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Wednesday, July 16, 1997
9:30 a.m. to 12:00 noon
Moderator: Debbie Jasek
Transcriptions: Kymberli Rucker
Interviewee: Helen Pugh, Fred Gardener (father of David Gardener, jeweler), Theo
Doerge, Gladys Taylor
DJ: Basically, the easiest way for this is to work I found is to start and just kind of go
around the table and let each of you speak first. The first thing I like you to tell about is a
little about where you lived and, where you went to church. Where your church was .
Which church was it and, what kind of facility did you have when you first started. Your
first memory of going to church there, was it a temporary building and then they built a
church or was the building all ready there? Mr. Gardener, would you like to start out?
FG: Sure I don't mind. I'll start it out. If I leave anything out stop me while I'm going.
• I'm one of those who can talk about things that really don't mean to much and may not be
important. We came here the first time in 1953, from Vermont and, at that time, were
students living over in the project houses. At that time I think we had two children. We
joined St. Thomas Episcopal Church on Jersey. Jersey was only a two lane road and since
we lived in project houses we could walk over there. We went to several different
churches between then and now. I don't know when it was constructed, but it was there
when we arrived. The priest was the Reverend Darwall, and the facility as I remember
was just the main church building and a Parish Hall and, that was it. We had a white
building that was the parsonage and I don't remember if Mr. Darwall, used it or not but,
that was the total structure. I don't know how many people attended. That was our first
church here in College Station and we stayed until 1955 when we moved to another
university. We returned to College Station in 1959, when the Reverend Bill Oxley was the
church priest. Since that time we're attended St. Andrews in Bryan for a while and when
all of my children were grown we were so close to St. Thomas we went back to St.
Thomas and, we've been there every since. That's it.
DJ: That's great! Mrs. Doerge.
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TD: Well, I went to the First Baptist Church when it was over in Northgate, it was in
April of 1942 when I came to A &M to work at the university and, I live in that stucco
building. I don't know what it is called now, it is still over in Northgate. It was six
apartments in that building and I lived there and, the church was right around the corner.
So I spent half of my time at church and the other half at home, but our Reverend was
R.L. Brown. At that time and they were building a new Educational building about the
time I got there. I'm not really sure but I think it was completed about the time I got there
and, I don't know for sure. Let somebody else talk while I think.
BK: Is that before you and Bud married?
TD: Yes. We met in 52. That was the days of when Cliff Harris and David Fort and the
missionary kids were there and, we had Mrs. Brown, Mrs. Brown, was real good about
doing things for young people. She said money was not an object for people to have a
good time so even though she had things were the young people could wear ordinary
clothes or dress up or wear an evening dress or some jeans so they could feel part of the
things that were going on.
DJ: Great, Great.
• KR: That's good.
TD: It was real interesting.
DJ: Mrs. Pugh.
HP: Well, we moved down here the day after we married February 8, 1941. We both
were Baptist when we moved down here and, once a Baptist always a Baptist.
(Laughter). We had so much going that we knew where the Baptist Church was.
Everybody knew who my husband was and, I guess they just assumed we belonged to that
church, because we had no visitors or anyone to tell us about the church and, so we left
here after my husband graduated in 42 to the Army and then from the Army it was some
pro football and, what not. Then we moved back down here permanently in 1947 and that
was when we joined the First Baptist Church of College Station. Brother Brown, R.L.
Brown, was the pastor and just a repeat of a lot of what you said. I can't remember the
structure.
TD: Was that building completed before you got here?
HP: I don't think so. Seem like they were barrack kind of buildings or a wooden
structure.
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BK: I'm sure, I'm almost positive the education building was there, the sanctuary wasn't
there.
HP: The main thing is I was superintendent of the Beginner Department for a number of
years and, I remember during whenever that year was when Gil Steinke, was our assistant
football coach 1949 -1953 at A &M. He had two young boys seem like they might have
been twins, I can't remember. Mrs. Hermon Krauser was the teacher of the Steinke twins.
