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® CITY OF COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS
Planning and Zoning Commission
January 4, 1990
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Sawtelle, Vice Chairman Dresser,
Members Colson, Davis, Esmond, and Gentry
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MEMBERS ABSENT: Member Michel
STAFF PRESENT: City Planner Callaway, Senior Planner Kee
City Engineer Pullen, Assistant City
Engineer Morgan, Mark Smith, Assistant
City Attorney Banks, Development Coordi-
nator Volk, and Planning Technician
Rosier.
AGENDA ITEM NO. 1: Approval of minutes - meeting of
December 21, 1989.
Mr. Dresser made a motion to approve the minutes as
submitted. Mr. Gentry seconded the motion which carried
unanimously. (6-0)
AGENDA ITEM NO. 2: Hear Visitors.
No one spoke.
AGENDA ITEM NO. 3: 89-710: A public hearing on the
question of granting a Conditional Use Permit for a
permanent parking lot for phase two of Aldersgate United
Methodist Church to be located to the north of the existing
facility at 6501 East By Pass.
Ms. Kee gave the staff report which explained the request,
area zoning and land use, and the land use plan. The report
was accompanied by a slide presentation which identified the
location. She also stated that the PRC which met on
December 14, 1989, recommended approval. She went on to
explain that this lot is being paved in accordance with the
requirements of that temporary parking ordinance which
allowed overflowed parking to be handled by gravel lots for
a period of one year, and the applicant is now proposing to
bring it up to standards. Ms. Kee informed the Commission
that three property owners were notified to which there was
no response. She stated that Staff recommends approval.
Mr. Dresser asked if there were previously approved any site
plans.
Ms. Kee stated that this is an additional parking lot, only
the existing parking lot has appeared on a site plan.
No one came forward to speak. Chairman Sawtelle closed the
public hearing.
Mr. Colson moved to recommend approval. Mr. Esmond seconded
the motion which carried unanimously. (6-0)
AGENDA ITEM NO. 4: 89-306: Reconsideration of Master
Preliminary Plat - Emerald Forest Phases 8, 9, 10 & 11.
Mr. Callaway pointed out the difference between the plat
under consideration at this meeting and the plat of the same
area which was considered earlier in 1989 by the Commission
and then taken to Council, not for consideration of the
plat, but for consideration of financial participation in
the construction of the bridge portion of Appomattox.
He stated that this revised plat does not provide for the
extension of what had previously been designated "North
Forest Parkway", but does include the extension of
Appomattox via the bridge in which Council has committed
certain funding.
He also informed the Commissioners that the area between
this property and the Bypass is not drawn to scale on the
plat, and is actually much longer that it appears to be on
the plat.
Mr. Callaway went on to inform the Commission that the City
has a "blanket easement" which provides continuous,
uninterrupted access through this tract of land to the waste
water treatment plant, and the developer has indicated on
the plat that he plans to relocate that access way to the
north side of his property, and outside the boundaries of
this plat.
Mrs. Sawtelle asked for an explanation of the "half street"
referred to in the memo from Mark Smith. Mr. Smith replied
that the subdivision ordinance prohibits platting half
streets, and it is his opinion that the reserve strip in
which the developer has proposed locating access to the
waste water treatment plant could represent a "half street"
in the event it is determined that this is the location for
the collector street which is indicated as part of the
Thoroughfare Plan. He explained that a collector street
would require a 60 foot right-of-way, and this 30 foot
reserve strip would only cover one-half the necessary width.
Mrs. Sawtelle asked if this would compare to the dilemna of
Sebesta Road and Mr. Smith replied that this would be
entirely different from the Sebesta Road issue because
Sebesta Road was a county road before it became access to 2
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subdivisions, and this 30 foot strip would only represent
access for the City to cross this property with traffic to
and from the waste water treatment plant.
Mr. Dresser said that he is confused, and asked if the plat
under consideration is the same plat which was reviewed and
reported on in the Presubmission Conference memo included in
the packet. Mr. Callaway replied that this plat under
consideration is the revised plat the developer has drawn
following the Presubmission Conference.
