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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNorthgate Panel 6Oral History "North Gate" July 27, 1994 Interviewee - Frances James Kimbrough James W. James, Jr. Interviewer - Bill Lay Video Operator - Richard Molina Note taker - Sylvia Martinez Bill - All we're going to do this morning is just chat. I'm not here to, to grill you in that sense, but what I want to do is try to ask some questions which might jog your memories of some things which happened in the early days of Bryan or College Station, primarily which deal with the North Gate because we're dealing with the North Gate lane on our interviews today. And I'm assuming that the reason ya'll are here is because ya'll had some early contact with the Norgh Gate through businesses or personal contacts where you shop and things like that. We were wondering if you might want to share some of those with us today. Frances - Well, we just, when we were small we'd come out here to my daddy's drugstore, and that was before 1928. Bill - Could I stop you and ask "What was the name of your daddy's drugstore ?" 2 Frances - James Drugstore the third, he had two in Bryan and the third one was out here at College Station and huh we'd come out here "Oh it would be so hot. We'd ride out here on the trolley, we were thrilled to death to go on the trolley, and the water was just the sulfur water, the tap water, and so we didn't like that, and we got to drink all the soda water we wanted, and that was a drawing card coming out here. And that's about all about the drugstore. Bill - Mr. James, where was your father's drugstore located? James - Well, the drugstore, right, well, the street by Sbisa Hall going off campus use to would have run right into it. It was a wooden duplex and one half was my daddy's drugstore and the other half was Luke and Charlie's. Luke Patranella, I guess who was one of the most popular businessmen out here and Charlie was Charlie Opusteny. And one night I remember I was a child, they called Daddy and said "Your drugstore burned down" and Daddy told me confidentially because of some personnel matters out there he wasn't going to rebuild out there and then came, I think, Mr. E. J. Kyle rebuilt a brick building down there which became a drugstore but not my daddy's. Bill - Do you remember what year was it your drugstore burned? James - No sir, it was the early 30's, though, early 30's. But, huh, may I illustrate a little bit? Bill - You sure can. 3 James - Huh, if we go back up to Texas Avenue start north we will go through this ethnic neighborhood down here the Boriskis, Krenek, huh and one more that street goes right down in front of the chicken place down here. Oh what's the name of that street. Bill - Oh College Avenue James - No, no, right at Texas. It's another Czech name and then there was also a family there by the name of Kulach and Joe Kulach weighed about 300 and something pounds, but he was a walker for the Exxon Company out of Houston and he would walk the pipeline all the way from Houston up here. And he bought him a new Chevrolet Touring car. That's the kind four door top lifts down. So he was going to take his daddy to town on Saturday and he got right up here to the North Gate where the Gulf Station is. You know where I am talking about, it's now Premiere or Bill - Chevron 4 James - Chevron, anyhow, he got up there and his daddy asked him he said "Joe we're gonna have to turn." He said, "do you know how to stop this thing ?" He said "no" and they said it was just a decision all at once. The daddy went out this side, Joe went out this side, and the car went right up in that cotton field, there that was at the corner. But anyhow, coming on down toward North Gate, there used to be a traffic circle there before they had the four lights, but this was before then. Anyhow, they called it Old Sulfur Springs Road, and huh, you get down there towards North Gate a little bit more and A & M Methodist Church is still right where it was. And there was a pastore for A & M Methodist Church who did quite a bit in developing North Gate. They came in with College Main which runs to College Avenue from the North Gate up there, and I remember that old man rushing down at the road and stopping my father and I, we were in the car. He's always blasting, blasting, "don't come in," well, and they were blowing up tree stumps there on side of College Main trying to clear it all out, but huh, Mrs. Parkell, right just beyond the Methodist Church had a boarding house there, and her son went to school with all of us, but Mrs. Parkell ran some kind of boarding house and so many of us like to eat up to where there was good country food, you know, and then we'd go a little further down. My first memory though of coming from Main Campus over to the North Gate in front of where the post office is now, there was a fellow with a little four legged card table he had folded up. Come on you good Aggies buy my books here, get your, get your books. You know who that was Bill - He's still selling books isn't he? 5 James - That was Mr. Judd Loupot, but that was his first. He had on his senior boots, now if you think that's not going way back there, well it is. But anyhow, Lou did a lot of good for us. But going on further down, I remember the trolley ran, it stopped right where the campus theater is, and that's where old Colonel Billy Boyd lived, right next to it. He had that farm that went all the way from what's now Wellborn Road, went