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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAlbert Novak TranscriptionCity of College Station Heritage Programs Oral History Interviewee: Albert Novak Interviewer: Tom Turbiville Transcriber: Brooke Linsenbardt Place: College Station, Texas Project: Veterans of the Valley 00:00: Albert Novak (AN): I got. And then they average seven months and that’s it. They go a little, a little [inaudible] the same thing. 00:14: Tom Turberville (TT): Yeah, yeah, yeah down in Houston. Well how do you feel though? 00:19: AN: Well, I tend to feel, right now I feel real good. TT: Yeah? 00:22: AN: I don’t have much taste [inaudible] the time. And, and I still got congested heart failure too. And I, I, I walk maybe thirty feet and I have to rest. But I can rest in, in, in just a few seconds and. TT: And then you’re ready to go again. I see, I see. 00:43: AN: I used to, up until this thing hit me, I was walking two and a half miles a day now. TT: Is that right? 00:49: AN: Now I’m doing good if I get two and a half miles a year I think. TT: Yeah, yeah. So do you live here by yourself? 00:56: AN: My daughter lives with me. TT: Your daughter lives with ya? I see, I see. How old are you? 01:02: AN: I’ll be 80-, 85 in September. TT: 85. How long have you lived here? 01:09: AN: Since 1970-, ’75. TT: ’75? Well tell me about your, where did you grow up? Sort of give me a little biography of yourself and. 01:22: AN: I grew up here in Bryan. I was born and raised here. And I, uh, I, I, I, used to know the biggest, most, most of people in town. The town about 6,000 dollar, 6,000 people. And I, I [inaudible] different kinds of papers. The, the one [inaudible] that delivered seven. And I don’t know, you may have known Ruben Bond, he used to have the [inaudible] delivered. The [inaudible] delivered. He’d go and, and the word for the Western Union. So I knew, I knew, either knew or knew of mo-, mo-, most, most of the people in Bryan at that time. TT: Did you grow up here in north Bryan? Or where? 02:05: AN: No it’s over, over, about on Cole, Cole Street up there, against off University Avenue. TT: I see. I see. So where did you go to school? 02:17: AN: I went, I went school in Bryan. TT: At Bryan, at Stephen F. Austin? 02:21: AN: Yeah. Class of ’65. We just had a reunion about, about a month ago. And. TT: Yeah? What class? 02:30: AN: ’42. TT: ’42? 02:32: AN: Yeah, we just lost Joby, Joby Rivena. TT: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She, that’s right yeah, J.J.’s momma. Yeah. I, I know, I read about that. Um, and then you. So talk about your service. When did you, enlist and? 02:55: AN: Well I, most of my friends went into the Navy and they wrote me how good the Navy was and all this stuff so, and in Sue Lo Henderson’s History of Geography. Uh, I was afraid I was gonna get drafted. I had, I got a slightly deformed right hand so I, I wrote to Navy and I had, I had a hernia too. And the, the, the third time I wrote ‘em I said if I, I’ll sign a piece of paper that states they can fix me the hernia, they’ll take me. Well they, they took me, they never did fix the hernia. I got that after I got out. TT: Right. 03:34: AN: So uh, I, I, th-, the, the guys in Navy, they were talking about had a clean place to sleep every night and had three meals a day. And, and you moved around. You got and you didn’t get stuck in, in, in one place. I, I enlisted and I, I tried to enlist with the, you probably heard the Houston Volunteers. TT: Hmm-hmm. 03:58: AN: Well they, well they recruited abou-, about fourteen, fourteen people to replace them. TT: Right. 04:05: AN: I tried to get in on that, they, they wouldn’t, they wouldn’t take me on that either. And so I enlisted and went to, went to San Diego for boot training. And from there I went to uh, University of Minnesota at St., St. Paul campus. And I was trained, trained to be a machinist mate. And it’s odd in, in sixteen weeks I become a auto mechanic, a diesel mechanic, a, a, a, uh laser operator, a, arc welder, a, a [inaudible]. [chuckle] An air condition specialist. TT: Right? [chuckle] 04:51: AN: A diesel mechanic. [chuckle] And then from there I went to. TT: [chuckle] And you learned all that in Minnesota? 