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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFaculty and Staff Panel 1L- Group 1 L L__ Interviewer: Ann Erdman Interviewees: Jim Cashion Pattie Caddes Knox Walker Harvey Caddes 1. K.W. Before I respond to your question, let me talk about the dimensions of campus housing and some of the general aspects of the place. I'll start with my parents: James Knox Walker and Alice Reba Dick, both A &M employees and who married in 1926, lived briefly in Bryan and then in 1926, rented a house on the campus on Lubbock Street (now Joe Routt). At that time and for years later, the campus was considered that section of A &M land east of what is now Wellborn (Highway 6 then). Though there were, perhaps, twenty College residences west of Wellborn on A &M land, these were not included in the campus. In any event, this somewhat arbitrarily designated campus enjoyed 103 residences in 1926; three were duplexes, two were two story two unit apartments; and there was a four unit apartment, the rest single family houses. Essentially, by 1926, the building of new houses on the campus for employees was over (two more were added in the 1930s). In fact, the last construction during the major building era probably took place about World War I time. There were two basic constructions used for the homes on the campus: large late nineteenth century Queen Anne types, squarish and airy and stolid houses. sometimes with two stories and always conveying a demeanor of authority and more money; and homes that clearly did not belong to the nineteenth century — bungalows, modern twentieth century structures that were smaller, that did not convey authority and money. The older and larger homes were the dominion of Texas A &M administrative personnel: Deans, administrative heads and sometimes department heads. An assistant professor in 1926, for example, need not apply for a Queen Anne. But neither should every administrative person at the school who sought • • campus housing. There simply were not enough Queen Annes to go around, and department heads and others often were relegated to the bungalows. Both types were wood frame, white painted houses, both equipped with brick flues and fireplaces for heating and cooking. There was no natural gas on the campus when these were built. But there were two other homes on the campus, both distinctly different from the wood frame structures. Located on Throckmorton, these two story homes stood back off the street among cedars and oaks, their exteriors finished in a smooth concrete process, not sculpted as stucco is worked. I'm sure that in their first year, whatever year that was, these were attractive homes, daringly new perhaps in their innovation and construction, promising a new direction for architecture. Perhaps — but by the 1930s the exteriors of both had collected stains and mildew and patches of moss; and as they stood now off Throckmorton, darkly, gloomily, they seemed more appropriate for the 1932 back lot of Universal Studios in Hollywood, a movie company that, at the time, was turning out horror movie after horror movie. Neither of the homes, however, was occupied by the Addams family. Rather typical A &M professorial people lived here, the O.M. Balls and the C.H. Winklers, Dr. Ball the Head of the Biology Department, Dr. Winkler the Director of the special Summer Session programs. (Oddly two more of these homes were built on College Road, about two - thirds the distance from the College to Bryan. From a distance they stood as gloomy and foreboding as those on the campus. A dead end, I think, had been reached here for this line of American architecture.) • • • Practical consideration and some snobbery seem to have dictated where one lived on the campus. Employees responsible for the physical maintenance of the College — electricians, plumbers, plant workers and others — lived primarily on four streets near the power plant and the Buildings and Grounds office. Academic types — professors, department. heads, administrative heads — lived elsewhere, on other streets somewhat west and south of the power plant, Houston and Throckmorton, the eastern boundary, old Highway 6, the western. Many of the streets on the campus remained unpaved and uncurbed until 1931 -32. Until then streets were topped with black cinders from the spent fuel of the power plant, not gravel. Campus housing not only provided convenient and cheap housing for employees, it also was the means by which a little extra money could be brought in. Residents commonly rented out that front bedroom to some other employee of the school, who had no house. So you had primary and secondary renters. And you had yet something else. A number of the homes enjoyed servant's quarters in the backyard, and these were commonly used for that purpose. Nobody was getting rich in 1926 and 1932 and 1937 working for A &M, but somehow folks scraped enough aside to hire servants. Jane and Ed Williams who lived on Lubbock Street across from the Walkers discovered a novel and extreme way of renting. During the summer short course