north up there to about, oh, on the other side of Albertson up there. But Colonel Billy, he had Dolly Boyd, he had Guy Boyd, he had, I don't know all those men were, a good bit older than I was at that time, I imagine still are, but anyhow, he, everything you saw came up with Boyd on it, nearly. They were good people and they were some colorful character's in there, I tell you. Frances - Well let me ask you who the old man was that loved music. He was as deaf as a post. James - Dr. Asberry Frances - Dr. Asberry, and huh, everyone loved Dr. Asberry and he just had all these pretty girls come over. He had beautiful pianos and they played the piano for him. Bill - Is that at his home? Frances - Yes. He had a little house right at North Gate, right where the post office, well right along there. James - Right across the street from Albertson where they had all these huh little small houses, most of them they later granted permission to live there. They had to work with building and ground or fire department something like that to get to. But he did of course, he was a North Gate. 6 Frances - He was part of A & M and he was part of North Gate and Dr. Asberry everybody knew him and he just loved beautiful music and he was a great influence. Bill - Can we go back to your father's drugstore? Is it located where, the area where the old Loupot's building is now, about in that area? Frances - Yes, yes. James - It would be just a little bit on the other side of Loupot's building. Bill - Down College Main, or down University? James - No, down, is that University, yea, yea. Bill - Be about where Charlie's Grocery use to be then. Frances - Yes. James - Luke and Charlie had the grocery store and Daddy had the drugstore in there. Bill - It's located right in there. Frances - And he loved all those people out at A & M. Oh and when Dr. Walton was made president he called him. He called him and he said Dr. Walton, Bill - This is that old picture there you might remember what it looked like back then. Bill - How many employees did your father have in the drug store? 7 Frances - Dr. Walton, I want to congratulate A & M , not congratulate you. I want to congratulate A & M on you being president. Frances - Not too many because it was a small store. Jim how many? James - About 3, Mr. Howell. Frances - Yes, about 3. Bill - Were there other drugstores in town then, or is that the only one? James - No that's the only one in College Station. Frances - The only one in College Station and then Bill - He was a first I remember there were Jones and Black and those others in later years, but your dad was the first one. James - Yea, after that came Frances - Lipscomb 8 James - Doc Lipscomb, Bill Sparks, Jess Casey, Casey /Sparks had the concession over the YMCA down in the bottom they had a soda fountain. And that was Casey and Sparks and they later went up to the North Gate and went in, if you were looking down College Main it would be on your right there on the corner, across the street, that's where Dean Kyle built that pipe covering, and Doc Lipscomb went in there. Bill - You say that ya'll came out here to your dad's drugstore because you get soda water out here. Frances - Oh we love to be in the store. Bill - How old were you about that time when you came out here then? Frances - I wasn't a teenager, I don't believe, because I know they say the 28 it was already built, and I was around 10 years old I guess. 9 Bill - Your dad carried the regular live, what we think of a drugstore now? Frances - Yes. Bill - Obviously it had a soda fountain back in those days. Frances - No, now he didn't have a soda fountain. James - My grandfather wouldn't stand for it. Bill - I see. Frances - He did have a prescription man that filled prescriptions and then had all these other drugs. Bill - Sold other over the counter drugs and things like that then. Frances - My daughter says don't say drugs any more, say pharmacy. Bill - Pharmacy. Frances - Drugs has a different meaning. 10 Bill - Huh, did the people who bought from him, were they primarily people in the community or did the Aggies have any hospital then? Frances - They all come over, they didn't, did they have a hospital then? James - Huh, yea, I don't know whether the Quack Shack operated like it does now about handing out pills and so forth, but mostly his good customers, that's how come they came out here. Dean Fryly, Dr. Walton, Mr. D. W. Williams at that time, let's see who else, Dr. Ball who was head of science. Frances - Oh they had fine people you got to know them and you knew their background. 11 James - Yea, most of those folk, see, lived on campus and they moved them off when they put the student center there, they started moving them off there and some behind dining hall. But most of them over there from the student center all through there clear over to Wellborn Road, and then they started getting them off campus, they needed dormitory space, classroom space. Frances - Oh right across from the drugstore and all they had nice homes the professors lived and I had friends I know who had birthday parties there and then right back on the other street I remember the Cofers lived there. Different college people lived all along there just across the street from the drugstore. Bill - Your father was a pharmacist? Frances - Yes. Bill - And back in those days did the pharmacist kind of act as the doctor too or Frances - I don't know. James - Yea I think they did. There wasn't anything hidden about it because