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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNorthgate Panel 5Anderson Boyett - With Mrs. Norman Anderson and Teeny Wicker, Teeny Anderson Wicker. Teeny - Right. Boyett - And it is the afternoon of July the 12th in Bryan, Texas. Alright Mrs. Anderson, it's a pleasure to visit with you this afternoon to talk about some of the old things that happened in College Station, and if it is possible to sort of pick your memory and put it down on tape, these things. Can you tell me how you first came to College Station? Mrs. Anderson - Um, Reverend Anderson, Norman Anderson received a call to this church and we moved in 1928 I believe it was, from Taft, Texas where he had been a minister. At that time the only child we had was Mary Evelyn Anderson or Teeny as she was called, and we stayed there - we've been here from 1928 now until he retired in 1962 and I am still here, from 1928 now from 1994. Boyett - And how old are your Mrs. Anderson? Mrs. Anderson - I was 90 the 22nd of June, 1994. Boyett - 90 years old. Mrs. Anderson - I have seen a great many changes, uh, uh, at A & M. Boyett - I'm sure that you have. Now you were a resident of the North Gate area weren't you? Mrs. Anderson - Yes, when we came, what is now Main Street, ended at our house, we were the only house on the west side on Main Street, and it had not been expanded towards Bryan. In fact, if people came up the street they turned into our driveway and went back. That was the end of the drive, at that time the Baptist Church was a wooden structure where was built the present Baptist Church, the brick structure. There was a Baptist man across the street, and there were businesses between our house and University Drive which would have been about a block from what is now the University Drive. Um, on each side. There was a little blank spot on the right of our house, and then you had the series of businesses,Sosolik's, a cleaning place, it was called Rapps Cleaner's. Then there was a small, small store, very small store and a Barber shop and Luke and Charlie Grocery. This was before Luke and Charlie moved around the corner. Boyett - Now, if I'm not mistaken the actual location of your home was what is now the corner of College Main and 2 2 Church Street, and it's where the Baptist Student Union building presently is. Mrs. Anderson - We, i.e. the church, sold the property to the Baptist Church for them to build their Student Union building, and we, i.e. the A & M Presbyterian Church, moved around the corner on Church Street in the present location. Boyett - 0. K., and do you remember when the, the Presbyterian Church first brought that building in there that's now on Church Street, the, it was an old military chapel, wasn't it? [Mrs. Anderson - Yes, can you cut it off? Boyett - Sure {tape cuts and comes back on}] 3 Mrs. Anderson - Yes it was moved here in 1948 it was an army chapel that was moved from, I believe, Victoria, and, uh, we didn't have anything except the chapel itself, that was all I think. Later, Sunday School and Fellowship Hall and so on was built later on. Boyett - 0. K. Mrs. Anderson - ... Get back from the Victoria air base, yes. 3 Boyett - That's what I thought. Uh, well, obviously the church had purchased that property to, uh, some years earlier as I recall. Mrs. Anderson - I don't know anything about that, uh, I don't know if it, if it were done, I knew nothing about it. After we came, I suspected that, uh, may have owned the property at the time the house where we lived, uh, had been built before we came, but it was very, very new. The yard was just a cotton field. The furrows were still in it, and the house was extremely new, had never been lived in before, but the church at that time was very, very young, it had just been, just been a couple of years or so (a short time). Boyett - We looked at some photographs earlier, and it would appear that from the back of your house, you could see a two story house off in the distance, about a block away. That's the one I identified for you as, as, Mrs. Seagers old boarding house. Remember that? Anderson - Very dimly. Boyett - Oh Anderson - I remember that, huh, beyond their house which 4 was later Main Street opened up there was just a blank space 4 where now the huh huh, Church of Christ built. There was one isolated house over there but I never had anything to do with it. Boyett - 0. K. huh, do you remember how many people were in the church when huh when you first came? Anderson - Yes when we came, of course, we could not have a church services in the morning we had... chapel and so we met only in the evening upstairs on the second floor in the YMCA and we had twenty -five members. Boyett - Is that right? How about that. That was a big meeting room upstairs in the YMCA wasn't it? Anderson - Yes, the YMCA through the years has always been very very helpful to any group. Boyett - Any churches I recall. Anderson - Not only the church but other areas too, they do a wonderful job. Boyett - Yea, yea. Have you been back in the YMCA Building say in the last 10 or 15 years? 