season, when husbands and wives would flock to the campus for the special courses, Ed and Jane and two kids would move out of their house, and sleep on cots in the yard, renting the house to several attendees — retaining, of • course, kitchen and bathroom privilege. All of this, of course, was in addition to the permanent roomer who occupied the Williams' front bedroom. And there is more: in late 1936, Jane Williams took notice of the possibilities of the unused and rather cramped attic of her New England bungalow on Lubbock and, in her usual way, directed her husband to make such arrangements with Texas A &M that would allow the Williamses to civilize this skimpy attic with flooring, walls, electricity, plumbing, and a stairway — that it might be rented out to students. E.L. Williams, Department Head of Industrial Education, himself a skilled cabinet maker and carpenter, secured these rights and proceeded then to renovate the small attic of the bungalow. A lot of effort and trouble — and Williams' money — and it came to nothing: by 1938, the residents of the campus had got the word — the era of cheap and convenient housing at the school was nearing an end, and residents were advised to make other arrangements for housing, as soon as possible. Not to single out Ed and Jane Williams I would ask you to look about the neighborhood, across Lubbock from the Williamses where newly married Knox and Reba Walker kept the front bedroom of their one bath, small bungalow rented from 1926 to 1931 to ladies in the employ of the Texas Agricultural Extension Service. And on the departure of the last of those women, the Walkers boarded a nephew during his freshman year at A &M. As the nephew left for dormitory life during his sophomore year, a younger sister of Reba Walker moved in, yet another boarder, and she attended high school until 1934 at A&M Consolidated, the public school located on the campus. (My mother's sister, my aunt, had been struck with severe asthma at her home in Galveston, and her physician, hard pressed for a treatment, suggested that she leave Galveston and move to another town. Often, he said, that worked in asthma patients. It did.) Cut now from the Walker's house to that large Queen Anne at the corner of Lubbock and Throckmorton where Dean of the College F.C. Bolton and his family live, a man whose salary, obviously, is sharply above that of Ed Williams or Knox Walker. Yet for years the second story of the Bolton house has been rented by biology professor C.C. Doak and his wife. And across Throckmorton from the Boltons, to the south about one house, there is another Dean who rents. Dean and bachelor Charles Puryear, his residence taken care of by a housekeeper, rents out the second story. Well not everybody rented on the campus. And those that didn't cared not a whit that some did: that Ed and Jane Williams struggled to find yet another way to realize extra income from their A &M home, that the well paid Dean of the College enjoyed even more income from the second story of his Queen Anne. If these folks wanted to squeeze out a few more dollars out of the works, non - renting residents considered, well let them go and do it! In the process of urbanization of the Texas A &M campus, a body politic had evolved among the residents, and it constructed unannounced but understood standards, rather prim ones, of behavior and propriety. But renting a front bedroom or a Dean's second - story was never considered. The Walkers paid $13 a month for their bungalow during the 1930s, probably a representative figure for similar homes about the campus. Mary S • C Bolton Echols, daughter of Dean F.C. Bolton, remembers that the family paid about $35 a month for their Queen Anne. But there may have been other rental arrangements for a select few on the campus. Early in her tenure at A &M, the early 1920s, my mother learned from an administrative secretary that certain older members of the faculty, those who had been around at the turn of the century, were grandfathered by administrative fiat into free campus housing as long as they worked for the school. Mama, who wrote out that $13 check each month and who in a kind of private way believed that equity and fairness stood right up there with the other components of morality, found all of this repugnant. It mattered not at all to her that by 1930, there were probably fewer than three such families benefiting from this largesse. When she was an old lady she still grumbled about the matter. Anecdotal as this is, I wouldn't at all be surprised that such an arrangement had been struck. Too, there may have been other arrangements between A &M and renters, arrangements of paternalism. I remember, as a small boy in the middle 1930s, when a group of A &M Consolidated children called on the elderly faculty members of A &M, honoring them with baskets of May wildflowers. Among those visited was Dean Charles Puryear, long a venerable presence at the College, now a pathetically infirm old man, crippled, I suppose, by a stroke. Even as children I'm sure we wondered about this? — How could this man perform