my daddy furnished offices to five doctors see, free of charge because he wanted prescription bid. But a lot of them called him "doc" when they came in there. There wouldn't be anything big, you know, was wrong. Take care of a hang nail or something, you know. Bill - Sure. James - And they did a lot of that but not really any professional prescribing. In fact, Frances - That's a picture of his downtown store and a map of doctors he had. The best doctors in town. Bill - The pictures you have here show 1928. Frances - That's right. Bill - The drugstore at 26 and Bryan. Frances - That's right. il • 12 Bill - I'm trying to think of where 26 and Bryan is. I have to stop and think but I know about where it is. James - It's where the Vicks Brothers had theirs later on. Bill - Oh, o.k., I remember Vick Brothers, that was my era. Frances - And they were still up there on that building, my grandfather built the building. Bill - Did ya'll ever work in the drugstore? James - I did. Frances - He did. Bill - What did you do Mr. James? 13 James - Anything they wanted I just wanted on front, mostly downtown, wait on front, made a few deliveries, sat in the back and watched my daddy make prescription, pour castor oil into small bottles. That was one of the worst jobs I had ever had. Put that old funnel in there you know, have a gallon and pour it in there. Oh that's powerful stuff. My folks would never make me take a dose of castor oil because they knew how I hated it. Bill - Did they , where did they get their supplies from, out of Houston? Frances - Yes. Bill - Did your dad, did they run a credit thing back in those days for all the people? 14 Frances - Well, cosmetics was my interest I love to go in there whenever they got a new shipment in I had to have some of it. James - Houston, Waco, but that building up at North Gate, I see this quite famous picture around that area with snow everywhere and I still think that that was a picture of Luke and Charlie's and my daddy's store there, it was just 2, it was a duplex sort of thing, only it's a business see... snow I saw that in some office around here and I never did run it down. I tell you old Bear Bryant lived, he had a bunch of apartment houses up there in North Gate. And every night after a game he didn't want to be messed with as you put it. So he would slip out the back down here and walk through the back way of North Gate and go into his office home, I guess you'd call it, and he would avoid everything going on by doing that. Frances - Yes, that was the best man that ever lived. He never did, he would let these poor people have medicine and I know this one family that had a big farm, they'd buy from him all the time and at the end of the year they would pay. Well their farm went under and they couldn't pay this huge amount. But he was so good about letting people have medicine because he said, "they need it, they have to have it." But no, his kindness is his downfall. Bill - You were mentioning something earlier in our conversation, Ms. Kimbrough, about the relationship of the people who lived in Bryan and College Station at that time. Do you want to tell us some more about some of the things ya'll use to do... how ya'll worked together? James - That Bailey that she's talking about, no that was Sara Horn wasn't it? Frances - Oh yes. 15 Frances - Oh yes, it was all one big family and huh, the girls my age, we just grew up together and I notice Allen Calloway was here he was one of the boys that was at one of the parties that they gave and huh with Christy Bailey. Just all of them, we were all friends, we didn't know Bryan, I mean there was no division as far as I am concerned, there's not today with me. James - Tell them, that's interesting, go ahead. Frances - Sarah Horn was a beautiful girl. She was a swimmer and her daddy was head of the architectural department. James - Physics, I believe. Frances - Well, anyway. James - Go ahead, that's not important. Frances - She married a cadet colonial out here, she was just you know. James - James Ashton who later became City Manager of Dallas. Frances - And but we were all friends. 16 James - What was so interesting I recall about this woman if you drive up to the Systems building here and get out and look at the building, there's a woman's profile all the way around and it's her. Frances - That was Sara James - There's an artist that copied it and sculptured it and then the contractor copied it you know and cast it all the way around. She was a pretty girl. Bill - She's preserved in posterity. Frances - But she's been quite ill for some years. Bill - You indicated, that you thought that the building burned in the early 30's and then your dad did not reopen a store out here. James - No, he said that it wasn't making any money anyhow. Frances - Well did Patranella's and all those burn? 17 James - Now when the championship team was 1939 they liked to hang out at Doc Lipscomb place, it was, you know what I mean, right there with us all the time we were in school, and huh, they loved to go up there you know what I mean, cut up and everything. But regardless of how much rough stuff went out there you let a lady get out of her car and walk down that sidewalk every one of the members of that team were out in that street right away getting out of the way. They didn't interfere with business, there was a good relationship there between that football team and Doc James - And huh, we didn't pay any attention to that part, all we knew was whether there was any box cars on there so we wouldn't have to crawl over, under or somewhere like that. That was the old railroad, I don't remember whether it was ICN, SNP or what. Bill - But huh, Mr. Loupot got his start right there across the street from where the old Post Office. James - Yes, right there on the railroad. 