5 5 Anderson - I couldn't say exactly 10 or 15 years, it would be very difficult for me with my handicap now to get up those front steps. I went up them for many many years. Boyett - Guess what, that big room doesn't exist any more. Anderson - Because we had church in the YMCA chapel. Boyett - In the old chapel, that's right. Anderson - And Mr. Anderson at one time had his office in the back of the YMCA. Boyett - Oh yea, I remember. Teeny - By the stage area. Boyett - Yea there were offices on either side. Anderson - Yes. Boyett - Well, they made it all offices now. it's a big office area. Huh, can you remember some of the early families that were members of the Presbyterian Church then. Anderson - Do you remember the D. H. Reed family? They were really active here, I saw an old picture of them not long 6 6 ago and I kept up. They had two sons, one died years and years ago. The younger son, Irving, died, I corresponded with him until when I didn't hear last year, I was wondering, and his widow wrote me that he had just died. Boyett - Passed away. Anderson - He wanted to hear from me each year because he kept up with folks like Ms. Adams and Carolyn Mitchell and folks like that that he had known here all those years ago. Then there were the Gammons who were in the History Department and of course the D. W. William's. Boyett - His, huh, his son married a girl that I went to high school with, Shirley. He became a doctor, his son Bill became a doctor. Anderson - I believe they were in Rockdale. Boyett - Ah, I am going to say Waxahachie but I don't know that for sure, but I know that he practices medicine and he married a girl that I went to high school with. Anderson - He had two sisters, Ruth Williams, who is now in Dallas. Teeny - They recently moved to New Mexico, mother. 7 7 Anderson - They now moved to New Mexico, Teenie says, and huh, had one older sister. Teeny - Margaret Ann. Anderson - Margaret Ann Williams. Teeny - Lives in Austin. Anderson - And she's in Austin. Teeny - What about the Boltons? Anderson - And the Bolton were very active members in the church. Boyett - Frank C. Bolton, wasn't that it? 8 Anderson - F. C. Bolton, he had two boys and a girl. the girl married somebody in the air service. They've been around here recently, I mean they lived here for a good many years and then Bolton, Preston Bolton, architect, moved to Houston and Frank Bolton I believe was in New York City and later in Houston. Boyett - Oh. 8 Teeny - I believe I saw Mrs. Lancaster... Anderson - Mrs. Lancaster and of course all her children, some of them live still around. Boyett - She taught everybody music somewhere along the line. Anderson - Dr. Jones. Boyett - Luther Jones. Anderson - Luther Jones, was here for many many years. Teeny - And Mrs. Leland is still alive too. Mary, of course, is still here. Boyett - Yes she is. Teeny - Mr. McCulloch had they beautiful baritone voice. Anderson - Mr. McCulloch? Teeny - No, Mr. Killough. Boyett - Oh, D. T. Killough. David T. Killough. 9 9 Anderson - He had such a beautiful tenor voice. It was so lovely. He sang for us often, he was a member of the Methodist Church. Boyett - He was a Methodist, he sang for everybody. Anderson - Yes, he was so generous with his talent. 10 Boyett - Yes he was, white hair! I remember now white hair, huh, my first recollections of him. He was the first man that I knew that wore a crew cut. Anderson - That's right. Boyett - And he was probably 50 -60 years old then. Anderson - Made him unique. Boyett - Yea. I went to their house a great deal. His wife's name was Mable, and he had a son named huh, Johnny. Anderson - Yes. Boyett - And they lived across the railroad from where I lived. They lived on the university farm huh, over with, huh, they had a house over there and another family had a 10 house over there named Roberts, Jacko Roberts. Remember Jacko? Anderson - Yes, I really do, I mean, not intimately, but his wife too. Boyett - Yes. Anderson - They were fine people. Boyett - Yes. Teeny - Mr. Duncan, who ran Sbisa Hall and his wife Agnes ( "Aggie "), they were members of the church too. Anderson - Mr. Duncan and Mrs. Duncan of course were active in the church and huh Anderson - She ran the board rooms after his death of course. He was the one that ran Sbisa Hall so they were very active in the church. Teeny - Were the McFaddin's here in the early days? Anderson - The McFaddins were here a long time, he was the one that developed a new rust resistant wheat that would help the whole world. 