the duties of his title? I'm sure now that he didn't and that he hadn't for sometime. But he was allowed to live in that house on Throckmorton, a measure of kindness and decency I think. The accumulation of these several aspects of residential housing on the A &M • campus persuades me to believe that the school was granted — or took — a rather free hand in the administration of the homes. I'm glad they did — it's a delight to remember that once there had been in the same academic setting we see today, such a different world. Servant's quarters were mini - houses, equipped with electricity and plumbing and cooking facilities — each painted to match the house that stood in front of them, on Houston or Throckmorton or some other A &M street. Not every home on the campus was equipped with a servant house, their presence more common in the backyards of older homes. Servants on the campus were never referred to as servants, too highfalutin I suppose. "Maids" was the acceptable designation, although it was just as common to refer to a maid as a "girl ". Though she might be thirty or forty-five or sixty, she was a girl. Commonly they were black women or women of eastern European origin: Polish or Czech. Largely faceless people who came and went, they sometimes lived for years in their tiny houses, rather identified in the community with the family for whom they worked (and quite probably, it was only those families who knew their last names). Stella Roan, her mother born a slave, worked for my parents on the campus from 1932 to 1940; and after we left the campus in 1940, took a home in Bryan, Stella continued on until 1959 with the Walkers. Her daily wage in the 1930s was less than a dollar, and out of that she paid nearly a quarter for transporation to and from the Walker house (there was no servant's house behind I our campus home). She lived in an old dilapidated home in the country west of Bryan. Often she worked a seven -day week. Stella ate the same meals as we and she ate them standing in the Walker kitchen, by the sink, her eating utensils: her glass, her coffee cup, her plate, her knife and fork, always returned to and held on the back porch. When she needed to use the bathroom, she left our campus house, visiting the facilities of a friend who lived in a servant's house across the street. All of us recognized that Stella understood the margin and lines that described her world — but of the nouns and adjectives that came to her mind when she privately examined the substance of that world, we knew nothing. No one asked of course — that wasn't done. And too, curiosity in such matters then was as scant as a Hope diamond. She was a woman of thrift and probity. In the late 1930s, my father either lent her money or signed a note for her that she might build a house in Bryan. The house was built, and Stella took care of her obligations. My father died in the late summer of 1980, Stella a few days later. Servants in the decades of the 1920s and 1930s cleaned houses and tended children and often cooked — across a thousand Sundays in campus backyards, wringing the necks of twenty -five thousand chickens, the first step in that most conventional of Sunday meals: fried chicken. On Mondays they addressed the week's collection of dirty white shirts, table cloths, diapers, sheets and BVD's, kindling fires beneath large and black cast iron pots of blue water, the initial operation in the laundering process. Though commercial laundries were an option, many residents clung to the older way. • Memory is an odd thing — with the right nudge suddenly projecting frames of images of objects and people long forgotten. In considering this subject, I suddenly remembered someone, saw a face so long unremembered. She was Czech, probably no more than nineteen and she began working for the Williamses on Lubbock about 1931, when I was four. Her name Josie, her hair raven, she always wore a smile on her pretty face, a delightful smile. No matter the circumstance, Josie would find a smile. The neighborhood children loved her, this gentle girl who distinctly cared for them. She was there in the Williams' servant house for several years, and then one day she was gone, replaced by another girl. I never knew her last name — probably never asked — never knew what became of her, why she left. Several of the older homes were equipped with cisterns, large containers for rainfall that ran from the roofs. As much as anything, that water was important to the occupants for drinking. And for good reason. A new visitor approaching Texas A &M in 1926 in a Model T would likely have been struck by the prominence of two clapboard towers, one near the power plant, one off University (Sulphur Springs Road then). Gothic, forbidding looking things, probably seventy feet tall, sort of shaped like obelisks, these structures protected the pumps that lifted the school's water from the ground. And it was well water laden with hydrogen sulfide. Hydrogen sulfide smells like rotten eggs, but most on the campus apparently got used to the stuff. But if you had a cistern to trap rain water, you'd