Mr. Colson asked for additional information regarding the
access agreement on sewer plant road. Mr. Smith replied
that private access is allowed across this property by a
blanket easement and there is no specifically designated
location for a road, but the easement simply guarantees
access to the City to reach the treatment plant. Mrs. Banks
added that the "blanket easement" guarantees to the City the
right to cross the property to get to the plant, but there
is no specific metes and bounds description of the location
of that accessway.
Mr. Colson asked for clarification of the "reserve tract" on
the plat, and Mr. Smith replied that the developer owns the
30 feet beyond what he is platting, and he is proposing that
to be used for the sewer plant road.
Mr. Colson asked if any consideration has been given by
anyone to the Thoroughfare Plan and Mrs. Kee replied that
the Thoroughfare Plan shows Appomattox running north and
south from Windwood through Emerald Forest subdivision, and
it also shows what had been designated "North Forest
Parkway" on the previous plat to be a collector.
Mr. Colson asked for an explanation of the note "existing
sewer lines", and Mr. Smith replied those lines are some
existing trunk lines which run through this property, and
collect from all over the City, and are not meant to serve
this development only.
The developer, Allen Swoboda, was invited forward to address
the Commission, and he explained that the plat on the left
(on the wall) represents the original plan on which the
bridge was omitted due to costs. He explained that it is
the plat which was taken to Council in November, not for
consideration of the plat itself, but for consideration of
the bridge over the creek, and the results were that Council
indicated the bridge should be constructed for the
continuation of Appomattox through this section of the
subdivision, and in fact, committed certain funding toward
participation in the construction of that structure.
Mr. Swoboda went on to state that the plat on the right (on
the wall), which is under consideration at this meeting was
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prepared as a result of the direction of Council regarding
the continuation of Appomattox, and his plat shows a
proposal of providing access to the public to this section
of the subdivision via that continuation of Appomattox, with
the guaranteed access to the City vehicles to the waste
water treatment plant to be located in a 30 foot reserve
tract to the north of the subdivision, to be donated to the
City as a 30 foot right-of-way which could be used in the
future toward the necessary right-of-way for a street should
it be determined that one is needed in that location.
He continued to explain that his plan is to erect barricades
at the end of the streets in his subdivision where they
would open into that "future street" to prevent public
access to residential traffic to that accessway meant only
for traffic to the waste water treatment plant. He added
that he does not want the sewer trucks to take access
through the subdivision.
Mr. Dresser asked how the trucks will get from the 30 foot
reserve right-of-way to the plant and Mr. Swoboda stated
that he does not know the answer to that question because
that area is on City property.
Mr. Dresser stated that the Thoroughfare Plan shows a need
for an east/west collector street in this vicinity, and
asked Mr. Swoboda if he agrees that one is needed. Mr.
Swoboda replied that one will probably be needed in the
future, if additional development to the north takes place.
Larry Wells, a representative for the applicant came forward
and took a small drawing to explain to Mr. Dresser and Mrs.
Sawtelle where Raintree Drive ends in the Raintree
subdivision, and describe the distance in the undeveloped
property between that point on this portion of Appomattox
included on this plat.
Mr. Dresser asked Mr. Smith if there is something specific
about the nature of the City vehicles which go to the
treatment plant which should not go on City streets, and Mr.
Smith replied there is not.
Mrs. Sawtelle asked exactly what the Council concern was.
She went on to state that even if barricades are erected, it
appears that 30 foot barely improved right-of-way could
become another "Green Valley Drive" which the City of Bryan
is trying to deal with in Wheeler Ridge subdivision.
Mr. Smith stated that Council was concerned with truck
access through a residential subdivision. Mr. Dresser asked
if the City should always maintain some type of private
access for sewer treatment vehicles, and Mr. Smith replied
® that for that type of traffic, it is preferable that they
not take access on residential streets through subdivisions,
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but rather on collector streets. Mr. Dresser then asked if
a collector type public street would fulfill the needs for
access to the treatment plant.
Mr. Callaway replied that the concern is to keep the trucks
out of a residential neighborhood rather than the use of a
particular type of street, since that type of traffic could
generate some concern in a neighborhood; maintaining
separate access would be an attempt to minimize that type of
traffic through the neighborhood.
Mr. Dresser stated that he thinks this proposed access on a
substandard road to the north of this subdivision is a
problem which cannot be answered at this meeting tonight.