04:59: AN: Ye, yeah. TT: Yeah, uh-huh. 5:01: AN: That, that in sixteen weeks. TT: Right. 05:03: AN: And then I went to uh, Virginia. Norfolk Virginia. And, and called. I had a C-plane tender and we, we, we were lifting mostly with cargo, but, but all the way from Bermuda, down to, Trinidad, Panama, south Brazil, and, and had to, we, we had to fight those subs, those subs was on the Amazon river. TT: Yeah. What kind of boat were you on? 05:38: AN: Th-, th-, this was a sea plane, sea plane tender. TT: Oh sea plane okay. Okay. 05:41: AN: Used as a, as, as a more or less as a cargo. TT: Right. 05:45: AN: And then after six months of that I transferred, went aboard the U.S.S. Marshall, an air-craft carrier. TT: Yes sir. 05:53: AN: And, stayed on that thing I, [inaudible] went over in, in November ’43 and I got off of in December ’40, ’45. TT: ’45? Okay, so you were there for two years? 06:06: And, we went all over, all over the Pacific from in, all the way from the Australia up, up to, to Japan. TT: Where did you leave from? Were you back on the west coast again? Where, where did you embark? 06:21: AN: We, we worked out of Ha-Hawaii most of time. TT: Okay. 06:25: AN: Most time we’re out at sea. These, these people talk about going on cruises. In fact some of, of the, the ship has a reunion every year and these idiots even going on a, on a cruise. I tell ‘em, “I spent nine months ‘fore I got, got, got ashore and I don’t care to go cruise the sea.” TT: [chuckle] You’ve cruised enough. [chuckle] So the U.S.S. Wasp was a carrier? 06:47: AN: Yeah, air craft carrier. TT: And it worked mostly out of Hawaii? 06:51: AN: It, well. Yeah, Hawaii was, but, but like, I say most time we, we were just, we was out in the, uh, in these small islands. They can go one and another, and the other, and the other, and the other. TT: So where all did you go? Where, where, what, what battles were you, did you see? 07:07: AN: [Inaudible]. No I, ain’t battles all together. I don’t remember what they were but uh, Eni-, Eniwetok. And uh, Ulithi, Palau, and [inaudible]. And, an-, but, but most of the sweepings out on the, you know, on Iwo-, Iwo Jima. And. And, all at Okinawa. In fact that’s, the, the Wasp shot the last kamikaze down that. You know, the kamikaze, they, they, they were attacking the ships and, and we, we got the, we got the last kami-, kami-, kaze. TT: The last one didn’t, didn’t get you, you got him. 07:44: AN: But in the meantime, oh in 19, 19th of March, 1945, we had, we’d been a battle there, they said, we move back. And now uh, we, we secured from General Quarters. And a Japanese uh, planes got in the landing pattern and dropped a five hundred, a five hundred pound bomb. And what it was is uh, [inaudible] from General quarters. In [inaudible] they run down the mess hall, get in line. Well that, that bomb went through seven decks and exploded underneath the galley, or the, the kitchen where, where they eating. Then the guy get killed. One hundred guys and then. TT: Where were you? 08:38: AN: Huh? TT: Where were you? 08:40: AN: Well I was, I was at, at a fire control station, threw me. Oh, it threw me about thirty, thirty feet of, of, of across the walls. And then I ended up in a coma for about, I don’t know, about four or five days, in the sickbed [inaudible]. And. TT: Just, with, with head injuries or? 08:59: AN: What? TT: With head injury? Or. 09:02: AN: Well with a back injury. I had a, I got a cut and a burn on, on, on my back. TT: Yeah. 09:05: AN: But I had a, I did have a concussion. TT: Right. 09:08: AN: But, uh, it, I, I, nothing ever, ever came with that. I mean like I say, I was in a coma there for about four or five days. And. TT: Right. But you stayed on the ship? In the, in the sick bay there? 09:21: Yeah. TT: On the, on the Wasp? 09:22: AN: Yeah. We stayed there in sick bay. And, and then we, uh, later on we come in the [inaudible]. And, and, and had, had, all the, all of that stuff fixed. TT: Yeah, yeah. Now is that where you won your Purple Heart? From that? 09:41: AN: That’s where, that’s where I got the Purple Heart. TT: From that incidence. 09:44: AN: From that incidence. TT: And what was that date again? 