6 people in one house that makes a car for ever person living there. Helen Price - That's right. 0. C. Cooper - So, It means emergency vehicles getting up and down the street. Agnes Baker - Oh yes. Ellen Horner - I think that is becoming a problem in not only that area, but other areas too. I know we are in a newer area out by the high school and that's a problem in, on our streets also. Agnes Baker - The parking. Ellen Horner - Yes. O. C. Cooper - Well at one time the vision of College Station was that Jersey Street or George Bush Drive Street would be the center of College Station. Well that's kind of out grown its prediction at this time. Agnes Baker - Well and if youare afraid to back out of the drveway because of all the cars, afraid you would get hit. O. C. Cooper - We been here of course there have been never a time really that I can remember that really ever regretted having moved here and lived here in this community. Certainly, when we compare this to other places we could have moved, we still feel like it's a great place to live. And we would just like to see that some of the things that here to begin with still preserved. I think this is a good exercise to help maybe to get people at City Hall to recognize the fact that historical value to anyplace adds to the value. And if you lose that you have lost a big percentage of the value of the community. Helen Price - Well it hurts to drive down Foster and Milner because those use to be nice old family homes in there. And it's just. Agnes Baker - And it's all rental property now. Helen Price - It's not kept up and it's sad. Ellen Horner - Does anybody have anything else the would like to add? I had the depression and Would War II, but I think we all came after that time. So we will have to. I think one thing that I would like to ask the Cooper's I know you belong to the Baptist Church, what changes have you seen in the First Baptist Church in College Station, as to size and location? Penny Cooper - Well we moved. It use to be in Northgate, and the City finally said there were too many Churches all there together and that we didn't have enough parking spaces per member. And, so we decided that we would move. Then the Methodist Church wanted to buy, so that they could have the parking spaces and have more room for their church. So we built out on Welsh Street and it's a lovely building out there now and of course its grown. O. C. Cooper - One of the early things I could remember though about going to Church in College Station was we first went to Bryan to Church after visiting some of the Churches here in the area, or the Baptist Church here. Was that we went on a Wednesday night and there was nobody there but just our family as far as children was concerned so it was during a holiday period, so we didn't understand that so we ended up going to Bryan to Church to Central Baptist Church. And then later on we came back to the Church at Northgate the Baptist Church there, and are sill members on at the Welsh Baptist Church, First Baptist Church here. St- that was one of the things that gave us an idea that we wanted to live here in this area, was there were a lot of good Churches there was a lot of good schools and we felt the children could get a good education and we could raise there in a neighborhood and an area that was religious in organ and that just made a big impression on us. Helen Price - And our children are all so nice that we proved it. Agnes Baker - It is an excellent environment here, I think. Are when we moved here that was what we thought. We selected College Station because my husband wanted our children to go to A &M Consolidated. O. C. Cooper - I think the majority of the parents though really have the same aspirations for their children that we had for ours when we came here. They want the best for'em, they want the best schools the best Churches and good shopping area. And I think that's improvements that I think we have to be proud of. Ellen Horner - Do any of you have children who have remained in the College Station area? Helen Price - Yes we do. Agnes Baker - All of us do. Ellen Horner - I know Agnes does. O. C. Cooper - I think all of us have. All of our five children lived here for a long period of time, and six grandchildren. So they have felt like that, most of them have moved away and came back, the children did. But the grandchildren have all grown up here and they think its a great place to live. Ellen Horner - OK. Cari you tell us the names of your children. Penny Cooper - Joy, Jcy Cooper lives in 1025 James Parkway, and she works for the City of Bryan. Debbie lives in Briar, not Briar Oaks, Brier Oaks in Bryan about a mile from where we live. And O. C. Cooper - But her husband has an office in College Station. Penny Cooper - Yea her husband is a State Farm agent in College Station. Then Shelly, Shelly Michel, Randy Michel is the City Attorney, and, for College Station, and they live in Southwood Forest. David lives next door. And Karen is the public school, music teacher at College Hills. O. C. Cooper - John just moved to Lubbock with his wife, who teaches at Tech now. He is the only graduated from A &M that we had, so now we yell for A &M and pray for Baylor. Penny Cooper - Our girls had to go to Baylor because they couldn't, the girls couldn't go to A &M at that time. Ellen Horner - Helen. Helen Price - OK. I, We have two children. And Bob has O. C. Cooper - Bob Price is a real role model for the children at College Hills. And when he goes dow1 there to give talks from time to time they think Bob Price is really something else. Helen Price - Officer B . O. C. Cooper - Office B b. Helen Price - He doesn't do that anymore. I wish he did. Penny Cooper - They remember though. Ellen Horner - And Agnes. Agnes Baker - Our oldest, Ronnie attended Elementary School at the "chicken koops" on Timber and graduated from the old high school. He graduated from A &M with a degree in management. After graduation, he went to work for the State Comptroller in Au ±in and worked there 20 years. He is now in business for himself baking and selling cookies. He calls them "Ronnie's oatmeal cookies ". Randy attended Elementary school at College Hills and graduated from the old high school. He went to TSTI in Waco. He is in the Construction Business; and enjoys hiA work. Rodney attended Elementary School at College Hills and graduated from the present high school. He graduated from A &M with a degree in Secondary Education. He is married and has one son and lives in Austin. Rodney is in business for himself in the construction business. Renai attended Elementary School at College Hills and graduated from the present high school. She gaduated from A &M with a degree in Elementary Education. She teaches 4th grade in Carrrolltor, Texas; it is her 17th year teaching. Renai is married and they have two children (adopted), she is expecting after 15 years of marriage; we are all excited about that. Ellen Horner - It was interesting to hear Sharon Colson a few weeks ago say that. I don't know whether both of her children stayed here are not. But they • considered themselves "OLD College Station ". So I think if our offsprings stay here at this point they are Old College Station. Helen Price - That's right. He is holding up his hand. Ellen Horner - OK. I think we are a little bit early, but I think we have gone along just real quick. Helen Price - Chatter boxes, that's what we are. Ellen Horner - We certainly do thank all of you. O. C. Cooper - Well it's to bad I didn't know anything before 1952. Helen Price - We are not very old. 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