HomeMy WebLinkAboutFaculty and Staff Panel 7Ann Connor interviewing Polly Kent whose husband,
Jack Kent, was a math professor at Texas A &M
University
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February 20, 2000
AC -Ann Connor (moderator)
PK -Polly Kent (interviewee)
Interview:
1.
AC: Polly, where were you prior to coming to A &M?
PK: We lived at Russellville, Arkansas and Jack was uh, uh
in the math department at Arkansas Poly Technical College
there at Russellville.
AC: What brought you to A &M?
PK: Uh, he got uh umm special, he got an offer to come to
A &M that was so much better than what we had uh there at
Arkansas Tech that we were delighted to come.
AC: Okay and what year was that?
PK: This was in 1936 in October.
AC: Okay and how was Jack recruited? How did they
contact him?
PK: They contacted Ohio State, the head of the department
did and uh asked for a recommendation. Jack was
reviewing his exams for his Ph.D. Now this was at the
heighth of the Depression, he had to leave Ohio State and
go at once to Jackson, Tennessee to take care of his family,
his mother, and his Aunt and Uncle who actually reared
him. He had to go and get a job and help them out because
his Uncle had been working for John Deer. They had laid
off some of their long time salesmen and Uncle Dick was
laid off so Jack had to go and help out.
AC: So he he went to help out with them and then how did
somebody from A &M contact him?
PK: Mr. Porter, head of the math department at A &M,
called Ohio State and asked them to recommend someone
that was near a Ph.D or knew someone and they
recommended Jack and that's how we came down here.
AC: Okay and what was his salary when he came here?
PK: Oh his salary was uh about three hundred dollars a
year more than it was at Tech. At Tech he made a hundred
dollars a month and when we came down here we made
fifteen hundred dollars a year plus he got one summer
session of six weeks teaching. This gave him three hundred
dollars more making our salary eighteen hundred.
AC: So was there any other benefits with this job or was it
just strictly salary?
PK: There were no other benefits no insurance or anything
like that in fact he had a very difficult time finding a place
to live. There was one apartment that still stands at the
North Gate but it was for bachelor teachers only and so it
was all full. So Mr. Porter finally found us a cute little
cottage on Dexter St. that we lived in for three years.
It was just a delightful little place.
AC: Is that still standing?
PK: It's still standing. It belonged to Professor Lamar
McNew in Civil Engineering
AC: Did you have any children when you moved here?
PK: No, we were just married in May.
AC: Okay.
PK: We came here in October.
AC: So it was big enough for the two of you at the time?
PK: Just right for two.
AC: Just right for two, okay. Where did Jack work, what
was the name of the building, where he worked?
PK: He worked in the Academic building, the one with the
dome on top and the bulb sticking way up high. It was
called Prexis Moon. The light in the dome could be seen for
a distance of almost fifteen miles, coming from Houston
from the time you got to Wellborn Road. It was on a hill
and you could see Prexis Moon.
AC: Okay, of course that's still there on campus?
PK: It's still there.
AC: Right, how did Jack get to work did he walk, did he
ride a bike, did he drive?
PK: No he drove from where we were living, he drove most
of the time, he could walk, and did walk some or I would
take him if I needed the car.
AC: Could you describe his work?
PK: Yes he taught, now I don't know how many classes he
taught but every single class was Freshman Algebra the
first year.
AC: And so what did he do the next year then?
PK: Oh I don't remember.
AC: Uh you did tell me in our conversations before here
that he had a hobby that he really enjoyed so tell me about
that, and how did he use that at A &M?
PK: He had an extreme interest in astronomy. He went to
Yerkes Observatory, part of the University of Chicago, for
two full successive summers and then this led to a weekly
radio lecture on popular astronomy at the first radio station
in BCS, KORA radio. He was later granted a Ford
foundation fellowship to study astronomy (advanced). He
spent half his time teaching math and half his time in the
Astro Physics department.
AC: I know you had mentioned to me also that he had
students that would come over to his house and use his
telescope, tell me about that.
