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From: Ken Fogle
To: Boyer, Lindsay; Cotter, Carol; Dunn, Joey; Fletcher, Trey; George, Bridgette; Gibbs,
Alan; Hitchcock, Molly; Norton, Josh; Prochazka, Jennifer; Reeves, Jennifer
Date: 3/18/2005 9:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: CSISD/County Justice of the Peace Office property
Regarding the driveway, here's the response I got from TxDOT(attached). Basically, they will allow a
driveway about 305 feet west of Anderson. I think the County's wanting it a lot closer to Anderson than
that. TxDOT may have a little give and take, but I don't think they will allow anything around 200 feet which
is what the County wants. If it was my call, from a safety point of view, I don't think that we should allow
anything that close either.
Ken
Ken Fogle, P.E.
Transportation Planner
City of College Station
Office: 979.764.3570
Cell: 979.255.8720
Fax: 979.764.3496
E-mail: kfogle@cstx.gov
Web: www.cstx.gov
>>> Joey Dunn 3/17/2005 10:38:58 PM >>>
Folks, I wanted to let you know that since I will be out, and possibly Alan too for Monday's follow-up/PAC
meeting at 3pm re. the Justice of the Peace property/facility expansion: I spoke with Rick Ravey this
afternoon, who is with Fred Patterson, working on the prelim design for this property.
They will try to get Mike Ball and Kenny Mallard to this meeting, but I told Rick about our determination
(with Mark Smith's help) that the existing detention facility would be adequate to serve their site expansion
as well. There is still the question of whether TxDOT will allow the mid-block right-in-right-out curb cut,
which Rick is still investigating with TxDOT.
I also told him that technically we cannot require non-health &safety related codes to apply to this project,
being a jurisdiction of the state, but that we want to give them the opportunity to meet those standards in
the name of community spirit. Rick told me that they fully intend to meet those standards, whether they
are required or not. Those of you attending the PAC might want to remind Kenny Mallard or Mike Ball of
this, if they attend.
Thanks! Joey
Joseph A. Dunn, AICP
Director of Planning & Development Services
City of College Station, Texas
P.O. Box 9960
College Station, TX 77842
979.764.3570
>>> Jennifer Reeves 2/28/2005 7:11:27 AM >>>
Good morning Joey- I apologize for not getting back with you sooner. I have visited with Molly an JP and
we cannot think of anything else other than landscaping or architectural either unless for some reason the
County's proposed site plan would not work with the 10-foot parking setback that is required in the NRA. I
will keep you posted on any correspondence I have with Fred Patterson and or the County on this project.
Thanks,
Reeves
Jennifer Reeves
Staff Planner
City of College Station
jreevescstx.gov
(979) 764-3570
(979) 764-3496 FAX
>>> Joey Dunn 2/14/2005 5:52:04 PM >>>
Jennifer, please read my correspondence with Glenn below. Let's begin making a list of"non-health and
safety" city requirements that may not apply to the County/CSISD, but are encouraged. I can think of
landscaping and architectural standards so far. Any others you can think of?
Thanks for asking about it. We'll need to visit with Mike Ball and Kenny Mallard about those items when
we determine what they are. Joey
Joseph A. Dunn, AICP
Director of Planning & Development Services
City of College Station, Texas
P.O. Box 9960
College Station, TX 77842
979.764.3570
>>> Glenn Brown 2/14/2005 5:43:21 PM >>>
Health and Safety codes are what I remember that we can enforce. I think it would be good to let them
know what the standards are for non health/safety issues, and give them the opportunity to comply in the
"name of community spirit", as long as they know we are not mandating it.
Glenn D. Brown
Assistant City Manager
City of College Station
PO Box 9960
College Station, TX 77842
979 764-3510
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>>> Joey Dunn 2/14/2005 5:38:00 PM >>>
Glenn, actually, it ended up pretty much as it began, the main issues continue to be drainage and access.
Mike Ball came around to say at the end that if the County can get away with not having to alter the design
of the existing drainage facility, and can accomodate its expansion within the triagular lot, then perhaps
the School Board might consider subdividing the area excluding the creek altogether, as Kenny Mallord
says the County desires.
Patterson Architects (Fred Patterson and Rick Ravey)will be working up a site plan of the project over the
next 2 weeks to figure out just how much land the County will need to do their expansion, while not having
to take in any portion of the floodplain/detention area. I offered to facilitate a followup meeting in two
weeks, and Mike Ball will call me if they wish to have the meeting with us. It may be just between the
County and CSISD to determine property conveyance terms, not sure yet, but we'll see.
