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• CITY OF COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS
Planning and Zoning Commission
October 15, 1987
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Brochu, Members Stewart, Sawtelle,
Colson and Moore
MEMBERS ABSENT: Members Dresser & Wendler
STAFF PRESENT: Zoning Official Kee, City Engineer Pullen,
Assistant City Attorney Banks and Planning
Technician Volk
AGENDA ITEM NO. 1: Approval of minutes - meeting of October 1,
1987.
Mrs. Sawtelle asked for a correction to be made to reflect that the Members Absent at
the last meeting were "Sawtelle & Wendler" rather than "Stewart & Wendler". Mr.
Colson made a motion to approve the minutes as amended. Mr. Stewart seconded the
motion which carried by a vote of 4-0-1- (Sawtelle}.
AGfi NDA ITEM N0. 2: Hear visitors.
No one spoke.
• AGENDA ITEM N0. 3: 87-709: A public hearing on the question of
granting a Conditional Use Permit for a sign at the existing
church facilities at 1007 grenek Tap Road. Applicant is
Beautiful Savior Lutheran Church.
Mrs. Kee explained this request is for a sign at the existing church on Krenek Tap
Road. She read Section 12.3.N. of Ordinance 1638 which states "signs for conditional
uses shall comply with the regulations for the zoning district in which the
conditional use is permitted. An applicant wishing to propose signage using the
requirements of a zoning district different from the one in which the conditional. use
is permitted must receive approval from the P&Z as part of the conditional use permit
process." She pointed out the property i.s zoned R-1 and the C.U.P. for the church
was granted in 5-3-84; that the church is proposing a sign which meets the
limitations of the freestanding signs allowed in C-1, C-2, C-3, M-1 and M-2 zones
rather than those allowed in R-l, thus, must have a C.U.P. granted by the Commission.
Mr. Colson asked the height of the Central Park sign across the street and Mrs. Kee
replied she did not know, but it is lowet• than this proposed sign. Mr. Moore asked
about lighting for the proposed sign and Mrs. Kee referred that question to the
applicant because lighting is referenced on the site plan, but the type is not.
The public hearing was opened. Alfred Miller, Chairman of the Building Committee for
the church came forward to answer any questions. Mr. Brochu asked him if there are
plans to light the sign and Mr. Miller replied there are none at this time. Mr.
Brochu asked what materials were planned for this sign and Mr. Miller said the plans
• are to use the same type material as was used for constructing the church. No one
else spoke. The public hearing was closed.
Mrs. Sawtelle made a motion to approve this C.U.P. as requested. Mr. Stewart
seconded the motion which carried unanimously (5-0).
AGENDA ITEM NO. 4: 87-215: A public hearing to consider a Final
Plat - a resubdivision plat of Lots 49, 50, 51, 81, 82 and 83 of
the First Subdivision College Hills Woodlands.
Mrs. Kee explained this replat is reducing the number of lots in this residential
subdivision, that the existing house will still meet all setback requirements, and
the other lot which will be formed is of a shape and size to allow construction of a
residence which meets all setback requirements. She explained that all conditions on
the presubmission conference report have been met, and staff recommends approval of
the plat as proposed.
The public hearing was opened. No one spoke. The public hearing was closed. Mr.
Stewart asked if there is adequate utility service available in that area for an
additional home and Mrs. Kee replied there is, and the required extension of the
sewer line will be the responsibility of the developer.
Mr. Stewart made a motion to approve the plat as presented with presubmission
conference conditions. Mrs. Sawtelle seconded the motion which carried unanimously
(5-0).
AGENDA ITEM N0. 5: 87-708: &econsideration of a site plan for
the Post Oak Christian Church on Lot 24 Block 1 Harvey Hillsides
Addition subdivision. (A Conditional IIse Permit for the church
was granted on 10-1-87; consideration of the site plan for that
church was tabled at that ,eeting.)
