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CITY OF COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS
Planning and Zoning Commission
September 1, 1983
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESf=NT: Vice Chairman Miller, Kelly, Hansen, Martyn ~ Bailey
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Hill and Member Kaiser
STAFF PRESENT: Director of Planning Mayo, Asst. Director of Planning Callaway, City
Engineer Pullen, Zoning Official Kee, Planning Assistant Longley, Asst.
Zoning Official Dupies and Planning Technician Volk
AGENDA ITEM N0, 1: Approval of Minutes - meeting of August 22, 1983
Mr, Hansen made a motion to approve the minutes with Mr. Martyn seconding. Motion carried
unanimously (5-0).
AGENDA ITEM N0. 2: Hear Visitors
No one spoke.
AGENDA ITEM N0. 3~ A public hearing to consider the annexation of an area of approximately
3800 acres located generally along the State Highway 6 corridor for a distance of approxi-
mately 3.5 miles south of Rock Prairie Road and along the Rock Prairie Road corridor for
a distance of approximately 5 mites south of State Highwav 6.
Mr. Mayo referred to a map on the wall, explaining the areas shown in yellow and blue repre-
sent land for which petitions for annexation have been received. The pink areas indicate
land for which no petitions for annexation have been received, but represent areas in which
development is likely to occur and have been included in the plan for annexation. He
pointed out that since this map was developed, the Fire Department has indicated that
the proposed City limits line would be so irregular that it would be difficult for
that department or the police department to service, and would recommend that the City
limit line have a more regular pattern. Staff has no recommendation to cover this
suggestion at this time, but will offer more information at the City Council public hear-
ing next week. He said the total annexation would constitute 3850 acres and this would
represent 24.$% of the present City limits. He stated there are approximately 10 businesses
in this area currently, and annexation would allow more land use control regarding develop-
ment. He then referred to a Service Plan which is available on the table~.at the rear of
the room, Discussion followed from the Commission, after which Mr. Miller explained
that prior to the public hearing, he would be limiting each speaker to approximately 5
minutes before the Commission, and that the Commission requests that repetition of
subjects be avoided, He further explained that annexation does not take place tonight,
and also that this Commission has no authority to annex land, but rather the actual
annexation will be in the hands of the City Council. Mr. Mayo briefly explained what
takes place and referred again to the service plan available to the public. He touched
on water lines, proposed package sewer treatment plants, the electrical plan, and then
• stated that although those services would not be available immediately to the newly
annexed area, police protection, fire protection, garbage collection and ambulance service
would be available immediately. Mr. Bailey asked when taxation would begin, but Mr. Mayo
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was not able to furnish that information.
• Bill Greenen, General Manager of General Telephone came forward to explain that telephone
service will be provided to the area as development occurs. "Mr. Miller referred the
public to the telephone company if they have any questions, because that company is a
private entity, and the City has no connection to it.
The public hearing was opened. Proponents for the annexation were called and no one spoke.
Opponents were called, and the following people came forward to speak:
1. Anther Oden, Rt. 3, College Station - referred to a statement concerning development
along Rock Prairie Road, asking Mr. Mayo for clarification. Mr. Mayo explained that
the statement was made in error, and that most of the development is along Hwy. 6.
2. John Otts - asked why the Nantucket Subdivision is not being included and Mr. Mayo
explained that there is already a developed subdivision there and either all of that
subdivision should be annexed, or none of it, and at this point, staff recommends
stopping before getting that far south. Mr. Otts then complained that the City has
been burning brush and leaving it without supervision at night, causing a hazard.
He also asked when the City had plans to add a Fire Department substation, and Mr.
Mayo replied that would take place as development demands it. Mr. Ott then con-
tended that the existing volunteer fire department gives faster response than an
emergency vehicle from within the current City limits.
3. Don Arnold, Rt. 6 - agreed with the City Fire Department that the second line for the
proposed City limits would be better than that originally shown. He then asked Mr.
• Mayo a question regarding strip development, and Mr. Mayo referred to the proposed
Comprehensive Plan land use map, and pointed out that it does not indicate strip
commercial development down the highway, but rather larger type developments.
4, Sill Harris, Rt. 6 - asked about development along the highway, and Mr. Mayo explained
that the plan shows commercial, administrative-professional or higher density resi-
dential development along the Highway at major intersections. Mr. Harris asked what
is planned to go between these larger shopping centers and Mr. Miller referred to the
Comprehensive Plan which shows some low density residential development along the
highway. Mr. Harris asked what would be allowed in Agriculture-Open zoned areas, and
if he would be allowed to continue junking cars on his land. He then suggested the
annexation stop at Green"s Prairie Road, and stated that he doesn't think he needs
the City in his location, and further that there is already good police and fire
protection.