drink rain water. (A visitor making his second trip to the campus often brought along his own water.) • In 1926, and on into the thirties, there were sights within the residential district of the school that evoked things that had passed: Hay barns, barns with double doors in the second story, repositories for horse nutrition when horses had been used for wagons and transportation on the campus. And if you had, in 1926, visited that unusual looking several acres of land just east of Kyle Field, between Throckmorton and Houston, where the land forms in gentle valleys and acclivities, an elder employee might have explained that here the clay was mined and formed into bricks and baked to be used in the construction of the first wood - masonry buildings on the campus. (You can today still see the imprint of that brick - making operation east of Kyle Field.) And near the mining site, you would have noted too the eroded remnant of a dam that once caught water for a small lake on the campus. There was no natural gas on the campus in 1926. Not until three years later did residents get rid of coal grates and kerosene stoves in the kitchen and the several devices that heated water for dishes and baths. Natural gas had arrived. Prior to 1929, the school powered electrical generation with coal, bringing the fuel to the power plant by rail. A spur left the rail line that paralleled Wellborn, cutting across the northern edge of the campus and then on to the power plant. An additional spur ran from the plant to Sibisa Hall for some ( ?) reason. A &M had its own locomotive and kept it in a kind of garage near the power plant, a trove of opportunities for small boys who would climb up to the cab, imagining all sorts of daring things. Though gas had come to the College for power generation, coal continued to be hauled in during the 1930s, perhaps a backup should gas pressure fail (which, I remember, it did, on occasion). My parents weren't representative of the people who resided on the campus — but they weren't all that unrepresentative either. My father's parents, children during the Civil War, came to Texas with the multitude of Scotch -Irish who spilled out of Tennessee after the war. They settled near Azle, Texas, married and raised six sons. A sober, agricultural people, their faith was a kind of Calvinism — Presbyterianism, a persuasion that seems to have suggested that life's possibilities were largely cheerless and unsmiling. My father entered Texas A &M in the middle -teen years, studying civil engineering. Drafted in 1917 before he could finish, he entered and was commissioned in the fledgling Army Air Corps (in 1917 it was called the Air Service Organization, not Air Corps). After this he returned to A &M, graduated, and in 1920 was hired for a position in a two -man organization, the Branch College Department of Texas A &M (the other person was an accountant). Until 1946, they, the two of them, had the engineering and accounting responsibilities for the branch schools of Texas A &M: Prairie View, John Tarleton at Stephenville and North Texas at Denton. Mother's parents, again Scotch -Irish people (with a French insinuation), settled in Galveston County at Virginia Point, a tiny village on the mainland near the foot of the Galveston Island causeway that would be built some years later. Grandfather Jefferson Davis Dick ranched there and raised nine children on that salt marsh prairie; Mama, the third, was born in May, 1900, just in time for the hurricane of September 8 of that year. Hurricane forecasting in 1900 a primitive S science, the Dick family and many others in the community were slow to react and leave Virginia Point; and when they did it was hours too late: salt water had already risen dangerously. Belatedly my grandparents loaded a wagon late in the day with kids and neighbors and provisions, hitched up a team and struck out for La Marque, a small town to the north on higher ground. The water continuing to rise, floundering, half - drowning horses cut loose, the family floated all night. But they reached high ground; all survived. Nothing was left at Virginia Point, not a fence post. But the family went back; another home was built at Virginia Point. In 1900 Texans still did that, still went back and rebuilt — just as they had done on other Texas frontiers, sixty or fifty years before. The family of Jefferson Davis Dick may have been Scotch -Irish but it saw life's possibilities as something more than cheerless and unsmiling. The whole of them found a great deal to enjoy in this life. I think now that the nearness to the city of Galveston had much to do with that outlook. Galveston, Texas in the first two decades of this century stood apart from the agricultural heartland of the State and from all of urban Texas. It was not the Barbary Coast: it was a vigorously stimulating, almost cosmopolitan town, a seaport, an exporter of cotton; a town that attracted tourists to bathe (not swim) who wore bathing suits (not swimming suits) and who dined in elegance in restaurants that specialized in oyster dishes (shrimp were slow to be