Almost every Sunday the twins would slip out of the Sunday School building and run for
North Gate, with Mrs. Krauser chasing them! Her husband worked at Caldwell Jewelers.
She worked for A &M. Anyway, she was one ofmy teachers. Being in the A &M Garden
Club and Flower Show Judge, I was appointed Chairman of Sanctuary flowers. I was
connected with the flowers for the church and, so I made it easy. I thought the
arrangements were beautiful, but people criticized them because they were silk flowers.
But all I had to do every Sunday was get an arrangement, huge arrangements that would
fit in with that Sunday and I thought that was a neat thing to do and, then for some reason
I got on a committee or I was the committee to repaint the inside of our church sanctuary
and, I don't know if you remember it. It was a painted a pale green.
TD: I don't remember.
• HP: I don't know why that happened. But an a I don't
much, but the inside was a ale ale � y' think that was liked very
Church of College Station old our property to the Methodist Church and built a Baptist new
church out on Welsh, and, we still don't have a sanctuary. But I think it's growing all the
time, and serving the college students very well.
TD: Memorial Library was in the First Church over in Northgate cause I remember I use
to spend some time working in there.
DJ: So I take it both the First Baptist and St. Thomas had permanent pastor? Did he
pastor to any other churches because I know even now in some of the smaller churches
You got a pastor who may actually work with two or three congregations or was he
exclusively for your church? Mr. Gardener.
FG: Well I don't remember Mr. Darwall's activities at other churches because at the time
we were students here and my involvement was strictly on Sunday. But I know once Rev.
Oxley, came and even now with Reverend Aurand we have a commitment to at least one
church I know of in Calvert.
DJ: Mrs. Doerge.
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TD: R.L. Brown, was there when I got there and had been there for quite sometime. Do
you remember he came as a student director of something at A &M. Seemed like the
church was formed in the early 20's, and then he was there when I got there in 42 and,
was there until can't remember if it was 50 or 51 when he retired. Because I married in 52
and he was gone at that time.
HP: I know we had several (Inaudible) were or different preacher. It all depend on if
the "Lord called them!" But we have had Brother Malcolm Bain, for a number of years
now, (28) years. The pastors of the First Baptist Church have been R.L. Brown (1920- r
1950), Byron Richardson (Sept. 1, 1950 -June 30, 1951), an intern ( ?), Bob Longshore
(July 1, 1952 -Dec. 1, 1959), Cecil Sherman (Just 1960 -Mar 15, 1962), Guy Greenfield
(June 24, 1962 -Aug. 24, 1964), Lloyd Elder (Mar 8, 1965 -Jan. 27, 1969), and Malcolm
Bane (Aug. 10, 1969- present).
FG: Same preacher. Is that right?
HP: Yes. We almost (Inaudible) several years back.
• FG: We in the Episcopal Church generally provide housing to the priest or the leaders. I
see the transition of our church not doing that anymore, and instead we furnish a financed
house allotment. Some of you might remember that old white building that use to be by
St. Thomas that used to be the sanctuary years ago. It was moved and now other
buildings are there. We no longer provide a facility for either the priest or the chaplain. A
money housing alliance is given so they can buy there own place. We currently are
limited to two churches in the College Station community.
DJ: Well I,
DJ: Igo to St. Anthony's in Bryan originally I went, of course, to St. Mary's when I was
in College, but I also went to St. Thomas Episcopal.
FG: Did you really?
DJ: When I went to college in the 70's. My boyfriend went to St. Thomas Episcopal, so
I went to St. Thomas Episcopal.
FG: So it wasn't the faith that brought you? (Laughter)
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DJ: It was fimny because we would walk in the morning and we would go to St. Mary's
to mass, early mass together and turn around and go to St. Thomas Episcopal to the later
mass and, then we would compare the two because we thought many times the two priest
had gotten together and conspired because the sermons were almost exactly the same.