PK: That was a freshman course, a general course in
astronomy, where they learned the constellations and about
the heavens. They would come atleast twice during the
semester to the backyard once in the Fall when they had the
meteor shower the Pleides. They drew star maps, put in the
constellations and became very familiar with the heavens
and really learned a lot of just general astronomy and many
of his students followed on through to Astrophysics and
went on to work for the government.
AC: Hmm, interesting very interesting. Um you also
mentioned to me that he used to lecture some of the
community. When Jack did these lectures I remember one
particular story that he had a theory of life on other planets
and what was that all about?
PK: He was lecturing I think at the Kiwanis Club to a large
group of people. Dr. Gilchrist, who was president of A &M
at the time and also a member of our Church, A &M
Methodist. He came up to Jack and said "Jack, that was a
very interesting lecture but you must be kidding to think
that there could be life of any kind on any other planets out
there." Jack studied everything he could get his hands on.
A lot of astronomers' visions of life was some kind on
other planets. It might be nothing more than just a mass or
just something low life. He also lived to see the walk on the
moon.
AC: Well I bet that was an exciting day for him?
PK: Yeah, right.
AC: Okay so you had mentioned to me that he did teach in
the summer, did he teach all summers or just certain ones?
PK: Oh no, he didn't teach all summers, he would teach six
weeks.
AC: What did he do the rest of the summer?
PK: We traveled.
AC: Oh you traveled?
PK: We would visit observatories on the East Coast and
also on the West Coast, and we would talk to the professors
who were so pleased that Jack was trying to get the word
out to a mechanical and agricultural college that there was
more to life that raising beef cows and being an engineer,
but it took a long time for it to be accepted here.
AC: Okay tell me a little bit about College Station when
you moved here. As we know College Station now what
was it like, was there any shopping area?
PK: Well College Station was more like Snook, not much
bigger than Snook I'm just kidding, but compared to what
it is now. They had the North Gate for the student, there
was absolutely no alcohol allowed in the Brazos County.
None! Students were not allowed to have cars on the
campus.
AC: So, what was North Gate like?
PK: It was pretty much what it is now. Loupot's was where
it is now. On down was Charlie's Grocery and down from
that was a a little Cafe. They had a movie theatre and a
drug store across the street. Also there was Holik's Boot
Shop that made the Senior boots.
PK: Well they had another grocery store down called
Luke's Grocery Store, and that was the social meeting
place of the ladies in the morning. We went there to get
groceries and visit.
AC: So is that where you went shopping or were there any
other shopping areas?
PK: Luke's and the Charlie's those were the only two
grocery stores.
AC: You didn't go into Bryan?
PK: No.
AC: Well Bryan would have been where you would have
gone as far as clothing.
PK: Well Bryan was too far!
AC: Oh really?
PK: Yes! Well I tell you Ann, we didn't do a whole lot of
shopping for clothes. You must remember this was in the
height of the Depression and we just made do with what we
had, and everybody else was doing the same thing so you
didn't realize you were all that poor. You were so doggone
happy and you just you forgot about the hardships.
AC: So what was Texas Avenue like, in front of the
campus?
PK: It was a two -lane road one going into Bryan and one
coming back.
AC: Was there anything on the other side of Texas Avenue
from campus or was it just kind of dead land?
PK: There was a grocery store and a meat market at the
four way stop at University Drive and Texas, where the
Shamrock gas station is now. From the grocery store to
Eastgate there were little cottages inhabited by employees
of A &M.
AC: When your children were school age, were they
educated on campus or did they go to another school or
where did they go?
PK: They were educated at Consolidated Elementary.
AC: Did you have a choice to send them to Bryan or
College Station?
PK: Oh yes, we did.
AC: You did. Did you work outside the house?
PK: I taught school, second grade.
PK & AC (together): At Consolidated.
PK: Yes and it was where the Community Center is now I
think there are still some of the buildings that we taught in
being that they were wooden buildings and they
accommodated two classrooms per building. We had four
second grade teachers so that was two buildings. Then they
had built a cafeteria and Mrs. Creswell was the principal.
Special Ed was introduced into our school and I was asked
to teach it.
AC: You never worked on campus yourself?
PK: No.
AC: What about entertainment on campus, do you know
anything about that?
PK: Uh they had entertainment.
