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PRE-DESIGN CHARETTE WORKSHOP
NOON, JUNE 2, 2000
COLLEGE STATION CONFERENCE CENTER
1300 GEORGE BUSH DRIVE
Members Present: James Massey, Dennis Maloney — City Council; Kay Henryson, Phillip Kelby, Alternate
Design Review Board; Sharon Colson, WPC TIF; George Dresser, Alternate — Parks &
Recreation ..ard.
Members Absent® Marsha Sanford, Alternate — WPC TIF; Sarah Birkhold — Parks & Recreation Board;
Wayne Rife, Judith Warren, Alternate— Planning &Zoning
Staff Present: Steve : chy, Eric Pl•-ser, David Wi• - Parks & Recreation; Glenn Brown, City
Manager's Office; Frank Simoneaux, Bob Mosley - Public Works; Kelly Cole Public
Relations; Charles Wood - Economic Development; Jim Callaway, Jane Kee
Development Services; Pamela Springfield, Committee Secretary
Visitors: Tom Woodfin, TAMU Department of Landscape Architecture & Urban Planning; Mike
McClure, Kent Laza, Bob Ruth, Landscape Architect — McClure Engineering; Paul Clarke,
Jim Dunlap — Clarke & Wyndham, Inc.; Scott Shafer, TAMU/Greenways Council; Elton
Abbott, Mike Record — The Arkitex Studio, Inc.; Chara Ragland, Bill Trainor — Design
Review Board; Brian Weihausen — Kay Henryson, AIA; Lynn Mcllhaney, Mayor; Anne
Hazen, Winnie Garner—City Council
Pre-Design Charette Worksho
Call To Order: James Massey called the meeting to order with a quorum of the Wolf Pen Creek
Oversight Committee (WPC) present, at 8:16 a.m. James thanked everyone for being there. He said it
was important that everyone understood where the project was currently, and where it was going (see
graphic at front of the attached handout).
James stated that the committee's charge was to oversee the implementation of the WPC Master Plan
and keep it on track. He stated that the US Army Corps of Engineers (the Corps) had become a very
important part of the project, providing a regulatory dimension to the project. The restrictions would be
discussed. James said that at this workshop stage, the goal was to come up with ideas beyond the
regulatory limits of what the project could be. He explained that along with those limits, Tom Woodfin
of TAMU Department of Landscape Architecture & Urban Planning, would have his class do market
studies over the summer to establish who the potential users/customers of the corridor will be. Also,
Scott Shafer with the Department of Recreation, Park, and Tourism Sciences will be providing
demographic data and accessibility studies that had previously been done. All the information
combined, will help to define what could be done from Texas Avenue to the Earl Rudder Freeway. The
design charette would then be held in October.
Kay Henryson stated that she had two goals in mind for the charette (page 2- 4 of the handout)®
Get all the different groups together so that all the information meshes. Divide all participants into
four or more different groups, which would target the major areas of the whole corridor.
• After the charette is over, have something visual that could be used for marketing purposes
Kay said it was important that the goals of the charette be defined for everyone who would be
participating in it®
An overview of the City's status with the Corps was given by Kent Laza and Bob Ruth of McClure
Engineering. Throughout the process questions and concerns were raised and addressed. Tom
Woodfin also addressed the group. A summary of the workshop discussion follows:
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Conceptual Plan: The conceptual plan, which had been approved by the WPC and submitted to the
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Corps, was the result of months of negotiating - coming up with ideas that the Corps would accept
which could be developed around. It wasn't the first plan submitted® If the conceptual plan changes at
this point, McClure Engineering would have to start over.
Aquatic Environment: The Corps wants to recreate an aquatic environment along the channel:
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They want to put back as much natural vegetation as possible.
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They want the stream to flow by itself, creating pools, with natural meanders and a mud bottom ® no
channel linings or concrete®
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They want to allow sediment to pass through ® no sediment traps. Sediment is good for the aquatic
environment downstream®
US Army Cors of Engineers Design Restrictions (page 6 of handout): It was known early on
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that the Corps would be involved, when a study indicated that there were wetlands in the project (no
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endangered species). Also, any time fill or dirt work is done in a channel area of a project, the Corps
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® The comments and feedback received from the Corps after the initial conceptual plans had been
submitted, were used to develop the first four design restrictions.
• Clarification was requested on restriction #4 regarding the meaning of 7n the immediate vicinity of
the stream'. Kent stated that the restrictions were received by e-mail from the Corps representative,
however, they weren't from taken from a book that states what can and cannot be done. The
restrictions are a little •ray, but this was McClure Engineering's interpretation®
Other Design Restrictions (page 6 of handout):
• Item #1 is a City restriction created after hydrological stu•.ies of the channel were done for the
restaurant developments along Highway 30.
• Items #2 and #3 are FEMA restrictions.