Mrs. Sawtelle made a motion to remove this item from its tabled position. Mr. Colson
seconded the motion which carried unanimously (5-0).
Mr. Brochu asked Mrs. Kee if the Commission is required to hold another public
hearing and Mrs. Kee replied that is not required, and additionally, that all
adjacent property owners had been notified by staff that the public would be allowed
to speak at this meeting at the discretion of the Commission.
Mrs. Kee then explained that staff had met with Mr. Green, the applicant, and
discussed all the concerns mentioned at the previous meeting. Mr. Green then
decided after that meeting that he would request reconsideration of the original
site plan which had been tabled at the previous meeting.
She said that staff then had a brief meeting with Commissioners Dresser, Moore and
Stewart to discuss the concerns voiced at the previous meeting which included
drainage, access and curbing requirements. She referred to a memo from Assistant
City Engineer Mark Smith which states that it is not necessary for drainage from this
site to be directed to Marcy Lane since stormwater can be channeled to the drainage
ditch along Highway 30. The memo explains that access shown on the site plan is
preferred over other options since a driveway from this site directly to Harvey Road
would conflict with traffic from Marcy Lane, and points out that the City's current
policy encourages access to minor streets whenever that option is available as it is
in this instance. The memo also explains that in addition to aesthetic reasons for
requiring curbing around parking areas, curbing is used to define and direct traffic
circulation and to channelize storm drainage, and as a policy, concrete curbing is
the City's minimum standard.
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Discussion followed regarding those concerns and responses from Mr. Smith, with Mrs.
Kee and Mr. Pullen adding clarification of certain paints from time to time in the
• discussion.
Mr. Brochu then explained that a public hearing is not required far this item, but he
asked the Commissioners if they would like to open the meeting for public comment
anyway. All agreed it would be appropriate to invite the public to speak.
Daniel Green, pastor of the subject church came forward and stated that the church
would be happy to direct drainage from this site to Highway 30 if so directed. He
then said that the cost factor of curbing was certainly important, but the church
would still like the Commissioners to consider granting a variance to that
requirement since there are other reasons involved. He said that the church has
ascertained that curbing along Marcy Lane is the only place it would be used to
control traffic, and he pointed out that berms, wheelstops or hedges along the edge
could be used for the same purpose, and the church would request that the Commission
consider some treatment for the parking lot other than curbing.
Richard Hartmann, 34 Marcy Lane came forward and stated that the deeds for this
subdivision specify it is for residential use only and those deeds are filed for
record in Volume 280 Page 264 of the Deed Records of Brazos County, Texas.
Leonard Fox, a member of the church came forward and stated that for 1.2 miles from
this site to the East Bypass there are no curbs, and the church would like to know
when the City plans to curb Marcy Lane or Highway 30 if curbing is going to be
required on this parking lot. He stated. that the church would really rather to be
allowed to use berms, hedges, etc. to control traffic rather than curbing.
• Mr. Stewart asked Mr. Fox if he is asking for a variance to curbing on the church's
lot because Marcy Lane and Highway 30 are not curbed. Mr. Fox replied that the church
will use curbing if it is required, but would like for the City to tell the people
when the streets in the area will be curbed and guttered.
Mr. Colson stated he is opposed to requiring this church to curb and gutter a parking
lot when nothing else in the area has curbing, and just about 4 weeks ago this very
Commission granted a variance to the Peace Lutheran Church inside the City to that
same requirement.
Mr. Stewart explained the variance was granted to Peace Lutheran Church because it
was adding parking to existing parking and wanted the treatment of the lot to be
continued as it exists. Mr. Colson stated that may be so, but he would prefer
consistency in decisions. Mr. Stewart replied that requiring curbing for this church
would not represent inconsistency, since all the new projects in this area were
required to, and do have curbed parking lots. He then named Furrows, Aldersgate
Methodist Church and the Catholic Church on the Bypass as examples of large curbed
parking lots.
Mr. Colson said he still disagrees with this requirement.