AC: Parties, movies, or anything?
PK: Well they had Guine Hall and that was, that's where
the student body all met for general meetings and the dram
a department would hold plays there not like OPAS. They
had a committee in charge of bringing to College Station
certain artists and most of them were musicians or singers.
AC: Do you remember any plays?
PK: Uh no I'm afraid I don't.
AC: Well okay was there anything else as far as
entertainment on campus?
PK: Well of course there was lots and lots of bridge playing
and then there was just getting together with the
department, some departments were big and they were just
like a family. Our department was like a family too but we
didn't see each other as much as some of the other
departments did.
AC: When you did get together what did you do?
PK: Well mostly we just visited...
AC: Visited?
PK: ...Or played bridge. They had a study club, where we
discussed books.
AC: Did you have dinners together or?
PK: Oh yes, oh yes we had lots of that.
AC: Was it like a pot luck dinner or did they serve you?
PK: Oh uh sometimes it was pot luck and sometimes you
brought out your best china and your best linen and it was
really nice.
AC: Now was that on campus or was it in...
PK: No uh it was in the home
AC: In the home, okay. What were the holidays like, did
people stay here for the holidays or did they go...
PK: Oh they left.
AC: They left?
PK: Yeah
AC: Even, I mean like families did.
PK: Yeah
AC: Really?
PK: Well I don't know we always left
AC: Oh you did? I guess it was it's kind of like it is now so
many people have their families somewhere else.
PK: Yeah,
AC: I have one question here. The Annual A &M
employees campus parties that was in the hall in the
YMCA, do you know anything about that?
PK: I really don't.
AC: No okay, um did you ever entertain students here?
PK: Oh yes, oh yes.
AC: and what..
PK: Well we did not cook out. It was usually one of the
astronomy classes because they were small. I think we've
had as many as thirty here, and we just we would just buy
the chicken already prepared and just two or three huge
salads and several kinds of cake and you know tea or punch
or coffee, whatever. It was just fun getting together and we
would use that backyard a lot.
AC: I remember you telling me that since it was an all male
school a lot of the times some of the girls from other
schools would come here...
PK: Yes
AC: ... and that you had them sleep here?
PK: Well the boys would ask the professors if they had
room to keep their girl friend on Saturday night for our
dance and then they would have to take them back to
school the next day. So this was a pretty big house we
hadn't finished the upstairs then but we did have a guest
room and we had a roll away bed we called it a studio
couch that opened up into a double bed in the library.
(Tape ran out)
AC: Okay so you were talkin' about the boys bringing their
girlfriends?
PK: The mothers were very concerned about where the
girls were staying since there were no hotels. So the girls
would stay in private homes.
AC: So you were telling me about the uh cold.
PK: Oh I was.
AC: I like this story so I want you to tell me about it.
PK: The girls wouldn't get in from the dance until one
o'clock and they would be just frozen stiff at night. You
know they stayed just as long as they could but they had
chaperones at the dance too and so they saw that when time
came to say uh goodnight they played the goodnight song
and they knew to leave. Well I would have a hot water
bottle in the bed for the girls
AC: I think that's a neat story. What about the football
games, were they as popular as they are today?
PK: They were very popular but Jack and I also liked
baseball. I think it was because of the time of the year, it
was just wonderful just sitting on the bleachers watching
the baseball game. We bought tickets to everything and we
enjoyed the football. It was exciting and I loved to see the
band march and execute all of these figures but we
particularly loved baseball.
AC: Well good, do you remember what teams that they
played as far as schools?
PK: Well they played Texas, Arkansas, SMU, TCU, North
Texas and it seems like they played Louisiana but I'm not
really sure.
AC: Pretty much what they played today?
PK: Yeah, they don't play Arkansas today, the rest of them
though, they pretty much do.
AC: What was it like during World War II on campus,
what, how, did it effect life on campus?
PK: Well it was pretty rough. You had to have coupon
books for just about everything you bought. You had to
ration. It was a somber time.
AC: Did it affect the recruiting as far as faculty or students
do you know, the war, did it take away from.