11 11 12 Boyett - Rust resistant, that's right, yea, and I think didn't they export or import that wheat to Russia and it saved the Russian people a couple of times, or something, as I can recall. Anderson - Well, it saved a lot of the undeveloped countries that couldn't Teeny - He received national recognition for that. Boyett - Do you remember typically how a week went, say when you first came here and the church got started? Anderson - Well, as the church grew, the Presbyterians from the time we came had approximately 10 % of the student body. When we came the student body was 2,500. It was strictly a Military School. Students marched in to meals, they got up by the bugles and went to bed by the bugle, and I knew students, freshmen who at Christmas had not gotten off campus as far as Bryan, because you had to have a pass to get off and freshmen ranked lower than anything... and huh, nobody could be married, nobody could have a car and so things were quite different... Norman visited every night, when he didn't have a meeting at the church, in the rooms with the boys. He knew almost all the Presbyterian boys before the school was out. That was one of the strengths of 12 the work here in the early days, that the schools were small enough and cadets couldn't get away from the campus on the weekend. Boyett - That's true. 13 Anderson - But we, our whole program was based on the college schedule. Whether they were going to have games here or not and if there's was going to be a special college weekend. We had to be through with church service when it was possible for us to have morning service, in time for the boys to leave the church and make formation for the boys to march in to noon mess, so everything we did, what we scheduled for our social life and everything was based on what was ahead on the college schedule, for the student. And of course the corps trips were very important events in those days with everyone - all cadets riding a train. Boyett - And everybody went. Anderson - Yea, we looked at the beginning of the year, when are the corps trips coming up, you know and where. Boyett - That was not a weekend to schedule any church activities? 13 Anderson - We didn't do anything except the regular church services. Teeny - Mother, an interesting thing that describes a little bit about life at North Gate was the fact that Daddy was so interested, he had a little bit of a farm boy in him and in that location at North Gate we had cats, dogs, pigeons, guineas, several kinds of ducks, including... ducks which don't quack, geese, banty rooster, chickens, Anderson - Little curls of chickens all kinds of chickens. Boyett - I remember. Teeny - Practically overtook the whole backyard. Boyett - I remember the bamboo around the back... Anderson - If you ever had it you would never forget it. Boyett - That's right. I remember that bamboo because it was a big enough patch of bamboo that Fred and his brother 14 Teeny - ... and we had them all pen up in a chained link type fence, although I think it was probably chicken wire at that time, as they called it, and daddy planted bamboo around that fence to protect it a little bit. 14 hauled out an area inside there to hide in, they had a fort inside, hiding out in there, I remember that. 15 Anderson - That bamboo will, stuff will uproot the side rail of a garage. Boyett - Yea. Teeny - We were right there at North Gate and there was no problems in having a little old barnyard in out back yard. There was no problem. Anderson - There was no one else over there. But you know we also lived close enough to this the old Tourvilla... trolley that went from College into Bryan could be heard where the cadets put torpedoe on the tracks. Boyett - The interurban. Anderson - It was near enough we could hear the boys yelling and walking you know, and putting torpedoes on the rails so that there was a lot of excitement going on. Different times... Boyett - Do you remember where the terminal was in College Station? 15 Anderson - Just dimly. I don't remember well. Boyett - I know where the tracks were and I can still see one little place where there's a mound of it. Over in the corner of Boyett Street and Spruce. But I don't know where the terminal was because it came on the campus, if I'm not mistaken. Didn't it come right up on the edge of the campus? Teeny - I don't know. Anderson - I'm not sure. Ah, I don't know that I went to the terminal at any time. I mean the boys that we heard were just in the distance, we didn't see. 16 Boyett - I can recall my father telling me about it and once when I was very small I must not have been more than 6 or 8 years old, he took me to Bryan and he made arrangements, we met somebody there and the engine was in a shed down there and he showed me the engine. This is in the early 40's, and he showed me the engine; it had a fly wheel that was probably 6 to 7 feet in diameter high and it was in a shed there and I remember seeing that stuck in a shed and it was an old age, all the side of it were open you know. I never saw it run. The tracks were already gone and everything but I remember as a small boy seeing that and the man telling me how they started it. They took a spark plug out of it and 16 17 put a 12 gauge shot gun shell in there and hit it with a mallet. They hit it with a steel mallet and it would fire and cause that fly wheel to turn and when the fly wheel started turning, then it would fire on the other cylinder and they put the spark plug back, and all, and that was the story he told. But I never saw it run, I just saw it in the shed. It was dusty and grimmy and everything else. Anderson - But one of the early things that was prevalent was physical hazing; and it was something that was very bad Boyett - Yea. Well, do you recall much about the local people being involved with the students, the cadets in church? Anderson - Ay, yes, our church always had as it's motive for being here almost, to serve the students at A & M. That's always been the reason for being here, and so the faculty were in it in order to help the students and the emphasis in our church was definitely on the students and they took them into their homes. The social life that they had, since they pretty much couldn't leave the campus, was largely through the church, the college and other organizations. Our parties and everything were held in the home or at the YMCA... but we started out having everything in our home... everything. 