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From: Mark Smith
To: Ken Fogle
Date: 7/14/2004 8:42:59 AM
Subject: Re: Pebble Creek - Phase 9
Who can answer the question as to whether the LIDO applies in this case or not?
If it is simply a Subdivision Regs issue then it is good to go and no variance is required.
I am confused about what you say we want. Do we want to prohibit driveways onto minor collectors or
not? If we do not want to prohibit them then why would we want to add more prohibitive language to the
Subdivision Regs.
>>> Ken Fogle 7/13/2004 5:11:23 PM >>>
I think the issue that we have here is there is a requirement in the UDO that should be in the subdivision
regulations. Whether or not residential driveways are allowed on a minor collector should be decided at
the time of platting (subdivision regulation authority). If a residential area is platted with lots fronting on a
minor collector, we automatically fall into the "no local street can be made available" when it comes to the
question of driveway access. Currently the subdivision regulations allow PZ to make the call to whether
residential lots front on arterials or collectors (8 -G.8).
Here is my recommendation: As part of the LIDO clean up, remove the language in the LIDO that states
where residential uses can and cannot take access. This is already covered in the subdivision regulations
in 8 -G.8. When we finish the connectivity project, we'll update the subdivision regulations with any new
regulations for residential lots fronting on minor collectors (deeper or wider lots, provisions to remove
backing maneuvers, etc.).
This way, PZ has the authority to make the call on whether or not to approve the Pebble Creek - Phase 9
plat. Isn't this the way it should be? Let me know what you think and we'll proceed accordingly.
>>> Mark Smith 7/9/2004 12:59:54 PM >>>
I can't tell from what you have sent me whether they need a variance or not.
Does the LIDO apply here if their master plan was approved pre -UDO? Apparently the Subdivision
Regulations do not make such a requirement. If the LIDO does not apply here then we can assume that
the proposed arrangement is good to go unless the P &Z wants to exercise its right to prevent driveways
opening into such streets.
If the UDO does apply here then I think that a variance from ZBA is required. There is no "driveway
application" here. I'll agree that the platting of lots fronting on a street implies that access will be taken
from that street but I don't think that the development engineer should get into approval or denial of
implied driveways. The reason for the LIDO requirement under Article 7, Section 7.3 B.b is to catch these
potential access problems at the platting stage. The following language:
b. Minor Collector Streets: No single- family dwelling, townhouse, or
duplex shall take direct access to minor collector streets except when
no local street is or can be made available or when the residential lot
has at least 200 feet of frontage on the minor collector street.
is unambiguous LIDO language. I don't think that staff has the authority to grant a variance to this. If a
variance is required it would need to be granted by the ZBA as described in Article 3, Section 3.16.
This may well be something that needs revision, but that is the way the LIDO reads at this time and it
doesn't appear to give us any discretion.
Mark Smith
Director of Public Works
Jennife R eeves - Re: Pebble Creek - Phase 9 P age 2
979 - 764 -3690
>>> Ken Fogle 7/9/2004 9:09:29 AM >>>
Mark,
Since this is not a variance to the subdivision regulations, should we require him to show the findings as
listed in the subdivision regulations? When the applicant is requesting a variance to the LIDO, we usually
require a letter requesting the variance and why ... no specific findings. Let me know what you think.
Ken
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Ken Fogle, P.E.
Transportation Planner
City of College Station
Phone: 979.764.3570
Fax: 979.764.3496
E -mail: kfogle(a.cstx.gov
Web: www.cstx.gov
>>> Mark Smith 7/9/2004 7:45:31 AM >>>
I am inclined to agree with you Ken.
I would like for Davis to submit a request for the variance. The burden is on the applicant to make a case
for the variance. He should address each of the four "findings" listed in Section 5 of the subdivision
regulations. The variance request should be in the form of a letter addressed to that case's project
manager.
Is this plat on a time clock yet?