Mr. Wells stated that the developer is only dedicating
exactly what the City is using now, and the City has a
choice: To continue using what it has through the
undeveloped area, or if the area is developed, to take
access via Appomattox Drive.
Mr. Swoboda stated that if Appomattox is completed through
this section of Emerald Forest, he does not think the
east/west collector would be too important, but it could
still represent a certain matter of convenience.
Mr. Esmond asked Mr. Swoboda if he plans to develop the
road, or if it is only a dedication. Mr. Swoboda stated he
will not develop it fully, but will clear and move the rock
for the road to the new location.
Mr. Esmond stated that on the original plat considered by
the Commission, the boundaries of the subdivision went to
the Bypass, and asked if other parties were involved in the
plat. Mr. Swoboda replied that the street on that property
which does not belong to him would have been done on a
separate plat, and those owners would have been a party to
that plat in signature only, because he would have built the
street.
Mr. Dresser asked about the concern expressed on the
Presubmission report over street names and Mr. Wells replied
that concern has been resolved. Mr. Dresser asked then
about the concern regarding the adjacent property owners
being a party to the plat and Mr. Wells replied that problem
was resolved by eliminating North Forest Parkway.
Mr. Dresser asked why cul-de-sacs were not planned in the
area where the street simply stops at the northern property
line, or why the developer or somebody has not reached an
agreement with the adjacent property owner to the north that
his land will be developed in the same configuration for the
continuation of that street. Mr. Wells replied that if the
City requires the developer to build North Forest Parkway,
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he will want the residents to have access, but if that
street is not required, that access is not absolutely
necessary.
Mr. Colson asked if North Forest Parkway was addressed at
the meeting Council made the commitment for participation in
the construction of the bridge. Mr. Swoboda replied that it
was, but he is not quite clear regarding the intention. He
thinks the Council wanted him to build the street from "here
to here" and then show that there would still be access, but
now to build that road is not financially feasible for him.
Mr. Colson stated that he has several problems with this
proposed plat, those being he does not think a 60 foot
right-of-way would be enough for the type of street needed
in this location, and then asked if permanent roads can be
put on easements.
Mr. Swoboda replied they cannot, and thinks the document
indicated a temporary road to be used for access, but he
cannot find a copy of the document.
Mr. Gentry explained various types of easements, and added
that this probably is an easement that simply guarantees
access somewhere across this property, and said that he is
comfortable with the probability that there is an easement
for this access which is totally undefined.
Mr. Swoboda added that while he cannot deny access under the
terms of the blanket easement, he is determining the
location of that access, and if in the future a road goes in
and the City does not need this type of access anymore, the
property can be given back to the landowners.
Mr. Colson said that he has several problems to be
addressed, one being that if that reserve tract ever becomes
a collector street, the 30 foot width will not be adequate.
Mr. Wells stated that if that happens in the future, the
reserve strip will no longer be owned by the developer
because his plan now is to give that strip to the City.
Mrs. Banks and Mr. Callaway together explained that a
situation of that type could put the City in a position of
having to deal with assessment problems, and both stated
they do not think this issue can be settled at this meeting,
but must be addressed by the Council.
Mr. Esmond said that anything within the boundaries of the
plat must be developed to City standards, and if something
is left outside the platted area, it can remain substandard.
Mrs. Davis said that Mr. Swoboda could have the right to put
• the road where he wants it and even if he builds it, the
part from his property to the Bypass would have to be built
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by somebody, and the future problem could be that the
• extension of Raintree Drive would be the more logical
location for a east/west collector. She asked again for
information as to what Council did actually direct.
Mr. Callaway replied that when the Council looked at this
plat, they were not dealing with the subject of the
subdivision plat itself, but rather were considering whether
to participate in the financial part of construction over
the creek.
General discussion followed. Mr. Colson then stated that
since the 30 foot dedication area is at the very
northernmost edge of Mr. Swoboda's property, it is really
all he has left to dedicate. Mr. Gentry disagreed, pointing
out that he could have taken the entire 60 feet out of the
subdivision and then designed the residential area.