17 Boyett - Well, lets see now, if you came in 1928, do you remember the actual gate that was called the North Gate? Do you remember that? Anderson - No, I don't think I ever saw it. I never did know why it was called the North Gate. Boyett - I have a photograph, that, huh, that Mr. Soslick's daughter gave to me, and we think that it was taken about 1922 and it shows the gate with the two brick columns on either side of it. Anderson - Where were they? Boyett - Huh, do you know where the post office is now? Anderson - Yes. 18 Boyett - It was across that street, what is now College Main, right there in front of what is now the post office, it was right there, and huh, there were two brick columns on either side of it and an iron gate that they closed at night, so, I don't know when it was taken down, but I, she had information when she gave me that photograph, I have a big print of it that indicated, I think it's in this book that indicated that huh she thought it was taken around 1922, based on her father's records, but she made me a 18 record of a copy of the photo a very large one, so we framed it and I have it in my office. Do your remember the train station? Anderson - Oh yes. Boyett - Yea. Anderson - Very much the train station we used to go down there, that was very much the big event. Boyett - Do you remember some of the things, didn't the Aggies go on corps trips on the train? 19 Anderson - Oh yes, they just mobbed the train. The children in the community also had a yearly treat. The children in the first, second, I don't know how high in grades it went but my children I know, along in the second grade got to ride as far as Bryan on a train one day and that was a big thing that they looked forward to. They were going to go on the train into Bryan. Teeny - Daddy drove and he got there before the train did because he was waiting for me. I remember that. I rode the train all by myself. 19 Anderson - People use to go to the train to get on to see people come to see people leave. It was kind of a social place... You got to go down to the train... people didn't have cars so they came in on the train. Teeny - Well, let me ask you for my information, mother, was that train you are talking about the original train station or the one that was built right at the west gate across the tracks? There's a little tiny train station that they've got the sketches of for the new Am Trak Station and then there was a larger one. Anderson - I think I remember the original station. I remember going down to the newer station when the boys were leaving during the war to get on there and their folks were telling them good -bye. It was very hard times at that time. Boyett - I found the photograph in this book of that North Gate in which were the two brick columns and it had an iron gate in it and an iron fence along there. Anderson - Now was this the only entrance? 20 Boyett - Well, this was the only entrance on the north side. The main entrance was over by the train station, and oh that later became the entrance on the highway and it was about 20 where huh the main entrance is about where Albritton Tower is now. Anderson - Oh yea, that's where we use to go down to the train. Boyett - Sure, yea, sure. Anderson - I remember too, of course, where they turned the college around. Where there'd been a back side became a show place at the front now. 21 Boyett - That's right, well, they moved the highway and huh, what we know as Wellborn Road was originally the Highway from Houston to Waco. That was Highway 6. Anderson - Yea, and of course now we've got a huge development in the west campus. A & M is not going to be what it use to be either. Boyett - Right, and all that development wasn't even part of the campus, was it? Anderson - Oh no. Boyett - See. 21 22 Anderson - In the earlier days all that we had down in there were agricultural hog barns and horse barns, and food places and all that kind of thing. Boyett - And the creamery. Anderson - Oh, yes. Boyett - Remember the creamery? Anderson - That was a big part... Boyett - That was a choice place remember the creamery? Anderson - And in those first days the creamery could deliver milk on campus, that was before there was a protest and they stopped doing that. Boyett - Yea, huh, well lets see, you come in 1928. Somewhere in the mid 20's there was somewhat of a big scandal and a lot of the university administration had charges brought against them for misappropriation of funds. Was that all pretty well cleared up? Anderson - Yes, I don't recall any part of that. 22 Boyett - Yea, I just remember sketches of it whoever the president of the university left and went to Oklahoma and never came back and somebody ended up in jail over the thing and I