09:47: AN: 19th of March, 1945. TT: That’s something you’ll never forget. And about a hundred people were killed in that? 09:57: AN: Yeah, about a hundred and fifty wounded. TT: Right. 10:00: AN: And like I say, they was all going down, going down the mess hall to get, to get chow and, uh that guy just sneaked in there. They were, [inaudible] I don’t how he sneaked there, but landed there. And he, he just dropped that thing. TT: Right. So you spent your time though on the carrier. I mean you. 10:19: AN: Yeah, I started the, most, mo-, most my, all but six months of it, we, I was on the carrier. TT: You were on the carrier. And what, did you do a little bit of everything? What was your main job? I mean you, you knew how to do everything right? [chuckle] 10:29: AN: Well my, my main job. So I had the heating, I had the heating system of the ship. I had to heat, heat the ship because when, when we, we moved a little north, it got cold. And. And then, then I had to see that the steam got to the, got to the galley for the, for, for, for the, for cooking. And, and, and I, I just had to have all, all the steam. TT: Right. 10:56: AN: And heat, heat, heating of the ship and all that. TT: I see, I see. So you were on that ship for how long? On the Wasp. 11:05: AN: Well I was on it in uh, in No-, November of ’40, ’43. TT: Of ’43. 11:12: AN: Yeah, we went down shake-down cruise to uh uh Trinidad. And, then went back, w-, we went back to Boston again and got the kinks out and then went through, through the canal. TT: Through the canal. 11:29: And I, I just stayed aboard it all the time. TT: So you were there from Boston all the way around to Hawaii and then. 11:35: AN: Yeah. TT: And then to the different islands. So you were on that ship for over two years. 11:41: AN: Almost. TT: Almost two years. 11:42: AN: Yeah. TT: Until you were discharged? Or were you there until the end of the? The war ended in. 11:45: AN: Well no. I. We, we converted, right, right after the war. We, we converted to, to troop ship. And we went to, and then pick-, picked up five thousand troops over there. And hauled them back. And then, uh, on the way back, we got a word of [inaudible]. So, I got an emergency meeting. And. And then, then, they sent me to Camp Wallace, which is gone, it’s a, kind of a [inaudible] city. And I was discharged there in 1946. And then. TT: So where were you when the, when the bomb was dropped? 12:31: AN: I was somewhere out to sea because they, they, they, the ship published the bulletin every morning, news. And I couldn’t believe, I, I couldn’t believe that, that one thing could be as powerful as twenty-thousand two-hundred TNT. TT: Right. 12:48: AN: And, well after, after I got discharged I, oh worked at different, odd jobs. I, I went to, went to look into the ads. A, a business school. [Inaudible] Business College. I wonder whether you’ve ever heard of that. TT: Hmm-hmm. Sure. 13:10: AN: And, so went to there and went down to Houston to work for a little while. And, and then come back uh, here. [Inaudible] got me a job with a uh, international furniture company. I don’t know where you do, do, do, do, or, or get more places at, at, at [inaudible] Furniture Company. I was, I was, I was the office manager of that but, they had a reduction in force. After about eight or nine months, may-, maybe about nine months then [noise signifying a person was cut from a job], I, I was, I was a reduction. So fooling around and finally went to work for [inaudible], he had a lumber company. [Inaudible]. You know, he was, he was a playboy. Hershel Burgess set him up in business. And, he was paying me $37.50 a week as a bookkeeper. And uh, I had to wear a white shirt and a tie and I spent 75% of, of that delivering lumber with, with a tie. TT: I see. [chuckle] 14:15: AN: So, and so, [inaudible], he had, hi-,hi-,hi-, his foreman was renting a place for him. He was the bid and he was paying him $125 a week. [chuckle] That, that was different. [Inaudible] didn’t know nothing, about all he do, he’d just come and grab some money in the cash register and go out and have fun. TT: Yeah. [chuckle] 14:36: AN: And, and after I lost that job, I sat around and I just couldn’t