Mr. Swoboda again stated that the 30 foot proposed
dedication represents what the City is taking now for
access, and if it is later determined that something more
than just access for the City is needed in that area, the
developer to the north can provide for the other half of the
street.
Mr. Smith stated he has never been concerned as to whether
30 feet is enough for access; his concern is that what is
being proposed does not meet ordinance requirements.
Mr. Gentry explained that everybody agrees that the 30 foot
width is what is actually necessary for the City's access to
the treatment plant, but the real issue here is that there
is a plan on the Thoroughfare Plan which calls for a
collector street in the area, and now he is wondering if the
developer dedicates at 60 foot right-of-way, rather than the
30 foot being proposed, would the City object. Mr. Smith
replied that he is unable to answer that question at this
meeting.
Mr. Wells interjected that if following the "letter of the
law" is the issue, then if Mr. Swoboda dedicates 60 foot of
right-of-way, he would also have to build the street, and he
does not want to build that street and is proposing access
for the residential traffic via Appomattox.
Mr. Dresser then stated that the ordinance says the
Commission should be informed of proposed zoning changes.
Mr. Swoboda replied that he will be requesting R-1A zoning.
Mrs. Kee stated that while that information is not on the
plat, it is on the application.
Mr. Dresser asked if the parkland dedication question had
been resolved, and Mrs. Kee replied that it has been.
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Mr. Dresser then asked if the only access to this part of
• the Emerald Forest subdivision is across the creek to the
existing portion of Appomattox, and Mr. Callaway replied
that while the adverse impact of Appomattox being a
discontinued street was discussed „ the concept of both the
connections came up, and it is his opinion that Fire, Police
and Sanitation would all prefer the secondary access North
Forest Parkway would provide, he cannot state that the
Council gave any specific direction to Mr. Swoboda.
Mr. Gentry stated that because this subdivision section(s)
doubles the size of the Emerald Forest subdivision, it would
seem logical that the traffic through the existing
subdivision would be doubled, and the Traffic Impact study
indicates only a 15% impact made by this addition. Mr.
Wells clarified by stating the study reflects that this
addition will only bring about a total of 15% of capacity
use of a 24 foot street. Mr. Gentry stated he is having
trouble understanding how doubling the size of a subdivision
can only cause a 15% increase in the amount of traffic.
More general discussion followed, with Mr. Smith explaining
that when the first part of Emerald Forest was planned, the
street capacity was also planned for this type of addition,
so the capacity is more than adequate for this type of
expansion and traffic count.
Mr. Esmond asked Mrs. Kee how R-1A development would affect
or be affected by the existing sewer treatment plant. Mr.
Smith replied that the Health Department requirement for
buffers between this type facility and residential
development is a minimum of 150 feet, and the minimum buffer
being proposed on this plat is 160 feet. Mrs. Kee stated
the zoning ordinance has no specific requirements for
buffers, but incompatible uses are addressed.
Mr. Esmond asked what staff's recommendation would be if the
treatment plant were an industrial facility, and Mrs. Kee
replied there would be a staff comment that some other
zoning district should separate industrial development from
residential development. She stated that during the update
of the Comprehensive Plan, the concept of Transitional Zones
was used, but she does not recall that was used in this
specific area.
Mr. Esmond stated the Health Department requirements are not
trying to tell anyone that 150 feet is always enough for a
buffer, so what is between the waste water tre atment plant
and any residential property becomes extremely important.
He asked if any discussion has been held with the developer
regarding screening. Mrs. Kee replied she is not aware of
that type of discussion.
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Mr. Wells stated the existing treatment plan is no less than
160 feet from any point in this subdivision, and the
separation increases greatly from that distance as you move
further south along the easterly property line. He stated
there are trees in the area, but any type of fencing has
never been discussed by the developer. He also said that
prevailing winds are away from the subdivision toward the
treatment plant.
Mr. Esmond stated the future integrity of the treatment
plant is his concern; that is the re-certification of the
plant in the future. He said he would be more inclined to
view a 500 foot buffer favorably than that being proposed.
Mr. Dresser asked Mr. Esmond if he thinks the close
residential development could become very troublesome to the
City and Mr. Esmond replied that is his concern, and he
thinks it could very well happen. Mr. Smith said that
future problems could come not only from infrequent wind-
shifts, but also from the level of protection of residential
development required by the government.