PK: Oh, that was one of the saddest things I have ever seen
in my life. The final review that the seniors made before
they were shipped overseas and I didn't know but I was
told several of them didn't come back, we had lost a good
many. Oh it was just it was dreadful, it was terrible.
AC: Was it hard to get faculty during the war or was the
faculty still okay here?
PK: Yeah it was okay.
AC: It was okay. What about Franklin Roosevelt's visit to
campus, were you here then?
PK: But uh, it was a very emotional time.
AC: Now when was this, what year, do you remember?
PK: I don't remember.
AC: Um what about any news services on campus did they
have a newspaper?
PK: Oh yes they had the Batallion, it was a good one too.
Of course it's nothing like it is now. It's just a real
newspaper now and there were lots of things that they
didn't print then that they do now.
AC: It seems like you were a real part of this area you grew
up here when it was nothing and look at it today.
PK: Yes it's almost unbelievable.
AC: I kind of chuckled when you said that you lived out in
the country I don't even think of this as being country.
PK: We were really in the country then.
AC: Uh so your house was the first one built in here?
PK: The first one built in Beverly Estates and it was a
surprise when people would be driving around and see the
sign saying Beverly Estates and a new gravel road. One
Sunday afternoon when they were just driving I remember
one time uh a car stopped that just couldn't believe that
they had come up on a house and when they stopped there
another one driving very slowly was doing the same thing
they were just oggoling the house and their bumpers just
bumped.
AC: Oh my! Do they still call it the Beverly Estates...?
PK: Yes
AC: I never have heard that, where's that, all I ever hear is
North or South Rosemary?
PK: It used to be called nothing but Beverly Estates.
AC: Oh okay, I didn't know that. Well I certainly
appreciate your time and if there's anything else that you
think you could add to this, I'd be more than happy to
listen.
PK: I've talked my head off.
AC: You've talked your head off, well you've given us a
really good story so I really appreciate it. Thank You very
much.
PK: Well Thank You Ann.
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Ara Lee Jones, a native of
Temple, came to the A &M
campus with misgivings in the
fall of 1913.
Midway through a six -month
course of study at a Waco
business college, she had been
pressured by the owner of the
school to accept a secretarial
position in the agronomy
department of the college.
Having borrowed money to go
to school, being 18 and coming
from a strict family the idea of
coming to A &M was
questionable and somewhat
frightening.
Permission was granted by
her family only because she had
a close friend in Bryan in whose
home she could stay.
SHE RECALLS a trying
period from September 1914 to
February 1915 when she and
everyone at the college, in-
cluding the president, worked
but received no pay.
The state of Texas was without
funds and until money could be
appropriated no one at A &M
received paychecks. However,
she said, it was a shared ex-
perience and everyone survived
because credit was extended by
Bryan businessmen. She
remembers the great rejoicing
when paychecks — including the
back pay— arrived.
In 1914 , she met Frederick
William Hensel, always called
`Fritz' by all who knew him, who
had been on a year's leave to
take a master's degree at
MRS. F. W. HENSEL
Cornell. She and Hensel married
one year later.
Following a brief stay in a
Bryan apartment the Hensels
moved into campus housing
provided by A &M for faculty
members.
THE HENSEL HOME was
located where the Memorial
Student Center now stands and
while not lavish was more than
adequate and comfortable. The
six room house with small
servant's space rented for $25
per month including utilities and
maintenance.
In 1939 the college announced
that within two years all campus
housing for faculty members
would terminate. The Hensels
built a home as close to the
campus as possible because
"Fritz didn't want to be one foot
way from the campus."
It is Hensel, then a professor of
floraculture and landscape
architecture, who receives much
of the credit for the abundance of
trees and landscaping on the
campus.
For example, it was his model
for planting of the present main
entrance to the school that was
acceptd by the board of directors
when the Systems Building was
constructed on land previously
housing livestock barns and
pasture.
MRS. HENSEL remembers
some objections to the small live
oak seedlings planted by her
husband. However, he main-
tained they were planted for
posterity with beauty rather
than quick growth but short life.
Looking back to her early
years on campus she terms the
time a quiet, happy way of life.
There was little entertainment
except being with people but
there were not many problems.
"We had the happiest life. We
didn't know we didn't have
everything."