find nothing. There was nothing around here. I hate it. I didn’t want to go down to Houston again. So, a guy I knew who, rrr-recruiter, he got me a job in, in the Army as a corporal. I wanted to go into Air Force, but I couldn’t go in the Air Force because I had a wife and child. And they wouldn’t take me on the count of, having two dependents, if I’d have one, they would’ve took me so. And he said, “Let’s go down to Houston.” And went down there and then so. And I never could figure out why. Washington couldn’t give me, couldn’t give me that rank, but a master sergeant down there in Houston, give me corporal. [chuckle] So. TT: Right. [chuckle] So what rank were you in the Navy when, when you finished there? 15:28: AN: I was a machinist base-second class. TT: Machinist base-second class. So now you’re in the Army and you’re a corporal. 15:34: AN: Yeah, I’m, well, well what it is, I had to go in as a plumber. Because that’s, they, they couldn’t get anything to jive with me, which is, finally I ended up as a clerk and I ended up pushing paper in the, in the Army. I, I was well sitting there in school in at, at, Fort, Fort Lee, Virginia, and then I went to Fort Knox and Fort Sam Houston, and from, before Sam Houston, I went on recruiting duty in Albuquerque. And I, I was drafting, and I was drafting Indians. I was using, using interpreters ‘cause they’d come out off in the papers. Man, they, they scratching the bottom of the barrel, they even, the people can’t even speak English. And they called those [inaudible]. I went looking for, the record, those are the people that I drafted. Indians. They speak Spanish. TT: Right, right. 16:23: AN: And then when I. TT: So you were an Army recruiter. 16:29: AN: Well I wasn’t, I wasn’t a recruiter. I, I, I, I, I, was uh, I was drafted what they’re doing. TT: I see. 16:36: AN: I had to type up. TT: You were doing the paperwork. 16:39: AN: I had to do the paperwork. I had to drive the bus. I, I had to do everything. One man. It, it, it was about a three-man job, but I was working it, hell I was working sometimes 18 hours a day. They finally got me, one idiot that was supposed to be a typist, and he didn’t even know what a type writer looks like. [chuckle] TT: Right. Now where, where did you do this job? Where were you? 17:02: AN: This was in Albuquerque. TT: In Albuquerque, New Mexico. Okay. 17:05: AN: And then, when the time come up to reenlist, they said everybody that ree-, reenlist goes Korea, the ’47, ’45. That’s a light whip infantryman. And I’d been pushing paper for years and I was 32 years old at the time and I’m thinking, that’s too old to start, start pushing, carrying a rifle, so, I got out and I come up to Bryan, Bryan Air Force base, enlisted, enlisted in the Air Force there. TT: [chuckle] So you’re Navy, Army, now Air Force. 17:37: AN: Yeah. TT: So, okay. 17:39: AN: And. TT: That’s just great. [phone rings] TT: So what year, what year would this have been? That you came back to Bryan Air Force base? 17:53: AN: In, in 1953. TT: ’53, okay. 17:56: AN: And, I stayed here. I stayed in Bryan Air Force base about a year and a half. And I did go to Korea, but it was in the air, but not as a rifleman. And, and from there I went to Amarillo. And uh, and uh Amarillo. I reenlisted, for Bryan again. And then I got it, and, and uh, in, the meantime I put in for papers ROTC out here at A&M. ‘Cause that, that was, that was a fat cat job. So I, I got, I got the job. I did, I did four and a half years in ROTC as a paper pusher at A, at A, A&M. TT: Working over for the, the common [inaudible] over in the, the ROTC office. 