never got the full story of all that. Anderson - I don't remember anything about that. Boyett - Do you recall the football game weekends and the dates coming to town? 23 Anderson - In those days since there were no motels and hotels here you knew that as soon as the college opened and different events came up that you were going to have girls staying with you the whole year long, whether it was Ring Dance or the military weekend or a football game or whatever since there was no place for them to stay. Anybody that knew a student knew he might have the boy's girl here for the weekend. Boyett - For the weekend. Anderson - Yes, and we did yes. It's just kind of an open house on the part of everybody in those days of course. We never did live on campus. But in fact we lived so near the campus and everybody entertained girls then. 23 Teeny - There was no place for them to stay but the Aggieland Inn and it didn't have many rooms. Boyett - I think it had like twelve rooms at most. Teeny - At most. Boyett - I remember the Aggieland Inn pre Stucko Building right across from Sbisa Hall. We built ours & then I remember when the Jews built their Hillel Student Center across from campus. 24 Anderson - Inevitably it rained on those weekends. I used to feel so sorry for the cadets; they didn't have a car, so the very few cars that were available even for rent or anything, they were so filthy with mud and so few... Boyett- Do you remember much about the other churches in the North Gate Area you said the Baptist Church was across the street from your home. Anderson- Well, of course, the Methodist Church originally was a tabernacle, I've always thought that they were here as early as the Baptist church. They were very active and of course later on he Church of Christ... 24 Boyett- Over by Duncan Anderson- .... & the Episcopal Church on Jersey Street Teeny - Was the Catholic Church always located where it is now on Church Street behind the Methodist Church? Anderson- As far as I remember, not as elaborate. They have such an elaborate church building now Boyett- I can remember the Catholic Church up on what is now University Drive, it was called Sulfur Springs Road then where the Shell Station is now, there was a gray little very tiny chapel that had a basement in it and the meeting room, the chapel part of it, was up above and the basement was sort of a half basement, but it always flooded when it rained and I can remember that. And it must have been in the mid to late 40's that they built the student building and the bigger, their much bigger church back on Church Street. Um, I remember that, it was, it was on a piece of property that had been given to them by the Taubers. The Tauber family all lived over there and the Patrskis. Anderson - That's one of the families I've been trying to recall the name of. Teenie - Patrskis. 25 25 Teeny - In those days did the water supply for College Station come from those wells over off of Sulfur Spring Road, you know the Whittens use to live there. Anderson - I don't know anything about the water. Boyett- It seems to me that those wells, there were two of them, see, I seem to recall two wells along there. One of them was on the Tauber property and I don't know who on the other property. It's now where College View was for a while, but I remember those two wells. Anderson - Well when we came here, the water was so full of sulfur, it just turned your silver just dark, I mean it was real problem and it was several years before they changed the water. 26 Boyett- I remember that. I can remember that even back as a child, we bought bottled water to drink. Now I can remember that. And of course we had ice delivered for our ice box, yep I remember the ice deliveries from, to put in our ice box, it was back on our back porch and the guy always gave me a sliver of ice to chew on, you know, I remember that very much you know and I, I'd wrap dish towel around it so I could hold on to it, but he always, he always I guess picked up those big icicles up at the icehouse and threw them in 26 there & of course they'd melt down somewhat, but he gave them to the kids wherever he delivered them. Teeny - I remember when they had the church parties, we got to go into Bryan to the icehouse to get large chunks of ice Boyett - yep Teeny - and boy all us kids, went we just loved an opportunity with no air conditioning to get up close to those open doors down there. Boyett - yea, yea Boyett - chilled them Anderson - For us, you know, that was a big help. 27 Anderson - In those early days, we would go down to Hempstead and load our car up with watermelon. In those days you could, that was before they, the people down there, realized how much money they could make on us so it was very reasonable, you could get a huge one for 10 or 15 cents, so, we'd just pile the car full and come back and we had watermelon socials and the college was so nice, we could take our watermelon and go over there and put them in the ice house and they iced them down at no charge. 