5. Jim Gardner, 1216 N. Ridgefield - stated he is concerned with the motive behind the
annexation.. He referred to the phases of annexation proposed and questioned the
legality of such phasing. He stated he is against any annexation of this magnitude
as, in his opinion, it is not warranted, and asked if there are any supporting mater-
ials for high tech development in this area. Mr. Kelly said he did not think this
is the point to be covered, and general discussion followed. Mr. Gardner then
referred to compact, orderly growth as good planning practice, and stated that this
proposed annexation would stimulate the opposite kind of growth. He asked what the
phasing period of highways, etc. would be, and stated definitely that he still objects
to the proposed area included in this annexation.
• 6, Michael Murphy, 305 Pershing - stated that he is against this annexation for several
reasons, citing one being the cost of running the city now, and referred to the
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partial defeat of the bond election as a result of this opinion, as well as the
• type of "leap-frog" development which would result. He then mentioned that the
cost of sewer treatment plans is very high, and although the cost has not been
discussed, he would like to be furnished with more information along these lines.
7. Cindy Crater, Rt. 6 - asked if her home, which is now under construction, would have
to have a building permit and Mr. Miller replied that it would not, since construction
has already begun. She asked if her family would still be able to hunt on their own
property, and Mr.~Miller answered by referring to the law regarding prohibition of
firing fire arms within the City limits.
8. Duane Cote, 302 W. Dexter - referred to a large tract of land which is outlined in
yellow and asked who the owner of that tract is and Mr. Mayo replied that the
acreage in question is owned by JAC developers. Mr. Cote then referred to the
"doughnut hole" in the center which is not included in the proposed annexation and
Mr. Mayo said that area is owned by several different people, and that they had been
notified because the proposed annexed land is adjacent to their land, but that he
had not heard from any of those people. Mr, Cote made a plea for common sense to
rule over civic ego when addressing proposed annexation of land.
9. David Pugh, 1200 Timm - asked if this plan is predicated on the assumption of results
being a positive cash flaw. He then asked what the cost of infrastructure would be
and Mr. Mayo replied that he does not have those figures. Mr. Pugh asked what the
cost of the extension of lines to the 2300 acres at the furthest point south would
be and Mr. Mayo said there would be no extension of sewer tines from the current
City limits south, but rather a plant would be built toward the southern edge
• of the proposed annexation and sewer lines would go from this point back toward
the current C1ty limits, and further indicated that a package treatment plant is
being planned in Phase 1. Mr. Pugh asked what would happen if this plant is not
built, and what if development takes place along Texas Avenue rather than in large
chunks of development and Mr, Mayo explained that should that happen, an example
of how that is handled can be studied right now, as one developer is currently
lifting sewage back to the existing Cifiy plant. Mr. Pugh stated that it is his
opinion that the proposed annexation is an exercise in urban sprawl, and further
that too many of the costs involved are hypothetical at this time.
10. Spencer Wendt, 3011 Brothers - stated that he is involved in the development of
Tract F, which is the Shenandoah subdivision, and that the developers are covering
the cast of the sewer 11ne and will run the line one mile from the City limits to
this project. He said also that the developer is paying for a 6" gas line along
the same area to service the project. He stated that in his opinion, putting this
area on a Master Development Plan can help direct development. Someone asked from
the audience what the law is concerning services furnished to the annexed area and
Mr. Mayo replied that the law says the area must be serviced in 3 years. Mr. Wendt
went on to report that sanitary sewers are much better than percolation systems, and
further that the 2'' Wellborn water line which runs through the area is not adequate
supply for. protection, thus the cost of fire insurance will decrease. He said that
in his opinion, this proposed annexation is a good plan and is necessary as the City
is landlocked due to topographical constraints in any other direction.
11. Polly eider, Rt, 3 - stated that she is against this annexation and further, that
the Rock Prairie Church area was annexed in 1976 and still has no sewer, water or
• anything from the City.
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12. Allen Brown, 18 South Oaks Drive - asked who had been responsible for public notices
• in the newspaper and said that he had trouble locating the land from the description
given. He then staffed that he is happy that his subdivision is not included in the
proposed annexation.
13. Don Arnold came forward again to ask why the are
and Mr. Mayo explained that the intersection at
be the largest major intersection to the south,
use control.
14. Terry Jones, 910 Navarro - referred to the area
planned there, and stated he believes this is a
sa shown as Section J is being annexed,
Green's Prairie Road is likely to
and annexation would help with land
marked Section J and the development
good plan and he is in favor of it.