18:43: AN: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I worked for the common, I, I, I commissioned the people. I, I typed up all the, all the paperwork and the commission documents. TT: I see, I see. Now you say you went to Korea for a short time? 18:53: AN: I, I spent a year there. TT: In Korea. During the war? 18:58: AN: Well it was over. TT: The war was over, okay. 19:00: AN: 1955. TT: This was kind of clean-up duty from? 19:03: AN: Yeah. And. And then from, from A&M I went to Elmendorf, Alaska. Stayed there for four and a half years and, and I was sweating getting transferred to Minot, North Dakota cause it’s cold! TT: Oh, yeah. [chuckle] 19:23: AN: It’s cold there. But, I got one just as bad, or worse, it was Kincheloe, Michigan. And it was right on, right on Lake Superior, you get that wind, it’d get 45, 50 below degree, there. And then from, I stayed there for four years. And from there I, I transferred, I tried to get back to Alaska again. I wanted to, I wanted to go to Alaska because I’d like to retire there. TT: Yeah. 19:48: AN: But. I, I had, I wanted to make some contacts there because when I retire, I was drawing $635 dollars a month. And that would just pay the rent. TT: Right. 20:00: AN: So from, from Kincheloe, Michigan, I went to McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, Washington and that’s where I got discharged. TT: I see. 20:10: AN: Got discharged and. TT: How long did you spend there? 20:13: AN: I, I, I spent, I spent, well I went there. I got there in 1970. And left there in ‘70-, ’74. TT: ’74? 20:26: AN: Yeah. TT: Okay. 20:27: AN: I retired at 30, June 1970, ’74. TT: Okay. 20:30: AN: I beat the system because they figure, retire, the average life of retiree is six to eight years. TT: Yeah. 20:36: AN: And I’m, I’m, I’m running right now at 31 year. Uh, my brother. He, he did 31 years in the Army. And another did 22 years in, in the, in the, Air Force. And then my younger brother, he did 4, 4 years in the Army. And, but between the, between the four of us, we got 85 years of active duty. TT: So you were, from the time you first enlisted in the Navy, to when you were discharged from the Air Force, that was about what? Thirty-five years? 21:17: AN: Yeah, yeah. Thirty, close. [Inaudible] TT: You, you, you enlisted in ’40, ’42? ’41? 21:25: AN: Thirty, thirty-three years. TT: Yeah, thirty-three years. 21:27: AN: Thirty-three years. TT: ‘Cause you enlisted in ’43 right? 21:32: AN: Uh. Pardon? TT: You enlisted in ’43? 21:33: AN: ’42. TT: In ’42. 21:35: AN: [Inaudible]’42, yeah. TT: And then you were. 21:36: AN: But I had breaks in between them. TT: Yeah, and then you were discharged in, in ’74. 21:41: AN: Yeah. TT: Yeah, I see. 21:42: AN: I, I tell people I’m, uh, I’m wearing my discharge button and, and they say, “Well boy, you’re wearing three of ‘em.” I got, I, I did service three, service, retire from three of ‘em. TT: Right. My goodness gracious. Wow. And, I mean what have you been doing since 1974? 22:03: AN: Well uh. I, I, I, I, in about 1970, 7, ’78, I went to work for as a, as, as, on my own for [inaudible]. I did, I did, did [inaudible] maintenance. And, and that’s when they used to keep the stores up. If they, if a tile come up, that’d guy wanna replace now, but a tile comes up, six months later somebody’s gonna come replace that thing. The stores I, nothing. I got. I use., I used to make as much as, I made as much as $2,000 dollars a month there, just, just doin’, doin’ minor stuff like fixing faucets. Uh, uh, layin’, layin’ floor tile, maybe ceiling tile or painting or doing something like. I’m doing a little. I’m doing everything but major, major plumbing. And, uh, major, uh, electricity. And I didn’t fool, didn’t fool with, refrigeration or air conditioning. So I did, I stayed with them about twenty-two years until, the last year they got, they got so-, some cheap that, I’ve I’ve have, get two million dollars worth of uh, liability insurance, which cost me $800 dollars a year. And in this year, I pulled $900 dollars, $900 dollars, from in time I figured, I figured my gas and everything had cost me $35 dollars to work for $10 billion dollar cor-, cor-, corporation. I figured it time to quit. TT: Yeah. 23:40: AN: Well I got out, uh, in 1996, I had a quadruple bypass. And so well, I. I started slowing down. And I getting when I have to sit down to do all those jobs. But. So I’m thinking I better quit. I, I really made those people some money because I was doing a job which I kind of felt guilty, replacing a wheel of a, of a pallet jack. I charged them uh $145 dollars; it took me about 30 minutes to do it. But then they get people out of Houston, they do the same job for $400 dollars so I figured well I, I, I, I’m not chipping them as bad as they are. TT: [laugh] Now you have one daughter, is that right? 