Mr. Esmond stated that at this time, the Texas Air Board
uses 2 different criteria - one for separation from
residential development and a different one for separation
from undeveloped and industrial areas, and in this case the
residential standard should be considered, and the land uses
• around the existing waste water treatment plant should be
considered.
Mr. Colson said that for purposes of taking some kind of
action on this item to halt this long discussion, he would
make a motion to approve this plat as proposed. There was
no second to the motion, so the motion died.
Mr. Dresser said he thinks there are 3 or 4 unresolved
issues which can be researched by staff, and perhaps Council
should be involved, but those are (1)the impact of
residential development on the existing waste water
treatment plant, (2)whether or not this particular collector
street adjacent and to the north of this proposed
subdivision needs to be on the Thoroughfare Plan, and if
additional study determines it is necessary, the exact
location must be resolved. He stated the burden for this
decision is not all Mr. Swoboda's, and to leave this
question unanswered is unfair to him for planning
development of his property; (3)Resolve the issue of City
trucks traversing a street in a residential neighborhood,
taking into consideration at least how that type traffic
would affect children playing in the street, and the
possible ordor of the trucks from the treatment plant; and
(4)Any access approved will be acceptable to Fire, Police
and Sanitation departments.
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Mr. Dresser reminded everyone that
access via Appomattox or the sewer whether trucks take
plant road, the issue of
possible odor and children playing in the street must be
addressed, and one possible way might be to construct solid
walls similar to those constructed along Deacon.
Mr. Dresser stated that it is his firm belief that as a
minimum, those issues must be resolved before the Planning
and Zoning Commission can make a recommendation on this plat
in this area. Mrs. Sawtelle stated that she agrees with Mr.
Dresser and would entertain a motion to table additional
consideration of this plat and the recommendation to Council
until these issues are resolved.
Mr. Gentry so moved, and directed staff to initiate a study
into these issues and to provide answers to the questions
raised by P&Z. Mrs. Davis seconded the motion to table with
the direction to staff.
Mr. Esmond said he would like to see the odor/noise issue
resolved, and would like for staff to consider making a
recomendation regarding an appropriate zoning district as
one of the means of dealing with these issues.
Votes were cast on the motion offered by Mr. Gentry, and the
motion carried unanimously (6-0).
. Mr. Swoboda asked how he as a developer could go about
resolving the street issue since he's been trying to do that
for years and Mrs. Sawtelle explained that staff will need
to decide whether a collector street is needed in that area.
Mr. Callaway stated staff will be looking at the appropriate
spacing of collector streets, the traffic generated in the
area, and will do an additional level of refinement of the
study done for the revision of the Thoroughfare Plan.
AGENDA ITEM NO. 5: Other Business.
Mr. Colson asked how direction from Planning is implemented
into the construction phase of building. The reason for his
question, related to the recent cold spell during which
several pipes burst. He asked if there is any way that the
City can require insulation around the pipes.
Mr. Callaway said that he would check on the plumbing
requirements which are handled by the Building Division and
return that information to the Commission.
Mr. Colson also asked if Western Auto was being built in the
Wolf Pen Creek Corridor on the site approved for the Wolf
Creek Car Wash.
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Mr. Smith said Western Auto was permitted to build at that
location adjacent to the car wash, and in fact, the two
projects share an access drive.
Next, Mr. Smith introduced Veronica Morgan as his
replacement as Acting Assistant City Engineer.
Ms. Kee stated that Staff needs some direction from the
Commission in certain situations, and cited as an example
the driving range along the Bypass. She explained that
someone has come in who wants to replace one building on the
site with another, slightly larger building. She said that
in this specific case, the use (driving range) and the
accessory buildings are conforming, but because the parking
lot is unimproved, it is non-conforming. She pointed out
that Staff's question is concerning at what point full
ordinance compliance will be required for a site if anything
is changed.
There was no other business.
Mr. Dresser made a motion to adjourn which Mr. Colson
seconded. The motion carried unanimously and the meeting
was adjourned. (6-0)
APPROVED:
Ch~irma awtelle
ATTEST:
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City Secretary, Dian Jones
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