Many times we thought because the Episcopal Church and Catholic Church were so much
alike. We thought it was great because we each could follow the other services without a
prayer book. So that was kind of interesting. Speaking of that the younger groups this
being a, oh great! Hello, Gladys how are you? Oh, great we have another Baptist. We
have joining us Gladys Taylor, and you go to the Baptist Church? What we've been
talking about is the churches where we go to church and what we remember about the
buildings. Now just as I was starting to say because this is a college community I'm sure
many of the things that the church did were organized around the student activities. What
type of things did your church do or have in the way the youth group interaction with the
college? Mr. Gardener.
FG: Well, when we first came down as students at A &M I don't remember many
. programs that were directed specifically to the college students. There was always a
youth program, and my children were involved in those, but as college students go, it was
very little. Then it slowly developed to the extent that we now have a Canterbury
Association and a priest and a new building for that organization that's quite active. One
of the changes we've seen over the years has been the emphases on the need of the college
student and, now there's quite a number of young students that have missions in
Honduras and other areas. I think about probably sixty or seventy go to Canterbury at St.
Thomas and now there are youth programs that are directed to the high school group and
maybe one or two grades below that. We now have a youth director involved with a ll
these students. So there has been an increase in emphases on student needs that was not a
priority back in the 40's and the 50's. I don't think that emphases really existed at St.
Thomas.
TD: But it did at First Baptist in College Station. We had a very large group and every
Sunday night we would have anywhere to 40 to 50 members. We generally fed them
sandwiches and something to drink.
GT: RL. Brown came here as pastor of this church. He came here as a student leader
director for Southern Baptist and so we all ways had very strong student group within the
church. Excuse me Theo.
TD: No, you go ahead.
• GT: You didn't tell us when you first got here?
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DJ: We need to have you do that. We need you to tell us when you got here and, when
you joined the church. What you remember about the church.
GT: I came here in 1953 and joined the church and like I say it was really a student
church.
DJ: That quite a bit of what St. Mary's is like.
FG: You came from where?
GT: Well actually this is really my home, but my husband was a County Agricultural
Agent in Trinity County.
FG: So you came from Texas through Texas. You said you came in 53.
GT: Well I came back here, put it that away.
DJ: Did you go to church when you were growing up here at First Baptist?
• GT: No, actually I grew up in Kurten, which is just outside of Bryan, so I went to a
Baptist Church in Kurten.
HP: Like I say. Once a Baptist, always a Baptist. (Laughter).
DJ: How many times of the month did you folks meet on a regular basic? Was it regular
Sunday and Wednesday services? Is that correct?
TD: One time a student came by the church to see if I was still livi . ng here and Mr Brown
said if you just stay right here she'll be here for Prayer Meeting. He said just stay right
here, she'll be here in a minute.
DJ: So you have basically the regular Sunday and Wednesday services?
FG: I know basically we have Sunday services. There are always program during the
week. Wednesday here at A &M is primarily church night. There are always programs
going on. Our Canterbury program has a regularly
evenings including both a meal and service. The program is currently under e thh e lection
of the Reverend Mark Crawford.
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DJ: Did you ever have special services that you remember like Revival Week or special
times when your church got together with other churches or some sort of a special type of
thing. Did any of your churches do that?
FG: We always visited other churches even Hearne and Calvert. We would go to dinner
with the groups up there, and so forth. I can remember visiting several times in churches
in Brenham, Hearne, Calvert Navasota, Conroe, but it wasn't an organized thing. It was
a program that developed. A lot of times though the youth would have youth programs
that would have gatherings. A lot of this was tied in with the Youth Development
Program.
HP: That's the way it is a lot of the time. Student programs get together and then it falls
into more. Maybe some of the Baptist remember and I'll never forget this. Charles Allen
was the Methodist preacher in Houston that everyone just loved. He came up and they
had this special meeting, I think it was Wednesday night. Anyway I'll never forget that
meeting. That was when the Methodist and Baptist had gotten together.
DJ: And when did that happen? Do you remember?
• HP: No, I don't. But anyway the church was filled. He was a Me
Houston for so long, Methodist preacher in
TD: I think he came more than once.
HP: Oh, did he ?