24:28: AN: I got three daughters. TT: You got three daughters. 24:29: AN: I’ve got three daughters, I’ve got three grandsons, and one great-grandson. TT: Oh my goodness. And, and one daughter lives with you. 24:36: AN: Yeah. TT: Where are the other two? 24:39: AN: Well the other two uh, they’re, they’re both, one lives in Hearne. She, she works for, Convenience Bank. And. And then, and then my other daughter works, in some kind of an insurance. They, they, they get the insurance company together. She works out at [inaudible] Building out, out of the, out of the, on, on the bypass. TT: Right. 25:06: AN: She lives, she lives on other side of Snook. TT: I see. And your daughter that lives with you, what does she do? 25:12: AN: She, she works with the, the Hamilton Unit. TT: I see. 25:13: AN: I don’t know what she does but she. TT: Yeah. And you got how many grandchildren? 25:21: AN: I’ve got, I’ve got three grandchildren. And one grandchild. Great-grandchild. TT: And how many great-grandchild? And one great-grandchild. 25:26: AN: Yeah. TT: I’ll be darned. Now. I, I suppose you, your, your wife’s no longer living? 25:35: AN: No she died in 9, 1999. TT: In ’99? 25:38: AN: Yeah. TT: What was her name? 25:40: AN: Oleta. TT: How long were you all married? 25:43: AN: Fifty-three and a half years. TT: Fifty-three and a half years. And you all lived, you all lived right here? 25:49: AN: Well. We lived from, from 70, ’75 till oh ’99, we lived here. We were, we were moving from. Oh I say every, every four years, we’re moving from to another base. TT: Right. Right. Well this is fascinating. I don’t think I’ve ever interviewed anybody on my T.V. show that was in all three services. I’ve done two, but not three. I think you’ll be the first one who’s done all three. 26:14: AN: Okay, well I. I wanna throw up a guy in Texas Tech Heritage Center in Lagrange. Got talking to him. And he did it, in, in, in the Marines. TT: Well, he did in the Marines too? [chuckle] 26:27: AN: I said. I said, “What happened?” He says, “I lost my head.” But he, he, he did four, four services. He did. I run across one other guy that did three, he’s the first one I run across that did four. TT: Yeah, yeah. 26:39: AN: And see, these people don’t realize that, that at that time, [inaudible] in the Coast Guard or Navy or any, it, it down-totaled retirement. TT: Sure. Right. 26:52: AN: And I, I think, the best thing is that ever happened to me was when [inaudible] fired me, because if I’d had stayed with him, I would have had no retirement whatsoever. TT: Right. 27:00: AN: And, and I, I, with the Air Force, I got a good retirement. I got 100% disability on my heart so, so I’m drawing, uh, I, I’m drawing a, a V.A., V.A. pay and I’m and I’m drawing my retired pay. TT: Right. 27:20: AN: I’m, what, what you call a triple dipper because I got social security too. TT: Right. 27:23: AN: And a lot of people do-, don’t, don’t realize that, that, First of June, 1957, military started payin’ social security. And so we, we, it wasn’t much. I mean you, like I say my pay wasn’t much. And then when I went in, when I went in the Army in, in, in 1950 the, the, the corporal was drawing $120 dollars a month. And they, they talking about uh, now that these, that these military are underpaid. But now I left the military, I, my, my base pay was $953 dollars as a, as a E-, as a E-7. A master sergeant. Now a master sergeant, he drawing something like $5800 dollars a month, so. Qu-, qu-, quite a bit of difference. TT: Yeah. 28:14: AN: And, and that, that’s uh, the-, the-, then he, then he gets his rations and he gets his house and so he’s pulling in uh, a master sergeant with 28, 28 years service, which I had, is, I’d say he’s pulling in close to $7000 dollars a month, which that ain’t bad money. TT: No sir. No sir. Well this is a tremendous story. And, and I, I look forward to telling it on my show. I really do. I’m honored to, to, to tell it. Do you have, do you have any photographs at all? 28:53: AN: Well I have uh. I think I got a 8x10 of myself. TT: Right. 