18 Lipscomb. But huh, that road, that railroad came right up University Drive there from the lines down there at Wellborn and huh University and it came up so he could take... coal over there see, and huh, that thing ran right along beside what is now the post office there on up to where they could dump off the coals for the power plant right behind there and huh that's what I was talking about that fella selling those books, he was right on the railroad track, the spurs. Bill - I didn't realize that was the spurs. The spurs of the railroad came off the main track of University Drive up to where the power plant is, I guess it's always been there, and he dumped the coal there. I had never heard that story before. Frances - Oh and he was "King Cotton" at one time, we were all in a cotton pageant, the girls in Bryan were always invited to be duchesses, princesses, something. I don't know but anyway. Judd was the king one year. Bill - I guess that has to be his Senior year, I suppose? Frances - I think it was. 19 Bill - Are there some other things that ya'll can think of that would be of interest to people that happened back in those times either in relations to your dad's business or to the community as a whole? James - I remember on April Fools they stopped that Southern Pacific Train it wasn't that fast one, it made a stop here and all that freshmen got on there boy they had the brooms and mops and they gave that train the darndest scouring all the way to Bryan and the train men waited for them to get off in Bryan. And they hitchhiked back to school. Bill - Do you remember what year that was ? James - That was about 38. Bill - About 38, it was April Fools anyway. Frances - Oh every April Fools everybody got... Bill - One of the things that you showed us already is a picture of your father's drugstore there do ya'll have any other memorabilia or old drawings or photographs that you would like to share with Historic Committee? Frances - I'll look. Bill - They didn't make it real plain this morning, we are not asking necessarily to give them but if you have photographs that we can copy to put into an archives or something like that would be very helpful also. Frances - I sure will look and see. I have a closet just full of different things. But huh Bill - Well things that pertain to early College Station as you clear out things over the years we sure would like to have those rather that being thrown away obviously you may have children or grandchildren or whatever that would want them but certainly we would want to have copies of them so we can put into early history. Frances - Mother use to love to come to the balls, out here that's what they called them , the balls, and huh, all the girls from Bryan. Was it here or in Bryan, the place where 20 they had the balls? That was College Station, yea. I was just thinking about in my mother's time. Frances - Well the one... 21 James - I tell you a lot of these children you kept asking about the relationship between people your age who lived in College and those that lived in Bryan. Most of them went to Bryan High School, I was just thinking back, and they lived right over there on these people, who's daddy was head of Ag Education Department. They lived on Wellborn Road, facing Wellborn Road, part of campus housing, and there were just several more, most of them, a lot of them, Professor Porter he taught Math, head of Math Department, but he lived in Bryan and all of his children went to school in Bryan and so there really wasn't that big a deal between the two places and huh I don't know when Mr. Ernest Langford was mayor of College Station he huh he was also head of the Architectural Department out here at school , very nice man. And he had a son our age and he ran around just like the rest of them see. But I was just trying to think back to some of those families who had young kids you know when that was. James - His brother was mayor of Bryan. Mr. Ernest was mayor out here. He was the first mayor and his brother Ivan you remember that. Frances - Yes. 22 James - Was mayor in town. Bill - Were they mayors at the same time? James - Yes, they happen to overlap just one term I think it was. Frances - But the most important thing to me was the Methodist Church out here the start of it ,it was an old tabernacle... Bill - I remember that. Frances - And huh, they would have parties for the boys freshmen one week, and sophomore and they would invite the Bryan girls out and oh that was just wonderful. It was wonderful to them because they didn't have any cars they didn't have any way to get around, but that was the start of the Methodist Church out here, so, and lets see they had the church, was that big wooden building, was that the Church at first? James - Huh, I don't know. I remember the big blue building. Bill - That was the tabernacle , I think. Frances - Well, anyway, that was the start of the Methodist Church was right there and that's at North Gate. Bill - Was the Methodist Church the first church to be built on that plank on church road there. James - I think so then came the Baptist and Presbyterian and then the Catholic I believe. But the first preacher over