FG: I was talking to Bill Lancaster, before we broke into these groups I think he went to
the Presbyterian Church. My mother was Presbyterian. She moved down here and spent
the last twenty years of her life here. She got into a group with Mrs. Cashion, Mrs.
Anderson, and Mrs. McFadden.
HP: Mrs. Burgess, was Baptist.
FG: Well, Mrs. Anderson, Red Cashion's mother, Mrs. Burgess, Mrs. McSpaden and
my mother were quite a four some. You never knew what was going to happened. They
got together all the time. Two things stick in my mind. probably two or three times a
year we would all go to Presbyterian Church with my mother for a Hymn Sing, and my
kids loved this thing. We have six children, and they would all line up with my mother. I
don't think my mother cared if I went or my wife went as long as the kids went. They had
a grand time that night. My mother died in 78 and, it was about three or four months
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FG: from the church came to visit us with a pillow. My mother had left in the pew, and
whenever she sat there she would use that pillow. I guess she just left it in the church
seat. I just think that its something, that they returned the pillow to us and, that pillow
was grabbed by one of my sons and he still has it. That's one of my memories at the
Presbyterian Church. My mother loved it and I think it was her responsibility to call
people and organize different meetings. My father died years ago and my mother loved to
call so she could talk to the husband of these people. She like to raise a little bit of rouges
with some of the women and she did it. (Laughter).
HP: D.W. William's, were Presbyterian.
FG: O.K., the name is familiar.
DJ: Do you remember much about any of the other churches in the area and, some of the
outline communities?
FG: Where do you go to church at?
KR First Methodist.
• FG: Here's a First Methodist right here.
KR: I didn't think I was going to be answering questions. (Laughter)
FG: Turn your name tag around so he can get it.
DJ: We had a lot of interaction to do with First Methodist over there at the Northgate
because we were back to back.
HP: And church of Christ was right across the street
DJ: And the Catholic Church and the Lutheran Church there so.
GT: It was close communion there.
HP: Christian Science, cause that's what my mother says I'm a natural born Christian
scientist because I don't like to take medicine. (Laughter).
DJ: How did the church all wind up together there? Was it just a natural thing? Did the
churches come first or did the name come first of the street?
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GT: I wouldn't know that for sure, but I would think that the churches were there and,
they automatically name it Church street.
DJ: Did the churches ever get together and do things like with the youth groups and
several different churches.
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DJ: Cause I remember in the 70's when I lived in the apartments that were right there
Casa Del Sol and, I know they had volleyball games on Wednesday's evening at the
different services had broken up at the (Inaudible) that had a volleyball. Do you ever
remember much about the outlining churches, and some of the outlining communities.
You said ya'll associated with Calvert and your priest still go up to Calvert. Do you
remember much about some of the other, perhaps influential preachers or whatever in the
area?
HP: I remember between Camp Creek and New Baden there was a little church that sat
out by itself and, I had reservation about buying the lot at Camp Creek because I knew
that it was weekend at Camp Creek or going to church. But when I saw this old church
. sitting there and they only had people there on Sunday's. I went to that church a number
of times. It was really a country one room church, and I enjoyed that very much.
DJ: What was the name of the church?
HP: I can't remember, but it was Baptist of course. But I did feel better about going
there on Sunday rather than staying up at the lake cottage.
DJ: Do you remember much any of the churches outside of the towns?
TD: Rock Prairie. Seem like it was a church down on Rock Prairie. I can recall some
youth meetings some churches that went back and forth. The youth of my church would
go down to Rock Prairie and have programs.
DJ: Mrs. Gladys do you remember?
GT: I grew up in Kurten as a Freewill Baptist well like I said there was a Missionary
Baptist. One Sunday we had a preacher at our church and the nerd Sunday at their
church. We met and just had Sunday School and the churches were real close and, anyway
they don't even have a Baptist Church out there anymore.
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BK: Wasn't Vacation Bible School always a time when Baptist attempted to get all the
children in the neighborhood involved in church program?