28:56: AN: And I think, uh I’ve been meaning to go through a, a box up here that is, that’s [inaudible] 8, 5, 5 something of younger. You, you want a young, young. [chuckle] Yeah. TT: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s what I’m looking for. But I need to, I need to scan them on my computer and send them over. Can, can you maybe go through some stuff and maybe I come back tomorrow? Can you pick out some things? 29:24: I’ll, I’ll, I’ll try to see if I can find something. TT: Will you do that? And I’ll come back tomorrow and pick some stuff up and then I’ll give it back to you on Thursday. 29:33: AN: Okay. Thursday is when you wanna interview? TT: Yeah, and I’ll come and getcha. 29:37: AN: That’s the, I, I, I think Thursday afternoon I got a chemo treatment. TT: What time? 29:43: AN: I don’t know. I’d have to, I’d have to check it uh. TT: Yeah, we need to find that out because if we need to do it at another time. If we need to. 29:53: AN: I, I think, I think it’s somewhere around 2:00 o’clock. I’m not sure. It may be the 10 o’clock or 2 o’clock, I’m not sure. TT: Well can you go in and find out? Or can we, ‘cause I need to know that, what time your chemo treatment is. ‘Cause we do this in the afternoon. If you need to change it, I kind of need to know. I don’t mind coming in your house. [walk into house] 30:17: AN: They have five or six medal of honor winners listed out there. And those should be the only one. Eli Whiteley should be the only one there. He was, he was the only one from this area. The rest of them I consider them transfer. They’re Aggies. And that’s, that is the reason that they were put there, just because, just because they’re Aggies. TT: I see. 30:36: AN: And now. And then Liam Stewart died yesterday. TT: Right, okay. 30:40: AN: They, they, they went up there and they named the, the walkway after him. That should have been named after Eli Whiteley, not, not, not Lance [Last Name?] the way I see it. TT: Right. 30:56: AN: Okay. I, I told him, I know personally, thirteen people that had got killed during World War II. And I knew six of their P.O.W.s. They should have listed the people who got killed and they should’ve got, should’ve listed the people who P.O.W. And then they come up here begging $100 bucks to put your name on there, and they spend $85 dollars for a piece of tin from the, fro-, from the World Trade Center. But to me it has nothing whatsoever to do with, with, with, with, the veterans. I don’t know what your opinion is. TT: Well no, I, I, I respect your opinion. I, I, I do. And yeah, I, I, I agree to an extent to what your sayin’. But I understand why you’re, you’re not on it. And, and I respect your opinion. 31:41: And me and, and, and no, no, three brothers, they, they’re not on it. TT: Right, right. 31:46: AN: But I say it. What really burned me up is when they come up and, and, and they got that piece of tin from the and they spent $85,000 dollars from A&M to sit it on. When you’re begging for nickels and dimes to people to put your name on there. TT: [chuckle] Well we won’t talk about that on the show. But I respect your opinion, I really do. Well I tell you what, if you could though sometime tonight, go through and find me. I’d like that one picture that you talked about of you when you were young. And then you said you might have some others in a box somewhere. 32:20: AN: Well yeah, I, I’ll have to see. Well. TT: If you could, if you could find me ten pictures or less. 32:27: AN I, I doubt I could find. TT: Well four or five then. Okay. 32:30: AN: Okay see what it is, since I found out since I had this cancer, it’s not, my house. I had trails in there just, just getting in there. And the kids the-, they moved. Well they threw lot, lots of, lots of it, ended up in the dump. And they moved stuff around so it may be pretty hard to find some of it. TT: When does your daughter get home? 32:49: AN: Oh, anywhere from 5:30 on. TT: Well if I give her a call tonight ,and maybe she might help you get it down and maybe go through some stuff maybe? 