there was who? Frances - Thomsen I believe. James - Norman Thompson. Frances - Brother Thomsen and he and his wife were so gracious and they'd entertain the boys and they'd ask us out. All the different Methodists who had, well they would take turns about having the boys for dinner over at their homes. James - I am trying to think what's there now where that sporting good store is there on North Gate. Just north of the Methodist Church there, anyhow, the building, the original building there was sold by Ford Medlin to R. B. Butler and a bunch of these directors of Community Savings 23 and Loan in other words the Savings and Loan Company. I don't know which and there a little what we call a one bedroom pre- fabricated house and the only thing that was put there besides the foundation was the big safe that was poured down there concrete safe, then they put this little one room bedroom up against that and joined it and that was the bank. By George, I believe that was the Old University Bank. Bill - It was, it was the Old University Bank. James - Yea, I believe it was, cause Mr. Mundlin and I were in business at that time selling these pre- fabricated houses and huh, that was before I came in with Hershel Burgess was in on the deal but Hershel didn't like the looks of it, he got out and huh this little one bedroom house kitchen and so forth was sold to the bank for that. I'm afraid we're taking up too much time. Bill - Your not taking up any time, we've got plenty of time as far as that goes. I just want to let you share whatever you want to share with us. Frances - We didn't discuss about my great grandfather starting. Bill - Well tell us about that. 24 Frances - To get the permit. Well he was in Galveston with the University then there and they had yellow fever so he moved his family to Bryan and he saw a need for a school here, now he was a medical doctor, but he, it was Texas Agriculture and Mech, no and he knew what the need was and he went to get it. He and three other men got the permit to start A & M in 1870's. Bill - Who was your great grandfather? Frances - Dr. John H. Webb and he was a medical doctor here for years. Bill - That was in 1875 when he started working on that. Frances - 1870's, huh, what year , what does your ring have on it? 25 Bill - 1876 is when it was founded. He was one of the early movers to get it started. It's interesting. He settled in in Bryan when he came up here? Frances - Oh yes. Bill - He was a medical doctor here in Bryan - one of the early medical doctors in Bryan? Frances - Yes and his son -in -law came with him from Galveston. He's a doctor and huh his name is Dr. Howell and so in Bryan, my grandmother and aunt and all the families just had homes around there and this Dr. Webb was their father and so Bill - And your grandfather, what did he do? Frances - Well, my grandfather James was in the drugstore business. Bill - So he started the drugstore and your father took it over then? Frances - Right, and huh, see, my grandmother was the Webb, she was doctor Webb's daughter and married James, married James. Bill - Your family goes a way back here. Frances - And we have been here five generations on both sides, Mother's family and my daddy's family. Bill - Anything else you want to share with us, and you'll get home and you'll think, "I wish I had told them about this or that." 26 Frances - I didn't know I was going to be interviewed or I would have, but I believe that covers it. Bill - You went to Bryan High School at that time and is Bryan High School, where was it located then? Frances - It was right, you know where Fannin is now? Bill - Ay huh Frances - Well, that was Bryan High School and on the back lot of that school of course they tore it all down, Mother went to school there, that was Bryan High, then I went to school there, Jim, did you finish at Bryan High? James - Ah huh. Frances - But it was just a block from our house, it was just great, but I was always late getting , kinda getting there. Bill - You live the closest one and you were always the latest one to get there. Frances - Yes. 27 James - Dominics were the other ethnic group down here. Bill - Right, Dominics, o.k. James - Dominics, yes. Frances - Well its been a pleasure to have you all interviews us. 28 Bill - I understand how that is. We want to thank you for sharing your ideas or your remembrances, huh, with us this morning. As you didn't hear, James, but they said they would type these up and give them back to you. You can correct them, the thing, because it's hard to pick up on the recorder sometimes. Huh, and if you think of other things that you want to share with us that can be added through some notes that you might want to give us. And again we'd like to have any memorabilia you'd like to share with us and, huh, if there's specific things that you wanted to donate to the archives section, I'm sure that they'd be glad to have it or they'll make copies, whatever. Bill - We certainly thank ya'll for taking your time to come out and visit with us and , huh. We're excited about the project and again if you will, huh, look over the list and if you want to do it while your here, if you've got time, that will be fine, if you'll like to take it with you and give it back to us. Either way it will not make a difference. We would try to get other people that we can find out about the early days of College Station too. We thank you very much for coming. James - Thank you. 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