GT: Yes, I think some of the rural churches still do that like Grimes County, and Lions.
DJ: Did ya'll ever have Vacation Bible School and summer programs? What do you
remember about those? Mr. Gardener.
FG: Well my children went to a lot of different churches of vacation bible school and it
was a Baptist church here in College Station for years that our children attended. Quite a
program. They went to Lutheran, Roman Catholic, they went to St. Thomas different
years. This year I know St. Thomas is combining with St. Anthony's and I don't know
what other churches are involved. But my children have now out -grown that and my
grandchildren are not in this town and that's as far as I know about. I know vacation bible
school is a summer league program city wide. It is very good.
HP: When I was superintendent of the Beginner Department at the Vacation Bible
School we would plant something and watched it grow. In little cartons and I forgot if it
was a bean or something.
• DJ: Beans were so easy to grow. (Laughter). What other type of things did the do?
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DJ: That's what I'm thinking of
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TD: In 1946 a group of the older people in the church think it was several, and two or
three of us were seen over the older students, we went to Ridge Crest Baptist, there seems
like it was about eighteen of us went from A &M and there were some from Baylor and
we just had a great week in Ridge Crest, North Carolina. And Texas had alone four
hundred representatives that would have there meals and two sessions and, since we had
the most people they would always put us in first sessions. So
TD: we could eat first. Then all the girls that went with all those students and boys with
there uniforms on when they found out that we knew some Aggies. Everyone wanted to
meet us. So they could meet Aggies through us. So we had a great, great time!
DJ: And this was Ridge Crest North Carolina?
TD: It was in June and we nearly froze to death. One of the students who had been there
before said, "all of you take your jackets ". We all just sort of laughed, you know how hot
in June it is here. We just kind of laughed, "he said" take your jacket, you must take
something warm ". We would get up and put on our shoes and socks and then put on our
slacks and then go to Sun rise service. It was so cold that we put on almost anything we
could get on. (Laughter) I never will forget how cold it was but, we made it to all of the
. services. Had a great time. We were in a cabin where the hot water heater wouldn't work
all the time. We would have to take cold baths. That was not fun.
DJ: Did they have any church summer camps around here, as far as anything that was
associated? I know we're where I lived was a summer camp at (Inaudible) and at a
Baptist church. Was there any summer camps like that around this area that the younger
people went to?
GT: I think there were but, I can't think of any.
FG: I think there are now but, years ago I don't know. Camp Allen belongs to
(Inaudible) of Texas. It's over 800 acres facility down in Navasota that is really well
used in the summer months.
DJ: In fact if I remember right Camp Huett is left over from World War II. It was part of
the military. Military took it over and then (Inaudible).
BK: Military never did take it over. Camp Huett was there.
DJ: Did anyone from here ever go down there? Did you ever take trips like that? Do
things like that with your church?
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HP: Isn't the Fish Camp at a church?
DJ: That's in Mexia.
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GT: That was a Methodist encampment there, where they have Fish Camp.
DJ: Is there anything else you can remember about your church or stories you remember
you would like to share?
HP: Well, I was blessed to be able to donate items when we moved First Baptist of
College Station to Welsh Avenue. They were talking about the things that they needed
and, since I couldn't even hum very good and my daddy always wanted me to play the
piano. Anyway so I thought it would be a nice thing more less in memory of my father to
give the organ to the church, and I was proud of that.
DJ: Mrs. Gladys do you have anything that you would like to add that you can think oP
• GT: Nothing special.
FG: It's just something you go to and you assume it's there whenever you need it.
TD: That's right.
FG: I bet I get a lot of comments from this one. George, Huebner is in the process of
writing the history of St. Thomas. Our church was dedicated in 1938 quite a while ago,
but he said the history goes back even further. The director in Rockdale the Rev. J.P.
Love way back in the 30's, had raised $4,0000 to help hold church for what he called
"Them Heathen Aggies" Religious chapel services were held on the A &M campus in the
early 1920's. The various denominations had services in separate groups usually as clubs.