Mr. Brochu then pointed out 2 churches in the near vicinity of the Peace Lutheran
Church which had to include curbing on the parking lots. He agreed that he strives
for consistency, and overall believes the Commission has been consistent it its
requirements. He said that he thinks the variance granted to Peace Lutheran Church
• represents the exception to the rule, and should not be used to set a new policy,
adding that each project should be judged on its own merits.
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Mr. Stewart made a motion to approve this site plan as presented with the condition
that all drainage must be directed to S.H.30 and Ilot to Marcy Lane, and that the
• applicant is required to construct a "normal. parking lot" used in College Station,
that is, that this parking lot should include curbs and gutters. Mr. Moore seconded
the motion.
Mrs. Kee asked if the Commission is approving the plan with the addition of the 2
trees which would be required for it to comply with ordinance landscape requirements.
Mr. Stewart said he would amend his motion to require landscaping to meet ordinance
requirements. Mr. Moore seconded and accepted the amendment. Votes were cast on the
motion as amended with the motion carrying by a vote of 4-1 (Colson against).
AGENDA ITBM N0. 6: Continuation of Review of Goals, Objectives
and Development Policies.
Mr. Moore briefly reviewed the third revision of the Utilities section of Goals &
Objectives. All agreed they were now acceptable.
Mr. Stewart referred to the Housing section of Goals & Objectives he and Mrs.
Sawtelle had prepared and explained that they had made an attempt to take out
superfluous wording, redundancies and things they deemed inappropriate for inclusion
in this section. He said they had even thought about having 2 goals; one for new
housing and one for existing housing, and asked for advice from the Commission.
Mr. Stewart also explained that the existing commissions and boards primarily
function to hear requests for variances to codes, but do not apparently actually
evaluate existing codes except for the Structural Standards Board which evaluates
• materials which can be used in construction. He said that he and Mrs. Sawtelle
thought perhaps a board or boards should be appointed which do evaluate current
codes.
Discussion followed concerning the objective covering the development of diversified
types of housing for low/fixed income groups, with Mr. Colson saying that he does not
think the City should address low income housing. Mrs. Sawtelle explained that the
new wording says exactly the same thing the old wording says, but some verbage has
been removed. Mr. Stewart informed Mr. Colson that staff has requested the inclusion
of an objective of this nature in order to comply with H.U.D. requirements. Mrs. Kee
explained that the Community Development program addresses housing for these groups,
and staff from that division have informed the Planning division that inclusion of a
statement of this nature in a longe range planning document such as The Plan is
useful to those programs.
Mr. Moore asked how the City encourages retirees to settle here, specifically
regarding a second house on a lot, etc. He added that he believes codes should
address this issue. Mrs. Kee explained that the zoning ordinance does allow more
than 1 house on a lot and it also addresses use of accessory structures for housing
relatives or servants.
Mr. Moore asked what the City's position would be with regard to being more active in
promoting this type of growth. Mrs. Kee stated that she cannot answer how active the
City might want to be, but added that the patio homes on Anderson were sought and
approved through L.U.L.A.C., and that the ordinance addresses flexibility in lot sizes
with the R-lA zoning district.
• Mr. Brochu stated that the existing ordinances have the means to allow a variety of
housing, but he does not know if this particular document should be used to promote
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any one specific thing.
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Mr. Colson stated that he likes the changes suggested in the Housing document
presented, and recommended that the Commission accept it. All agreed.
AGENDA ITEM NO. 7: Discussion of the Northgate Association
meeting.
Mrs. Kee announced the meeting would be on Monday, October 19th at 6:30 p.m. at the
University National Bank building, that Commissioners Dresser, Moore and Stewart
would be the official representatives, but all others are invited to attend.
AGENDA ITEM N0. 8: Other business.
There was no other business.
AGENDA ITBM N0. 9: Adjourn.
Mr. Moore made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Colson seconded the motion which carried
unanimously (5-0).
• ATTEST:
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City Secretary, Dian Jones
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