Concerns:
• Risingwater from the Wolf Pen Plaza development � The developer has stated that the
development was modeled so that it will not affect the floodway by more than one foot. City staff has reviewed this extensively and agrees® McClure Engineering has expressed similar concerns to the
City and everything has been addressed® A new floodplain model has been submitted to FEMA.
• People being drawn to water/keeping children out of the stream area for safety
reasons ' The normal flow is only about 3°®4' wide and 6" deep. It will not be attractive to most
people. Will not really be able to keep children out® It's possible to have some overlook areas.
• Concerns about what was actually being developed/trading off wetlands in one area for
another The Corps is looking at this as a restoration project and the more closely their definition
of that is followed, the easier it will be to get the permit Every time the wetlands are moved, they
have to agree to the redesign.
® Developing the prof in such a way that would allow development close to the water,
and identifying areas where that could be done as soon as possible before the engineers
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get too far along '' Developing it differently would require an individual permit from the Corps and
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significant environmental assessments would have to be made. Because this is a flood area, the
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Corps advised keeping it a restoration project and not getting into individual permits. Every aspect of
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development has been considered - from a riverwalk-type project to nothing ® and development
outside and at the top of the creek was the only place the Corps was comfortable doing anything
permanent. Minimal interaction with the creek, like the bridge area between Kona's and Johnny Carino's, will be a much easier scenario to achieve for this site than getting people down low to walk
along the edges of the water. This is true for two reasons. There won't be much water to see
when it floods, if something is built uphigh, it won't be washed away or dammed up with
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debris.
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• Removal of trees: Bob Ruth said he tried to save every tree by creating a pathway system through
the natural creek and cutting another channel through another area, but the Corps wouldn't agree to
it. The Corps will allow trees to be protected via retaining walls made of timber or rock as long as
they are kept isolated and are not uniform throughout the project
Wetland Areas:
• The entire project itself is not a wetland. The wetlands are along the channel where water is
running, and there are pockets of wetlands in surrounding areas. There is no map showing the
wetland areas.
• It is possible to trade a wetland in one area off for a wetland to be created in another area® This was
addressed when the Corps representative was here, and they know that almost all of the wetlands in
this project will be destroyed and will have to be recreated somewhere else within the project.
McClure Engineering does not feel that it is necessary to establish the percentage and location of
wetlands currently there.
• Sidewalks or development close to the stream, would not be compatible with the aquatic environment
the Corps wants recreated® Boulders, rocks, and natural objects, which would create the little pockets
and allow the plant life that's needed to support the wetland environment, would be compatible®
• A highly manicured park setting will not achieve the goal that the Corps is after. They want
something that's more or less left alone® There may be room for compromise ® areas with wetlands
and cattails, etc. - but also areas that can be mowed®
• There will be one permit given for the entire project from Texas Avenue to Earl Rudder Freeway® It
may not be possible to do the project all at once, but the permit will be in place.
The Corps understands that the City intends this to be an asset (retail opportunities and park
settings) as well as a drainage project
What needs to be done: Mike McClure stated that the wetlands are so dense, it is hard to know
what's there® Need to:
• Go to the site with field crews and define what the limits of the floodway are plus the 20'.
• Get field notes written for easements, so the City can acquire the land. That way anything within that
boundary cannot be changed.
• Clear out some of the underbrush so you can see what's there®
• Do a tree evaluation — some specimen trees will be kept, which may require a meander added to the
channel in order to save something®
• Have another meeting after these things take place to discuss what could possibly be done out there.
Goals & the Charette: Tom Woodfin stated that a package would be put together over the summer
for the charette. It will be done in a consistent format so that everyone sees the same thing and so that
each of the teams will know what the opportunities and the restrictions are. The package would be
neutral as far as information content but would express the goals of the stakeholders. It would have
strong graphic content and show some of the detail work that's already been done. It will be brought
back toward the end of summer for review. The students will create an 11" x 17" foldout that could be
mailed, describing what the event will be about.
Tom said that the charette should involve all the stakeholders, including developers and the private
sector and should allow the developers' interests to be expressed and committed to on everyone's part.
In this way the profit potential for the development is there and what occurs on the undeveloped parcels
of land fit into the whole image of what the corridor is® Everyone should be working as a team leaving
opinions at the door.
Tom wanted everyone to decide on what the image of the entire district, the creek corridor, and the
image along the street should be® A list of goals and a list of participants for the charette were
compiled. Formatting of the charette was also discussed. (See attached "Vision for WPC Goals",
"WPC Design Charette Participants", and "WPC Design Charette Format".)
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James reminded everyone that the regularly scheduled WPC Oversight Committee meeting was
cancelled due to the workshop, but there would be other meetings before the charette took place.
Further details and ideas for the charette could be worked out at future meetings.
Adjourn: The workshop adjourned at 11:44 a.m.