discovered). And it was in extravagance and subtlety, a venue for culture and entertainment. There was nothing unsmiling and cheerless about the city of Galveston, and the younger set of the agricultural sector of Galveston County knew it. Mama grew • up quite aware of the town. It was that awareness, I think, that focused her attention on the contradiction of the bright times of Galveston with the stark lot of women, like her mother, who were managed by some older obligation to produce and raise a house full of children, often in places remote from a civilized hand, a medical hand. After the Dick family went back to Virginia Point, another child had been born, her name Grace. And when the little girl was a few years old, she became desperately ill and word was sent to a doctor at Texas City, a small town on Galveston Bay six miles north of Virginia Point. The doctor, a day and a half later, was able to respond j arriving in his Ford at the Dick house in Virginia Point, but it was too late. Somewhere in the Virginia Point community, Jeff Dick found a photographer and a picture was taken of Grace as she lay there, a Mother Goose book at her side — she seems asleep. Grandmother Laura Dick had had enough, and the family moved to more civilized Texas City. Young Alice Rebra Dick took all of this into account. One of the independent, new modern women of the writers of the time, Alice Reba Dick chose not to finish high school, selecting instead a job at the well known department store Robert I. Cohen's in Galveston. She sold children's clothes there. A pretty woman, she was courted by several young men; and on warm Saturday evenings Reba Dick and a beaux would glide and posture to the music at the Tokyo Dance Hall, a large screened pavilion a few hundred yards from the Galveston beach — and a thousand miles from Virginia Point. The exterior of this place wore a brilliant green, its interior a marquis for a collection, row on row, of Japanese lanterns. Rotating in the center of the dance floor was a S device of illusion and mirrors, and in its process it cast lights of several colors on the turning dancers, on the Japanese lanterns. In 1917 and 1918, she was caught up in the dedication and conviction of those years, feeling emotions she had never known. Twenty -five years later, reminded by a new dedication and conviction and a song on the radio, she could remember how they would gather at the rail terminal in Galveston in 1917, when the soldiers — doughboys then — loaded on the train, and sing the neat little songs of the day, bidding the men goodbye. One day in 1918, a friend came into Cohen's and handed Mama a copy of the Galveston Tribune, drawing attention to an event that was going to be organized by the paper. "Reba," she said, "you got to enter this thing." Mama read the piece and she did. She entered. The Tribune, one of the two Galveston papers, had proposed a daring idea for a contest: a bunch of young women in bathing suits would compete, based on their obvious credentials, for the title of Miss Galveston. The Tribune declared proudly that this is the first time in this country's history that such a contest has been held. Reba Dick entered, won, and was honored with a diamond ring, and went back to selling kids' clothes at Robert I Cohen's. No Hollywood contract, that was it. Then in the summer of 1921, a slender man, about forty, prematurely gray, dressed in a white linen suit, polished in his speech, walked briskly into the children's department at Robert I Cohen's and asked Reba Dick for help. He and his family were visiting Galveston, he explained, and he needed bathing suits for his year and a half old twins. Reba addressed his request. This person always appreciated a good looking woman and when such a woman could skillfully • present merchandise, like children's bathing suits, as Mama had done, he was overwhelmed. After all, he knew a thing or two about clerks and sales. He bought two suits and laid out his business card before her: R.K. Chatham Mgr. Exchange Store Main Building Texas A &M College College Station, Texas If she ever wanted to leave Cohen's, he declared, she had a job at College Station, at the Exchange Store, in the Main Building of the College at Texas A &M, and he left. Mama took a hard look at this travelling stranger, rather chary of the entire matter, but she checked him out. There really was, she found, an Exchange Store at Texas A &M and the manager was a respected man of the community, R.K. Chatham. In 1922 during the summer she wrote Chatham: she wanted a change, did that job offer still hold? It did. And in August 1922, Alice Reba Dick with luggage, hatboxes and a steamer trunk arrived in Bryan, taking a room at Batts' Apartments, the new clerk at the Exchange Store on the campus at the College ... the new clerk soon to learn with shock and melancholy that the Chatham twins for whom she had selected bathing suits the year before had died after Christmas 1921. Vomiting, dehydration and specialists were brought in from Houston ... 