27 28 Boyett- I remember you could, I remember you could pull up to the dock, they did not deliver ice from the college, they sold it, they had it for their own use and delivered it to Sbisa, but you could go up there, drive up there, and they would sell you ice off of the dock. I remember that. An if you took a watermelon over there they would chill it for you. I remember that. They'd put it in that brine, that cold, cold brine Anderson - Well we had, you know we had the large yard and so we would maybe serve 50 boys watermelon. Teeny - It's a wonder we didn't have a watermelon patch with all the watermelon seed fights we had. Boyett- Yea, well that's interesting, really good. Do you remember much about 1929, the Depression when it hit, how, what sort of effect do you recall that it had on the church? Anderson- Well, it was a hard time here just as it was everywhere else. Nobody had much money to spend as we were a young church starting out, I just remember that it was not any different from other people. We just had the regular problem of trying to keep going, and the people sacrificing to keep the church going and that kind of thing, of course, 28 we were all living individually, as fugally as we could and it hit again in the war. Boyett - yea Anderson - And of course that had a tremendous impact here, uh, not so much financially, I guess it took away plenty of the students so often here. It was a hard time. Boyett - You know it's funny. My memories of World War II, I begin to remember a lot more because I was of that age, but as I recall, the student body got much much smaller, but suddenly the military sent more and more people in here for other training and in all reality there were more people here than before, but they weren't all working on College degrees. Do you remember that? Anderson - Well, are you thinking about the students when they returned. Boyett - No, I was thinking about during that period while the students were still in the army. Boyett - But we had military people Anderson - Yea, we had military people in our church and several of them were wonderfully active workers. I can 29 29 remember several different things that were very influential, uh, I, uh, I don't recall any that I would have thought of as equal to what we were losing from the community, but maybe so. Certainly we did profit from some of the military men coming in. Teeny - College began to go on a 12 month schedule and prior to that time, teachers who were trying to, uh, validate their teaching certificates, speaking of women, could come in the summer and enroll at A &M and daughters of the faculty, could enroll at AM during the summer. As soon as the war broke out and they went on that 12 month around the clock schedule, they discontinued that. Boyett - Oh, OK Teeny - That was a disappointment to me because they were not admitting girls to A &M and I wanted a credit on my transcript and I never got an Aggie credit. Anderson - There was very little change in the church. Of course it was repainted and freshed and that sort of thing 30 Boyett- Well, we mentioned earlier about the church building being moved up there in 1948, ah do you recall what the interior of the church looked like when it was first brought up there? 30 and the alter has been changed and you use to have a rail around it like in all the Methodist Churches they had. That's gone now. It was a typical military chapel built for the military services Boyett - The open beam, though, that are there now Anderson- Yes Boyett - were they the original open beams Anderson - The overhead is still the same Boyett - Still the same Anderson - the windows are pretty much the same although they've been dedicated as memorials, but huh Boyett - I remember those open beams particularly it was such a massive structure Anderson - It was a church, you see it was design by the government to be use by different denominations, I'm sure they could just make little changes in the way that they observed their sacrament and so forth, but basically the building was designed to accommodate a number of the different faiths. 31 31 Boyett - denominations Anderson - and it did and it just stood the test of time, and of course we have added to the building itself and change it around, because the offices for the ministers and the choir that leads into the fellowship hall and all that but the basic church is still there Boyett - is pretty much like it was Anderson - yea Boyett - that church was built in Victoria at the army air force base Anderson - As far as I know, I mean it came from there Boyett - yea Anderson - So I assume it was built Boyett - So it was built probably sometime during the period say 1942 to 1945 Anderson - Well, I don't know anything about it before it was moved over from there to us. I assume that 32 32 Boyett - But anyway, it's certainly close to 50, years old the building itself, and obviously has stood the test of time. Anderson - yes, we of course had to move it from Victoria and put in different supports or one thing or another. But we have never rebuilt it completely or changed the basic structure. Boyett - I think it has served the Presbyterian Community very well. Anderson - and many of A &M boys who go out from here Boyett- yea that's good Boyett- Ah did the Presbyterian Church continue to meet in the YMCA up until that time? 33 Anderson - We didn't have our own building before we got the one from Victoria so we met in a number of places. We met upstairs in the Y for a while and then I can't give you the dates exactly, but we met in Guron Hall at one time, and then we meant in the YMCA Chapel in one time, we even met in the old assembly hall, the old picture show and the Campus Theater. 