No one else spoke and the public hearing was closed. Mr. Miller then explained to the
public that the City is limited in the amount of land it can annex, and the inclusion
of the doughnut shaped area probably would make the total acreage exceed the allowable
area the City can annex. He further explained that this plan shows annexation along
major roads, and has been implemented for the purpose of land use control. Someone
from the audience asked what could happen in the unannexed area and Mr. Miller speculated
that major development is not likely to occur that far in from any major road.
Mr. Martyn said that he believes that he should set the record clear by stating that he
is against this proposed annexation because he thinks it is basically strip annexation
and he fears it has not been well thought out. He further thinks that City services
will not 6e extended to the far areas for years, and that the 3 year law has been a "joke"
and that it will be many years before development will get that far south of the current
• City limits. he speculated that this annexation is a means of getting the proposed high
tech park into the City limits.
Discussion followed between Commission members with opinions offered that perhaps resi-
dential development such as the Shenandoah subdivion will cease as land becomes more
valuable and tends to develop as commercial land. Mr. Hansen specifically disagreed with
this stating that he believes strip commercial development will happen without annexa-
tion, and the annexing of this land would allow at least some type of land use control.
Mr. Martyn said that he believes that this annexation would not offer anything to land-
owners in fihe area for their tax dollars. Mr. Kelly said he could not understand the
annexation along Rock Prairie Road, and would favor eliminating the area from Highway 6
along the Rock Prairie Road to Green's Prairie Road, and also the deletion of the area
on the southwest corner of Green's Prairie Road and Highway 6, and would make a motion
to that effect. Mr. Hansen seconded this motion and the motion carried by a vote of
4-1 with Martyn against.
AGENpA ITEM N0. ~: 83-708: A public hearing on the question of a conditional use permit
for a day care facility located in lease space number 5010 in Post Oak Mall. Application
is in the name of Stay N'Play.
Mr. Callaway explained the request and stated that it is very similar to a recent facility
which was approved in another shopping center and that staff recommends approval. The
question was asked if this facility has an outside door, but Mr. Callaway did not know the
answer. Public hearing was opened. No one spoke. Public hearing was closed.
• Mr. i3ailey offered the information that this space is adjacent to a fire lane, so there
would not be the parking problems which were addressed when consideration was given to
the previous request, thus the safety hazard has been r?moved. Mr. Miller asked about
ordinances and square footages required for day care facilities and Mr. Mayo pointed out
that the State regulates day care facilities. Mr, Bailey made a motion to approve the
use permit with Mr. Ke11y seconding. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
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AGENDA ITEM N0. 5: 83-231: Final Plat - Agency Records Control - 36.740 Acres
• Mr, Mayo explalned the request;, stating fihat the plat the Commission has been handed is
a revised plat which takes care of most of staff's requests, however the City still
needs a total of 20 ft. along the property line for easements. Mr. Kelly clarified by
stating there is one along Sebesfia, and the one adjacent to Foxfire belongs to Foxfire.
Mr. McClure, engineer for the project was asked to clarify, and he explained that this
has been a metes and bounds division and there can be no sale legally of the land until
it is properly platted. Mr. Pullen pointed out that the City still needs some interior
easements for water lines and would propose that all easements be shown on the plat.
He furfiher instructed that theCity Engineer must approve the easements before filing
the final plat, and that the i0 ft. easement along Foxfire must be dedicated to the
City, and musfi total 20 ft, before he will sign the plat. Discussion followed with
Mr. Kelly making a motion to recommend approval of this plat with the condition that
a 20 ft. easement is dedicated from Highway 6 along the property line to Sebesta Road.
Mr. Hansen seconded. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
AGENDA ITEM N0, 6: 83-426: Parkin Lot Plan (Revised) Southwest Crossing Office Build-
ing locafied fn the Southwest Crossing Phase III Subdivision~on Soa~thr~est Parkway.
Mr. Hansen was excused from the Commission. Mr. Mayo explalned that all PRC recommendations
have been met, therefore staff recommends approval. Mr. Kelly made a motion to approve
with PRC recommendations; Mr. Martyn seconded. Mr. Bailey discussed landscaping. Votes
were cast and motion to approve carried 4-0-1 (Hansen abstained).
AGENDA ITEM N0. 7: 83-431: Reconsideration of a Parking Lot Plan - BrazosBanc Savings
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Association o Texas ro osed ATM building located on the Exxon Service Station site at
• the corner of Texas Avenue ~ Millers Lane. Tabled at August th meeting .
Mr. Kelly made a motion to take this item off the table. Mr. Bailey seconded. Motion
carried unanimously (5-0).