1921 and 1921 medicine, no drugs, no sulfas, no penicillins. The children died. • A few weeks after her arrival in Bryan, one Saturday afternoon, her determination ratcheted up, Mama went into one of the downtown barbershops in Bryan. She sat down with three men ahead of her. Finally there was the appropriate "next" and Reba Dick approached the tentative, already guilt -laden barber, already aware of what she wanted, who would ask anyway what services he might provide? She told him and he proceeded. She left the shop, her hair now bobbed, the liberated woman, the new woman, who had just arrived in Bryan. Mama had never seen anything like the social structure of Bryan, Texas. Here was a small town with several good old families who lived in houses of some elegance and who, in a widely understood way, were regarded as arbiters of community standard and convention and culture; and who enjoyed the benefits of old money, and sometimes new money. And even when there was no more old money, she observed, when it was all gone. the creak and murmur of the right older attic counted for much in the Bryan society. In 1920 Sinclair Lewis published MAIN STREET, a critical analysis of the social structure and behavior in small mid - western towns. Mama never read this book but had she, she would have concluded that Lewis had written about Bryan, Texas. Reba Dick knew very well that she wasn't in Kansas, not even in Galveston, or Virginia Point. And this business about the Galveston Tribune bathing suit contest ... well, all of that would be inappropriate for the sensibilities of Brazos County. So she kept it quiet, nobly bearing the scarlet letter of her 1918 success in Galveston in confidence. About 1937, one of her younger sisters visiting us on the campus, blurted out the story of the 1918 bathing suit contest in go Galveston. Amazed at her celebrity , I went around the campus, announcing Mama's achievement. Sadly, by 1937 nobody gave a damn. Times had changed; beauty contests now were old hat. And after all, there were more important things to consider. We still were in a depression. An so in 1926, after a two year courtship, my parents married; two people, both Scotch - Irish; both employees of the Texas A &M, each seeing the life before them in a slightly different focus, and they married, always to agree on the more important things. And those more important things, I believe, characterized the outlook that prevailed among the colony that lived on the campus of Texas A &M. Thrift, forebearance and a tight rein on self - indulgence, as trite as that may seem today, were a ticket to success and survival in the era that I remember so well: the 1930s. Campus people were a conservative lot, having little time for untested ideas; abstractions were seen askance; the things that worked were the things you'd practiced all your life and to some extent things that you didn't already know were things that might not be worth knowing. Nearly everyone, was and in an unfortunate way, an Anglophile; even the folks of German extraction, who arrived in Texas on the heels of Anglos, were Anglophiles. It was perfectly and socially acceptable in conversation to discount the worth of citizens who had originated from the other parts Europe. In various ways, blatantly or subtly, there was a lot of ethnic discounting. What I didn't understand then, the 1930s, was that the nation in general thought and acted the same way as these people who lived in an academic setting at Texas A &M. • • Those are some of the things that strike my memory about the campus. I'm sure I've spoken with bias. It's hard not to do that. Anyway I'll get on with some of the other things that have stayed with me. • 4. I'm glad you asked. Sometime in 1929 my dad raised ten wild mallard ducks on the campus for no other reason than he liked ducks: liked to look at them, liked to hunt them (actually a chicken hen had hatched the ducklings). He raised them to adulthood, to that age that permitted flight. And fly they did. All over the campus. He had buried a galvanized live -stock watering trough in the backyard and that source of swimmable water seems to have always attracted them back to our backyard in the evening. But during the day they began to get into trouble: they would find flowerbeds and the like around the campus that were being watered. There were those good ladies on the campus who saw no rural persuasion, nothing moving or pastoral in a bunch of ducks in a flowerbed. And there were others who muttered that the Texas A &M campus, in the first place, was no habitat for wild or any other kind of duck. The ducks had to go. My father was sad about the matter a long while. Years later he would recall how beautiful the ducks were when they flew over Guion Hall. Later, he raised bantam chickens in our backyard but by then had become more politically astute, promptly presenting a gift of several of the bantams to Dean F.C. Bolton's grandson who was spending the summer with the Boltons. Those small chickens in the Dean of the College's yard, my father well knew, would make the entire campus safe for chickens. There were of course livestock belonging to the