33 Boyett - I remember the old assembly Anderson - Do you remember that? Boyett - Yes I do! Anderson - In those days we had church the next morning after the Saturday movie with popcorn and....all over the place. Boyett - right behind Law Hall Anderson - Isn't that where the A & M chapel is now? Boyett - where the chapel is now, yea Anderson - and then from there we went over to the old picture show, over there on North Gate Boyett - I remember you met in the Campus Theater for some time 34 Anderson - In Campus Theater, we use to have to get the stage ready quickly when church was over get all that stuff put away for the one o'clock picture show that was coming 34 and it had the flood lights you know around the bottom of the stage. Boyett - around the bottom of the stage. Anderson - Do you remember Luke Patranella Boyett - I do Anderson - one day, he was a deacon and was taking up the offering he came up and as he was standing somewhere for the blessing of the offering, he let it fall and the money went into all those different flood lights and it just made a racquet all the way around. Boyett - ah huh Anderson - We had a lot of experiences in that church and from there then did get our own building. Boyett - your own building, which is the existing building that the church has now. Anderson - Yes. 35 35 Boyett - Well, I thought that it was one of those cases where the congregation just sort of moved and met where they could 36 Anderson - Just as a lot of the younger congregation today, as they are getting started. The college or the community has always been so nice about letting some of these churches that have met in these schools use their buildings. So that's how we got started. Teeny - We met at the Campus Theater for a while. Boyett - yep I remember that Well lets see, we've talked quite a bit about your old house. I don't think we've mention the fact that the house that you lived in, in which you have a number of photographs is still in existence and has been moved about a block away and is a rent house now. Anderson - what is the address of that, it is the corner of what street? Boyett - it's 301 Boyett street Anderson - Boyett Street OK 36 Boyett - The address is,that's 301 Boyett Street now. Anderson - Now tell me where is your house the old Boyett's home. I can see it in my mind but I can't place it. Boyett - The old Boyett home was on the corner of Boyett Street and Sulphur Springs Road and, where the Campus Theater is now. The Campus Theater was built in 1939 and the old house was moved a block back and about a block over. And my dad turned it into apartments. Anderson - Well now that's how I remember it. Boyett- It looked like it was red brick, but it wasn't, it had that asphalt material that looked like bricks on the outside of it. Anderson - That's how I remember it Anderson - Isn't that nice. 37 Boyett - OK, and I was born in that house when it sat up on Sulphur Springs Road, it actually faced Boyett Street. It was on the corner of Boyett and Sulphur Springs and I was born in that house and huh, Mr. Soslik's daughter also had a photograph of that house, that she blew up for me. 37 38 Boyett - In fact the bedroom that I was born in was on the front of the house and so the windows are there so I can see that, but I have that and that house was moved back in 1939 and my parents rented apartments out of there. Huh they sold the house in the early 60's and it burned while I was in the service in the military. It burned, oh I'm gonna say sometime around 1962 or 63. It burned and there were no injuries and nobody got hurt but huh the individual who had bought it, you know, had it leased. It was an old old house and not all that good, but we had not lived in it, I had not lived in it more than about a year when I was about a year old my parents moved to the stucco apartment building that was in the 300 block and it was a big two story building with a slate roof. We saw some of your photographs showed the back of that old house and we lived in an apartment there until I was about six years old, my parents purchased a house from the college and moved it further down on Boyett Street and then we lived there from 1941 until 1957, of course we I left and my parents continued to live there. Anderson - You moved around but you stayed right here Boyett - Yes I did, yes I did, we stayed real close, I literally grew up in the North Gate as did your kids. Anderson - oh yes, they use to go see Mr. Ivey at the 38 Boyett - At the Barber shop? Anderson - at the barber shop and see Mr. Lipscomb at the 39 drug store Boyett - at the drug store Anderson - and huh see Charlie and Luke at the grocery store Boyett - at the grocery store, yea Anderson - they just lived Boyett - An Albert Opersteny's Variety Store Anderson - And Charlie Opersteny and Andy were, they played together all the time. And there weren't any