Mr. Mayo reiterated that staff would recommend denial of this plan for several reasons,
including the fact that when fully developed, this will be an extremely busy site; the
amount of through traffic which will be generated will make conditions unsafe; and the
traffic flow through the already busy site will conflict with the traffic from this
proposed addition. Mr. Kelly asked how much wider Highway 6 will be and Mr. Mayo said
staff has received no definite design from the Highway Department. Mr. Kelly asked
if a deceleration lane would be beneficial and Mr. Mayo replied that he did not have the
concern of traffic on and off the site that he has for on-site circulation. Discussion
followed concerning possible changes on site to compensate for this proposed building.
Mr. Martyn said he agrees with staff's concern with overdevelopment on this site. Mr.
Kelly said he did not think this building would generate very much traffic, and presented
some figures he had gathered from studies in other cities. Mr. Hansen said he believes
this site could handle the traffic, and that the proposed plan would work. Mr. Kelly
then made a motion to approve this plan with Mr. Hansen seconding. Motion was defeated
by a vote of 2-3 with Mr. Bailey, Martyn ~ Miller voting against. Mr. Bailey then made
a motion to deny this plan with Mr. Martyn seconding. Motion to deny carried 3-2 with
Kelly ~ Hansen voting against.
AGENDA ITEM N0, 8: 83-435: Reconsideration of a Parkin Lot Plan fora Professional
Office Building located on Part of Lot 1 Lakeview Acres Tabled at August 22nd meeting
• Mr. Martyn made a motion to bring this item off the table with Mr. Bailey seconding.
Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
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• Mr, Mayo then explained the plan and located the site verbally, stating this had been
tabled for add 'rtiona) landscaping plans and all other PRC recommendation have been met,
therefore staff recommends approval. Mr. Kelly made a motion to approve with PRC recom-
mendations and 18 ft, parking spaces wifih a 2 ft, overhang on the north side of the
building. Mr, Martyn seconded, Mr. Miller asked if the motion could designate that
the crepe myrtles will be 5 gallon bucket size and the trees will be 1~" caliper;
Mr. Kelly so amended his motion and Mr. Martyn seconded the amended motion. Motion to
approve carried unanimously (5-0).
AGENDA ITEM N0, 9: 83-513: Site Plan Permit - Walden Pond Townhomes located between
FM 2818 and the extension of Southwest Parkway west of Holleman.
Mr. Mayo located the site on a map and explained, pointing out the complete phase plan,
but informing the Commission that Phase I only is being considered tonight. He stated
that all PRC recommendations have been met, therefore staff recommends approval. Mr.
Bailey asked about the note "typical existing trees" and Mr. Mayo referred to the new
landscaping plan which shows that there are groves of trees which will be saved (or
replaced should that be necessary). Discussion followed concerning what can replace a
large i2 or 18" oak that dies during construction, and Mr. Mayo agreed that there
can be no exact replacement, but staff has in the past required the replacement of 2 or
3 trees of l~" caliper for one large one, and in lieu of an ordinance to follow, staff
would recommend that this be done in the future. Mr, Miller said that 2" trees may
be required under the new ordinance and wondered which ordinance would apply to replace-
ment of these trees. Mr, Martyn said he hoped the developer would try to save all large,
existing trees possible, but should they die, further landscaping would be required.
General discussion followed after which Ralph Reser, the applicant was asked to come
• forward. He did and answered the Commission's concerns by stating that should the large
trees die, the developer would replace each one with more than one small tree. Mr.
Martyn asked if a landscape consultant had helped with the plans and Mr. Reser answered
in the affirmative, adding that solid sod is planned, Bishop ~ Associates are doing a
tree survey, and the developer hopes that all the trees shown will be saved. Mr. Bailey
asked the applicant if he was satisfied with the recommendations of the PRC and Mr:
Reser replied that he is, Mr. Bailey then made a motion to approve the site plan with
Mr, Martyn seconding. Motion carried unanimously (5-0).
AGENDA ITEM N0. l0: Proposed pamphlet for Commission meetings.
This item was postponed until a later meeting,
AGENDA iTEM N0. il: pther Business
Mr. Mayo asked that the Commission pick a date for a workshop with the Northgate Committee
and Wednesday, September 14th at 3:30 P.M. was chosen.
Mr, Mayo also reported that the City Attorney has requested that a regular time or regular
agenda item be included during which time the Chairman of the Commission signs site plans
which were approved at previous meeting. Discussion followed with the suggestion that
this will be done at a regular time, but not included as an agenda item. Request was
made that a general note to the developer on PRC reports that a revised plan which includes
the exacfi requirements of the Commission is required and must be turned in to the Planning
Deparfiment for signatures indicating approval.
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Mr. Martyn explained that his personal objection to the annexation does not reflect
• any personal problem with staff, but is only his personal opinion.
Mr. Bailey made a motion to adjourn with Mr. Hansen seconding. Motion carried unani-
mously (5-0).
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