Mark Smith
Director of Public Works
979 - 764 -3690
>>> Ken Fogle 7/8/2004 5:18:35 PM >>>
Mark,
I have a situation that I need your help with. Davis Young is preparing to plat Pebble Creek - Phase 9. This
phase includes a segment of a minor collector (St. Andrews I believe). On Pebble Creek's master plan
(prior to the UDO), they show residences on St. Andrew's having driveway access. Based on the LIDO, no
single - family home shall take direct access unless no other street can be made available (not applicable in
a developing area) or the lots have over 200 feet of frontage. Prior to the UDO, staff usually restricted
driveways on collectors; the only place (that I am aware of) that it was regulated was through the
subdivision regulations that allows the PZ Commission to restrict driveways on arterials and collectors. In
the past, we have allowed driveway access on some minor collectors in Pebble Creek. Davis Young has
been calling with concerns (he's pretty worked up) about us not allowing to develop this phase as it was
planned on their master plan. The LIDO calls for the Development Engineer to review driveway variances,
so this is your call. Do you feel the surge of power welling up within you yet?
I've been working with the Long Range Planning staff on the connectivity project and one of the things that
we've discussed is whether or not to restrict driveway access on minor collectors. I believe that we should
remove this restriction so that our minor collector roadways act as a residential collector, and allow
driveway access ... a wider version of a collector street. One idea is to require these homes to have
driveways that would allow them to head out, rather than back out, onto the minor collector roadway. In a
well connected subdivision, it works very well. This is the way that Francis and Walton operate in the East
Molly Hitchc - Response to Staff Comments P Page 1
Planning and Land Use
Solutions
MEMORANDUM
August 24, 2004
TO: Molly Hitchcock, Staff Planner via e-mail mhitchcock(cD-cstx.gov
FROM: Jessica Jimmerson via e-mail jj(a)plusplanning.com
SUBJECT: PEBBLE CREEK SUBDIVISION (REZ)
Case file #04- 00500183
Staff Review Comments No. 1, August 16, 2004
Planning Comment #2
In 1991, the developer expressed his desire to donate parkland in this area to the City and
it was discussed at a Parks Board meeting. The Parks Board has identified the area as a
4.54 -acre "future park ". What is the intent in regards to the parkland?
Despite the fact that the Special Warranty Deed of Parkland signed in 1988, entitles the
developer to credit for future parkland dedication requirements for up to 3630 dwelling units,
which have not all been utilized, the developer recognizes the need for a park in this area.
Therefore the development plan does continue to include a park in this area. It will most likely
initially be a privately maintained park, however, the specifications and exact boundaries of the
park are yet to be determined. The developer is working with the City's Parks Department
professionals and intends to continue discussions with the Parks Board to ensure that the park is
well designed for its intended functions. More details will be worked out as the area approaches
the platting stages of development.
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From:
Kristan Clann
To:
Hitchcock, Molly
Date:
9/16/2004 2:12:36 PM
Subject:
Pebble Creek greenway
Attached is my message for the Council mtg next week re: Pebble Creek re- zoning.
Let me know if you need any clarification. Thanks!!
kristan
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Kristan D. Clann
Greenways Program Manager
City of College Station
Phone: 979.764.3844
Pebble Creek comments 9/16/04
Kristan met with Jessica Jimmerson on 9/14/04.
Regarding the re- zoning of the area east of Pebble Creek Parkway, the Greenways Program recommends
that the Lick Creek portion of the greenway be maintained as a greenway and protected from development.
This section of greenway is classified as a "suburban greenway" in our Master Plan. The primary functions
of a suburban greenway include: flood control, recreation, transportation, economics, and aesthetics.
Filling the Lick Creek portion of greenway would prevent these functions from being fulfilled. However,
the Greenways Program will negotiate the possible development of the Alum Creek fringe portion of the
greenway, which is labeled as a " rural greenway" in our Master Plan. The primary functions of a rural
greenway include: protect wildlife, flood control, and aesthetics. It is likely these functions can be fulfilled
by neighboring Lick Creek Park.
Jennifer Reev - Re: Pebble Creek - Phase 9
Gate area. Regarding internal connectivity, I believe that Pebble Creek does a pretty good job. External
connectivity is another issue.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that if it were my call, I'd allow residential lots to front and have driveway
access onto St. Andrews. I'd like to get your thoughts on this as soon as you can so we can get back to
Davis Young. Let me know what you think.
Thanks for your help on this!
Ken
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Ken Fogle, P.E.
Transportation Planner
City of College Station
Phone: 979.764.3570
Fax: 979.764.3496
E -mail: kfogleCcDcstx.gov
Web: www.cstx.gov
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