Were talking about the 1920's and so in seventy years we've come along way in provided
religious services, spiritual services for the students.
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HP: Well, I would like to mention I don't know what year it was, but the black people
built a Baptist Church on Holleman and, we had the Marion Pugh Lumber Company and
so we built the church for them and I think it is still there and they still meet there every
Sunday. I don't know what year that would have been but, I know when they finished the
church my husband said well I want to give them something to show that I appreciate that
they had us to built it for them. So we gave them song books. I don't' know, I wrote a
scripture in each song book before we delivered it to them and, it was John 3 :16 but, I
was just wondering if they were still using those books. (Laughter). At St. Matthews
Baptist Church right on Holleman.
DJ: Yea, right by the Lincoln Center. So your husband helped built that church?
HP: Yea, he was the builder.
DJ: And when was that built?
HP: I don't remember. It must have been in the 50's or 60's, I can't remember.
DJ: Is there anything you would like to add Mrs. Theo, something you can think of?
• TD: Well it's been more than 55 years ago I think it's more things you forget
(Laughter). I didn't know that I would be called to remember all of this. (Laughter).
FG: I don't know if any of you are from out of Texas at all, but my wife and I are not
from this part of the country. We were married in Medford, Massachusetts at a Episcopal
Church in 1949. A couple of years ago we went back to see the church we married in. It
was a beautiful stone structure. The wind is not going to blow it down, I guarantee you.
But we went in and, the church itself the inside is in need of a great deal of repair. We
visited several churches in the Northeastern areas and found a general need of facility
repair. I think were really in a fortunate situation in Texas and this part of the country
where spiritual growth is really something we expect. We look forward to it and we
benefit from it. My heart goes to the people in some of these places that my wife and I
grew up in where the spiritualism is not as active as it should be. We are very pleased
with what we have here, but at the same time our heart goes out to facilities that we saw.
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DJ: It also seems that in doing the background work for this because I was on the
committee. It also seems that there has been especially in resent years a great interest in
church history. You said that ya'll have written or in the process of writing a church
history?
FG: No, right now George, is presenting it at another one of these meetings. I came to
hear him talk.
DJ: And I know that St. Mary's, ya'll are doing it as well?
GT: The First Baptist is in the process of doing their history.
DJ: And St. Mary's is also in the process of doing a history. I do know that. Most of
there congregation, of course, is under the age of twenty -five. They have been very
interested in I know working with the Diocese in doing a history that they want to have
complete by the time they have there Student Center built. It seems like there's a lot of
interest in the church history. I know that Washington Chapel Baptist Church the black
Baptist Church on Texas is working on there history and Pleasant Grove I believe is
working something up because they got there (100th) reunion coming up, and there (100
• years old).
HP: Is that on Texas Avenue?
DJ: No, it's over on Detroit. It's back in that area off of Holleman. Now Washington
Chapel is much older is well inexcessive over (100 years old) as well. I want to say 18 or
19, 1 don't remember when it was but, there in the process of writing the history of the
church. That's interesting not only has the interest continued but, there also seems to be a
interest in the history in maybe preserving some of the history of the church.
HP: Another thing that we have I guess you call it a program Intercessory Prayer. With
our little chapel it's just darling, and that's an addition to our church.
DJ: And what type of chapel was that again?
HP: Its Intercessory Prayer and, its just a darling little simple one room building with an
entry hall and two stain glass windows that was on the same grounds as our church.
FG: You know another area that's not associated with any particular church is a Break
Away Group. I've got a granddaughter and a grandson involved. It started out with just
a couple of Aggies over in a room and, now there talking about every week 2,000 or
more. Aggie students get together and its not a denominational. They meet at a Baptist
Church.
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DJ: They meet at Central Baptist because its the only place that's big enough to hold
them and, they actually have two different sessions because they've gotten so big and, they
can't have one session anymore.
FG: I tell both of my grandchildren that its great as long as it doesn't take the place of
there normal worship service, and it doesn't. They just get together and enjoy and
evening of spirituality. My goodness 2.000 Aggies getting together that's a lot! I say the
Aggies, but it's just that age group.