Animal Husbandry Department on the eastern side of the campus, east of Throckmorton Street, some distance from the residential area on the campus. But there were also livestock west of Throckmorton, in a pasture behind the S.W. Bilsing house on that street: a • few dairy cattle. Entomology Department Head Dr. Sherman Bilsing was in the milk business, delivering it himself. The Walkers were a customer in the late twenties. Only on the campus of Texas A &M! I remember another animal on the campus and it deserves remark. In the early thirties, Col. A.R. Emery, Head of Military Instruction for ROTC, moved on the campus on Throckmorton, a location perhaps two hundred yards from the Walker house on Lubbock. Among his possessions was a parrot, a bird that would learn to speak only a single word: one word, and that was the whole of the parrot's repertoire; and that word he learned from my mother. Mama was always calling me home, hollering out Knox, normally spoken in a single syllable. But she made two syllables out of Knox, the first ascending, the second modulated. A distinctive sound, the parrot liked it — and learned it well, never bothering to learn anything else. From ten in the morning till four in the afternoon, there was this litany of squawks and caws and my name from this parrot on the Emery's screened porch. It became a source of vast entertainment for the younger set on the campus, and I was constantly victimized by leers and smart remarks. The Colonel must have been reassigned about 1936, and he left the campus with the parrot and other possessions. Parrots are remarkably long -lived birds. Sometimes I darkly imagine that somewhere there is another generation of Emerys, and they've got the same bird on a back porch and it still knows but a single word. • 3. K.W. When I was a kid, I would listen to the visiting professors who would come by our house, and if there was a common subject, it was that of the physical hazing that went on in the Corps of Cadets, and what wasn't being done by the College Administration to correct the situation. The Corps at A &M in those days was an administrative body unto itself and defied being reined in. They had, and enjoyed, their own agenda. As vocal as visiting professors were in the privacy of a home, I doubt that they publicly spoke out. Many a gifted high school kid was routed to other Texas schools because of A &M's hazing. The school was a public institution, tax supported, yet extreme hazing was allowed to go on. All rather foolish now. Things began to change in the fall semester of 1946 when entering ROTC freshmen were isolated and schooled at the World War II Air Force installation west of Bryan, Bryan Field. A positive step, a little late, had been taken by the school. An individual who would later become the first A &M Chancellor, Gibb Gilchrist seems to have been responsible for this positive move. In a few years, freshmen were returned to the main campus, but the old days of the Corps were behind them. The physical hazing had been corralled, maybe not eliminated. Anyway, it wasn't the 1930s. • • 2. A &M Consolidated was created in the early twenties; several one -room schools were closed and the students off campus were bussed in. School was a mixture of kids from varying backgrounds. c I hereby give and grant to the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, City of College Station, Texas, for whatever purposes may be determined, the tape recordings, transcriptions, and contents of this oral history interview. Also, permission is hereby given for any duplications of original photos, documents, maps, etc. useful to the history project to be returned unharmed. 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Signature of Interviewe Place o HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE City of College Station, Texas 77840 ORAL HISTORY DATA SHEET terview List of photos. documents. mans. etc. Name 70 7 Sn o Address, yA Telephone Date of Birth Place of Birth INTERVIEW STATUS: Completed i.• JuL1 ► cfR Da ,/ 9, c Initial f}; LL U , ' '7 '7 03 9- il-783 11 -a6-(3 g r2yi AT "Tx In progress Interviewee agrees to and shall indemnify and hold harmless CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from and against any and all claims, losses, damages, causes of action, suits and liability of every kind, attorney's fees, for injury to or death of any person, or for damage to any property, arising out of or in connection with the use of the items and information referenced aboved by CITY, its agents, representatives, assigns, invitees, and participants under this grant. Such indemnity shall apply where the claims, losses damages, causes of action, suits or liability arise in whole or in part from the negligence of city. C • I hereby give and grant to the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, City of College Station, Texas, for whatever purposes may be determined, the tape recordings, transcriptions, and contents of this oral history interview. Also, permission is hereby given for any duplications of original photos, documents, maps, etc. useful to