32:59: AN: Well I’ll, I’ll, I’ll ask her, see if she. TT: Okay. 33:01: AN: See if she can find something. TT: What’s your daughter’s name that lives here? 33:04: AN: Lenora. TT: Lenora. Okay. Yeah, ask her if yo-, you know, and if we can only get just that one picture that you, that you, that you talked about. Now is that one easy to come by? 33:14: AN: I, I think I’ve got one. I think I’ve got one that is, is, is 8x, 8x10. [Inaudible] Will, will that work? TT: Yeah. 33:24: AN: [Inaudible] I’ll, I’ll go through this afternoon and see, see what I can do. TT: Okay, and I’ll give you a call tomorrow, I’ll give you a call tomorrow and see what time would be a good time for me to come by and pick those, pick that up. 33:34: AN: Oh I got some. Oh, I may come up with something o-, over. Well when, they, they were taken within the last three or four, five years. And. TT: Yeah. Whatever you wanna, whatever you wanna give me. I obviously I like the ones you know from, from your, your service days you know. 33:53: AN: I, I, I know I’ve got one small. Or I had it but it, it was cracked. I don’t know, I don’t know whether you, you. TT: No that would, that would be fine. Yeah. 34:03: AN: It uh. You [inaudible]. It, it’s an individual. I think it about a 3, 3x5. TT: No that would be fine. But if you come up with. If that 8x10. It’s a 8x10 on the wall in there? 34:15: AN: I don’t know where it is. TT: You don’t know where it is? Okay. But if you could get that one that would be great. Or anything you can come up with. If you have a picture with you and some, some buddies on the carrier or anything like that. You know if you could give me, whatever you can come up with. 34:27: AN: Okay. I. I got. I’ve got a lady friend. 80, 86 year old lady friend. I, I’ve got some pictures I’ve taken with her recently. TT: Uh-huh. Whatever you wanna, you know, whatever you wanna give me. But obviously I prefer the ones from back in your service if you, if you, you had anything like that. What I’ll do, I’ll call you tomorrow and, and if you could go through them tonight and see what you could come up with and I’ll call you tomorrow and come back out and pick those up. 34:55: AN: Well how, how long is that thing gonna take out there? TT: It’ll take. I’ll pick up at 2:00, we start taping at 2:30. It’s a thirty minute show. You’ll be done by 3:15 and I should have you back here by 3:30, quarter to 4:00, tomorrow afternoon. 35:15: AN: I, I think I could drive, but I don’t wanna get on the road TT: No I’ll pick you up. 35:17: AN: And, and, and be in the, these old folks that I get pissed off driving five to ten miles an hour. TT: [laughs] No I’ll be glad to pick you up. I’ll be honored to pick you up. That won’t be a problem and I’ll deliver you right back here again. And. But. 35:34: AN: Could, could I get a, could I get a, a tape or. TT: Yes sir, you’ll get a tape and a DVD. Both, both. Tape and a DVD of it. And we’re gonna put it on the air pretty quick. It’ll actually be on the air I think August the 3rd, 4th, and 5th. 35:50: AN: When, when is John gonna be [blazin’?]. Is that tomorrow night? TT: Yeah, he’ll be on this weekend. It’s Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. 35:57: AN: Oh, he’s gonna be on. TT: Yeah, he’s gonna be on this weekend. He, he’s on. 36:00: AN: Okay, and that, that’s at 5:30. TT: No, it’s at 8:30 on Friday. 36:04: AN: Okay. TT: And it’s at 6:30 on Saturday and Sunday. On KAMU. 36:09: AN: Yeah, I knew John. He, he’s class ’42. TT: Right, right. And I guess he’s the one that called me about you. I guess, I guess, I but I yeah. I, yeah. But you know, John will be on this weekend. Yeah. As a matter of fact he will be. But that’s good. So I’ll call you tomorrow, if you can go through the pictures tonight, I’ll call you tomorrow and come back and get those pictures. ‘Cause I have to, I have to scan them and send them on the computer and all that kind of stuff. And, and then I’ll call you on Thursday to make sure you’re feeling okay. And if you are, I’ll be here Thursday at about 2 o’clock to take you in to do the show. 26:47: AN: Yeah, you best call me. I see chemo at 10:30. Maybe I, I’ll be home by, I, I, I’d say about 12 o’clock. TT: Give you a little time to rest. 36:58: So I, I can tell, I can tell what, whether it was. Last time, last time I went up there, it didn’t, it didn’t faze me whatsoever. TT: Well I’ll call you around 12:30, something like that, and make sure that, that we’re a go. Alright? Very good.