DJ: And what's interesting its completely just students lead.
FG: They put out CD's and tapes of there music. You've never heard of it?
KR: No.
DJ: It's very, very interesting. I found out about it by accident actual going to a meeting
one day at Central Baptist for something else that we had a discussion group in the Life
Center and it was like on a Tuesday, I believe it was. I go to the church and there's like a
parking lot full of cars and its like 8:00 at night. What are all these people doing on
Tuesday night and, at 8:00 that's what it was. The Break Away Group.
• GT: I don't know whether this, is really history but, in our church well in all the Baptist
Churches in this area has what they call a Discovery Program this is for international
student wives and their children and I think we've had it for about fifteen -years or more
like twenty. Anyway that's a real good program in our church. They have different
interest groups. One of the main things is language. We have English teachers who teach
English and beginners English and Advance English
TD: Sometime they even teach them how to shop.
GT: Yes, and take them around to the hospitals and to the different things they need to
get aquatinted with in the community.
DJ: Sounds like an interesting program. Well if there's anything else before we rap this
up? I think we covered just about everything.
FG: Well here's a Methodist. What have we said that doesn't apply to the Methodist?
(Laughter).
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KR: Everything is just totally, I mean just totally different. I was African Methodist
Episcopal before I came here. My mother came here, well the church I go to is First
United Methodist which is right by Washington Chapel where my Pastor is Rev. Polk, Sr.
and I like the church, well I think all churches should be like this. You should come
which ever way you are dressed, whatever way you look. You know you come to lift up
just one person. God said it doesn't matter how you should come as long as you listen to
the word.
FG: That's right.
KR: What I like about it is the first time I went there my pastor took off his tie, he took
off his jacket and just said "come as you are ". I like it because we can wear jeans, it
doesn't matter what you look like and you know we have a mixed congregation. Were
having more A &M students come now. I think he is trying to reach more of the young
kids because some of the people we have, have been there for such a long time. You
know it's not that many Methodist Churches in College Station or Bryan, so its pretty
hard for us to inter -act with different churches. I think so many of us are caught up in this
is what Methodist do, this is what Baptist do, this is what Pentecostal do.
DJ: One of the things I don't know if any of you have heard this but, it wasn't that long
• ago but, when St. Thomas Aquinas, we built actually a sanctuary church which opened,
I'm trying to think. It must have been about 19911 believe it was. We finished the church
out on the bypass. We finished it a week early before the Cardinal came. We had the
Cardinal come to bless the church for the first service. But the week before we finished
early. We actually got the organ in, we have a pipe organ we decided to do something
special a little bit special. All of the churches and all of the congregations were invited for
a service, and in fact St. Thomas I can't remember what his name was he was the Youth
Chaplain gave a organ concert on the pipe organ he and Father Pat Zorick, both just
played beautifully for about an hour in a half and we had probably about twen different
p astors I think it was about seven or eight denominations and a church full of people of all
denominations and colors We had a prayer service which was a really interesting concept
to do. I don't think that has been done here in the recent past. That was a interesting
evening because people kind of stuck together and weren't quite sure how to interact with
each other at the beginning of the evening. By the time the concert was over and a short
prayer service was over and we started into the Perish Hall to look at all the food that we
had to share that it was a really nice experience and that it was kind of like I said a
interesting thing that we had all of the different churches. I want to say I know it was a
row that they did a half circle on the alter area and as close as they could get the church
together that's how many pastors they had. It had to be at least twelve or fifteen pastors
together from all the different churches in College Station so that was kind of interesting.
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Well I would like to thank you all for coming and participating and what will be doing is
will be getting back together with you to let you look at the transcript. It does take a
while to get these done, like I said its not the easiest thing in the world. Its not the easiest
thing to type something up from a tape. What they'll do is send it to you if you could
End of Session.
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contents of this oral history interview. Also, permission is hereby given for any duplications of
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parties hereto, and any loss of or damage to property, whether the same be that either of the parties
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