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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/08/1981 - Workshop Minutes City Council MINUTES WORKSHOP CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 8, 1981 4:00 P.M. COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Halter, Councilmen Boughton, Dozier, Ringer, Prause, Jones, Runnels COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: City Manager Bardell, Asst. City Manager/Finance Director VanDever, City Secretary/Tax Assessor-Collector Schroeder, City Engineer Ash, City Planner Mayo, Asst. Engineer Smith, Public Works Director Ford, City Attorney Denton VISITORS PRESENT: See guest register. Agenda Item No. 1 - Council Concerns. Mayor Halter, City Manager Bardell, and City Attorney Denton were absent for the first part of the meeting. Mayor Pro-tem Ringer called the meeting to order. Mayor Pro-rem Ringer stated that he had received numerous phone calls from residents of Dexter Street concerning the "No Parking" signs that had been posted. Agenda Item No. 2 - Discussion of flood drainage problems during recent rain. City Engineer Ash stated that no presentation was to be made for this item by the city staff; yet if the council had any questions during their discussion, the staff would answer any questions they could. Councilman Boughton asked if the heavy duty machine that was to be rented had been used to clean up some of the debris yet. Public Works Director Ford stated that the machine that was to be rented had just arrived today. He stated that they are presently cleaning out the creek between the warehouse and police station to get use to operating the machine. City Engineer Ash stated that the first priority item is the section between Longmire and Texas Avenue. The second priority item is the bridge on Bee Creek at Texas Avenue near Valley View. Third priority item is the major channel that runs from Longmire to Brothers Boulevard. Public Works Director Ford stated that the priorities were simply a guide. The crew would have to work as the weather permitted them to. One lady asked how close the water had gotten to the house in these areas. Councilman Prause stated that it had come within a few inches or so. He also asked if these areas were all right-of-way areas and if there were any plans on going on to the easement areas and clean. Public Works Director Ford stated that all these areas were easement areas. 03 50 MINUTES REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 8, 1981 4:00 P.M. PAGE 2 Councilman Jones asked what the difference was between the right-of-ways and the e~sement areas. City Engineer Ash stated that an easement belongs to the property in which in lies. A right-of-way is owned by the public. He showed the council where the easements are in the city on the map. He stated that the city had hired a firm to do a flood plain study of the area and project the area at a maximum growth and comprehensive land developmon~ The firm studied the area with the channels and bridges as they are today and arrived at a run off pattern for the rain with all areas fully developed. Councilman Runnels asked if there is no regulation of upstream waters, how extensive would our future program be to get the streams large enough to handle the continuous downstream waters. City Engineer Ash stated that in the old Flood Plain Ordinance it states that a developer can build in a flood plain but is restricted to a 1 ft. rise in the back stream flow upstream from his developed area. The new Flood Plain Ordinance provides for a O. rise in the back water. Councilman Runnels asked if the problem was caused by debris at bridges or the result of small stream not being able to hold the water. City Manager Bardell suggested that a decision be made whether the areas were to be maintained or altered. Councilman Jones stated that taking action to alter the channels in the near future would probably be a less expensive route than keeping up maintenance because this is going to have to be done at one time or another. City Manager Bardell suggested cleaning up the priority areas and come back to the council with a specific dollar figure on how much it is going to cost to maintain other areas. Councilman Ringer Cecommended that the areas that would require maintenance all year around be kept in good condition continously. This could De done by removing the trees from the area and would eventually cost less than removing them on each occurance. He also stated that there was a suggestion at the last meeting to create a committee consisting of citizens, non-developers, developers, city staff, and city council to look at the city policy on flood plain development. Councilman Dozier suggested keeping the areas cleaned and lots mowed on a maintenance routine because the owners of the properties were not keeping up their lots. Councilman Jones asked if the past idea of having inmates from Huntsville help with the work was a problem when it occured in the past. 03Z$1 MINUTES WORKSHOP CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 8, 1981 4:00 P.M. PAGE 3 City Manager Bardell stated that the residents wanted the channels cleaned out to stop the flooding until they saw that the inmates were doing the work. The inmates were given a benefit dinner at the Ramada Inn for their 2 to 3 months work on the project and mamy residents opposed this. Councilman Prause recommended that the first three priorities be completed and the committee be created to study the areas and come up with a recommendation in 6 weeks or so on how to solve the problem. He stated that if there were any alterations to be made, that they needed to be taken care of now before another serious flood occured. City Manager Bardell stated that if the committee is to create a policy on drainage maintenance then a policy would also be needed for drainage construction. He stated that if a developer needs to build a bridge larger than the needs for his development, perhaps the city or others who would benefit ~hould participate. Agenda Item No. 3 - Closed session to discuss land acquisitions 6252-17(f). The council moved to closed session to later reopen to the public. Agenda Item No. 4 - Action on closed session. There was no action taken on closed session. Agenda Item No. 5 - Adjourn. Mayor Halter adjourned the meeting. ATTEST: Glenn Schrd~der, City Secretary APPROVED: Gary H~lter, ~y~r - 032,S;2 GUEST REGISTER WORKSHOP CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 8, 1981 4:00 P.M. 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