The question still lingers as to how much the city can regulate these entities of the State. I heard from my
staff after the meeting that they are a little concerned with giving the impression that all city codes and
ordinances apply, only to have it questioned later and determined that none of it should apply. I think that
was the issue regarding our landscaping requirements for the new elementary school on Greens Prairie,
and my staff were told later that the school should not have been required to do the landscaping.
That may have been the case before I came, but from what I understood from the meeting that you, Tom
and I had with Harvey and Roxanne a couple of months back, any codes relative to health and safety
issues should still apply to schools and in this case the County. And in my opinion, drainage and access
are health/safety issues. It may be that we can't require other standards on this project, like landscaping
and the non-residential architectural standards, but I plan to proceed ahead and see how difficult it is for
them to meet our standards.
Is that how you recall our approach should be? Let me know-Thanks! Joey
Joseph A. Dunn, AICP
Director of Planning & Development Services
City of College Station, Texas
P.O. Box 9960
College Station, TX 77842
979.764.3570
>>> Glenn Brown 2/14/2005 5:06:14 PM >>>
Sorry I had to leave early. Is there anything I should know about the outcome of the meeting?
Glenn D. Brown
Assistant City Manager
City of College Station
PO Box 9960
College Station, TX 77842
979 764-3510
gbrownacstx.gov
>>> Joey Dunn 2/11/2005 3:11:42 PM >>>
Thanks Glenn -yes, I plan to attend also. Joey
Joseph A. Dunn, AICP
Director of Planning & Development Services
City of College Station, Texas
P.O. Box 9960
College Station, TX 77842
979.764.3570
>>> Glenn Brown 2/11/2005 3:10:50 PM >>>
Joey, this is the PAC I mentioned to you several weeks ago. I would appreciate your attending this one if
you could, and I plan to attend also. There is probably no point in either of us being there, but I had earlier
committed to Mike Ball that I would attend.
Glenn D. Brown
Assistant City Manager
City of College Station
PO Box 9960
College Station, TX 77842
979 764-3510
>>> "Ken Fogle" <Kfoaleacstx.aov> 1/5/2005 3:28:34 PM >>>
Karl,
Brazos County is looking to expand the Justice of the Peace office at Bush / Anderson. With
the expansion,they would like to expand the parking lot and add a right-in / right-out
driveway onto George Bush Drive. It appears that the spacing would be about 220 feet from
Anderson. I believe the posted speed is 40-45 mph,which corresponds to a TxDOT spacing
between 305 and 360 feet. So, it wouldn't meet the spacing criteria, but I wanted to see if it
is something you would consider or not. Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
Ken
Ken Fogle, P.E.
Transportation Planner
City of College Station
Office: 979.764.3570
Cell: 979.255.8720
Fax: 979.764.3496
E-mail: kfoaleacstx.ciov
Web: www.cstx.aov
From: Jennifer Prochazka
To: Gina Southerland; Mandi Alford; Melissa Rodgers; Susan Stanley
Date: 9/13/2004 9:25:19 AM
Subject: Can someone schedule a PAC meeting???
September 20th @ 2pm
Kenny Mallard with the County Commissioners' Office. 979.361.4105
Location: southwest corner of Anderson & George Bush Drive...current Justice of the Peace office.
Considering purchasing adjacent school district property for possible expansion of the JP office in the
future. Would like to talk about zoning, floodplain location, parking requirements, etc.
No specific plans right now, but would like to get all of the requirements.
Floodplain is one of their main concerns.
He will be bringing in a map of the subject property today.
Let me know if you need any more information before you send out the appointment!
Thanks.
Jennifer Prochazka
Staff Planner
Development Services
City of College Station
tel.: 979.764.3570
fax: 979.764.3496
CC: Bridgette George
MEMORANDUM
To: FILE
From: Jay Page
Date: January 6, 2005
RE: FM 2437 @ Anderson St.
Brazos County JP No. 6
College Station, Tx.
Access Driveway
GENERAL COMMENTS:
1) Speed Limit @ this location is 40 MPH, which requires an access
spacing of approximately 305'.
2) According to the Brazos County Appraisal District the entire
property from Anderson Street to Holik Street & south to Park
Place is owned by CSISD. However, they apparently allow Brazos
County to use the property from Anderson Street to Holik that is
bounded by George Bush Drive on the north & Wolf Pen Creek on
the south.
3) The entire property is cut-off by the creek & there is a median on
FM 2347 that extends from Anderson Street to Holik Street.
4) At 40 MPH there is spacing for only one (1) access point between
Anderson & Holik Streets.
Q Therefore, recommend an access driveway to be located 305' west
of Anderson Street that could be used as shared access if any
additional site were to be located west of this driveway & east of
Holik Street.