other children there. Boyett - no there weren't any Anderson - so that was about it. Teeny - Mother you mention the big fire at North Gate Anderson - Yes I wanted to ask him about that 39 Teeny - to me about 2 or 3 days ago and the only thing I can recall, and I was in high school when we moved from North Gate to Timber Street. The only thing I can recall it seems to me that either Lauderstein or Youngblood had a fire in their business establishment Anderson - I think this, do you remember Boyett - Holick's had a fire, Anderson - who did? Boyett - Holick's, remember the boot shop Anderson- yea Boyett - Holick's had a fire when I was maybe 8 or 10 years old huh and Lauderstein had a fire in the cleaning, of course, he was the last store on the right going toward your house, on College Main Anderson - yes, yes Boyett - and he had a fire in the cleaners and that had to be probably the early forties, early to mid forties Anderson - Did that break out in the early morning? 40 40 Anderson - I remember waking up Teeny - Mother we were moved by the early forties Boyett - Were you? Teeny - yes Anderson - Will this was a lot earlier, then. When did your house burn? Boyett - That house didn't burn till the 1960's Anderson - Oh Boyett - So that wasn't it Anderson - I never have been able to remember, Luke and Charlie have a fire? Boyett - No the Zubik's Tailor Shop which was right next to Charlies and Alberts Anderson - Zubik, Zubik was the name of 41 41 Boyett - Zubik Tailor Shop had a fire because it was in a building that my dad owned and he had and was about 1948, 47 -48. Teeny - mother's thinking late 20's, mid 30's Anderson - I don't know Boyett - Mid 30's. I wouldn't recall that, that's before my recollection. Anderson - I'm not sure as to the time, I just remember that one night we woke up there was smoke everywhere in between us and the North Gate. Boyett - yea, seems like there was a fire along about where Sosolik was before Sosolik built that brick building Anderson - yea right along in there Boyett - right along in there Anderson - wonder if side of the street. I believe that that was what happened. 42 Boyett - yea you know that was the cleaners that was on your 42 That's before my time, but I remember hearing conversation about that. Anderson - They were one of the first people incidentally who built a home to live in on the opposite side of the campus. And that was just like building in Navasota. At that time people just couldn't understand why in the world would they build there, you know. Everybody was on the campus, they were way down there. Boyett - Yea, yea. Anderson - Where the Hughes live now, you know. Boyett - Yea, folks like that. 43 Anderson - Carolyn Mitchell, down in that area. Nobody live there then they were about the first people to build in that area. Boyett - Well, you've shown me a great number of photographs of a lot of things that I am sure would be very good and I trust that you'll loan those to the group, to reproduce. But I would think they would be very valuable and I in fact I think these photographs of the groups at the YMCA are really special, particularly the ones with the girls in 43 them. I think a lot of people would like to see that. Don't you? Anderson - Of course there's about 15 or 20 young people from the local group. Boyett - Right. 44 Boyett - People that grew up there, yea. I think that's very special, I really do. Well, I think that we ought to conclude the interview by simply saying that we, as College Station residents, appreciate the memories and appreciate the long service that the Andersons gave to this community. Anderson - Well, we've been very blessed to live our whole married life, practically, here in a community like this. And with students and then the educational atmosphere, it has been wonderful, as Teeny says it's a wonderful place to grow up. Boyett - Oh yea, oh I agree. Teeny - And the climate on campus... Boyett - So friendly. 44 Teeny - The social climate, by social I mean social studies type climate. Boyett - Sure. Teeny - Was so different for girls on campus at that time. Anderson - We never thought about locking doors or walking across the campus at night or anything. If any of the Aggies ever spoke to you it was just a very nice howdy, and that was it. Teeny - And the same thing was true with the young girls, we never had any problem; there was just a compliment, if we got a little whistle, that was just an appreciative compliment. And we use to get followed by the surveyors since we walked across the drill field,... Boyett - nobody was threaten in those days were they? Teeny - no 45 Anderson - It was more like a family in those early days, people, each one in the faculty knew other people, of course as it grew that couldn't last, but, in the beginning it was small. The Duncans gave a Halloween Party at Sbisa Hall and everybody came in costume. That sort of thing. People knew 45 each other and it was just a different atmosphere as you would expect. In the early days the community hadn't even been incorporated. That's another story. 46 Boyett - yea it is, that is. Well, I am going to conclude the interview now with the thanks of all concern. Thank you very much. 46