the history project to be returned unharmed. Interviewee releases, relinquishes and discharges CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from all claims, demands, and causes of action of every kind and character, including the cost of defense thereof, for any injury to, including the cost of defense thereof for any injury to, including death of, any person, whether that person be a third person, Interviewee, or an employee of either of the parties hereto, and any loss of or damage to property, whether the same be that either of the parties hereto or of third parties, caused by or alleged to be caused by, arising out of, or in connection with Interviewee provision of historical information, whether or not said claims, demands and causes of action in whole or in part are covered by insurance. x J. l ar'ie't Caddess Interview (Plea se print) Sig ture of Interviewee .-e In rviewer Print) Signature of Interviewer Place of erview List of photos. documents. mans. etc. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE City of College Station, Texas 77840 ORAL HISTORY DATA SHEET Name Address /07 5. ttaAwei( Dr- 7780 Date Initial Telephone Date of Birth 4-l4/ 1'10 c Place of Birth_wiLin a n R ZVL.S INTERVIEW STATUS: Completed In progress Interviewee agrees to and shall indemnify and hold harmless CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from and against any and all claims, losses, damages, causes of action, suits and liability of every kind, attorney's fees, for injury to or death of any person, or for damage to any property, arising out of or in connection with the use of the items and information referenced aboved by CITY, its agents, representatives, assigns, invitees, and participants under this grant. Such indemnity shall apply where the claims, losses damages, causes of action, suits or liability arise in whole or in part from the negligence of city. • c • I hereby give and grant to the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, City of College Station, Texas, for whatever purposes may be determined, the tape recordings, transcriptions, and contents of this oral history interview. Also, permission is hereby given for any duplications of original photos, documents, maps, etc. useful to the history project to be returned unharmed. Interviewee releases, relinquishes and discharges CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from all claims, demands, and causes of action of every kind and character, including the cost of defense thereof, for any injury to, including the cost of defense thereof for any injury to, including death of, any person, whether that person be a third person, Interviewee, or an employee of either of the parties hereto, and any loss of or damage to property, whether the same be that either of the parties hereto or of third parties, caused by or alleged to be caused by, arising out of, or in connection with Interviewee provision of historical information, whether or not said claims, demands and causes of action in whole or in part are covered by insurance. � (.W1 l . terviewee(P print) Q A AAA ture of Interviewee n v p rviewer (Please Print) Signature of Interviewer US Place of I}riterview List of photos. documents, mans. etc. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE City of College Station, Texas 77840 ORAL HISTORY DATA SHEET Name l'70(P roaLvi60 Fry ,7`)( Addr s d i d 7 - (4- Tele hone Date of Birth /6 //f/k6 Place of Birth o' ar.,,T)c INTERVIEW STATUS: Completed Interviewee agrees to and shall indemnify and hold harmless CITY, its officers, agents and employees, from and against any and all claims, losses, damages, causes of action, suits and liability of every kind, attorney's fees, for injury to or death of any person, or for damage to any property, arising out of or in connection with the use of the items and information referenced aboved by CITY, its agents, representatives, assigns, invitees, and participants under this grant. Such indemnity shall apply where the claims, losses damages, causes of action, suits or liability arise in whole or in part from the negligence of city. Date Initial In progress • The City of College Station, Texas Memory Lanes Oral History Project • The purpose of The Historic Preservation Committee is to gather and preserve historical documents by means of the tape- recorded interview. Tape recordings and transcripts resulting from such interviews become part of the archives of The City of College Station Historic Preservation Committee and Conference Center Advisory Committee to be used for whatever purposes may be determined. with : 1. t(C■ 2. 3 . a/ ( cd.i 4. ['fl 5. 6. INTERVIEW AGREEMENT I have read the above and voluntarily offer my portion of the interviews (Name of Interviewee) 14 IV 1 C 5 Date 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. In view of the scholarly value of this research material, I hereby assign rights, title, and interest pertaining to it to The City of College Station Historic Preservation Committee and Conferenc Center Advisory C mmittee. Interviewer (signature) Interviewer (Please Print)