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COLLEGE STATION College Station, Texas 77842
Phone (979)764 -3570 / Fax (979)764 -3496
MEMORANDUM
4/11/2003
TO: Kent Laza, P.E., Via fax 693 -2554
FROM: Spencer Thompson, Development Services Engineering
SUBJECT: Edelweiss Gartens Phase 5 - Sewer OP Request
City Staff has evaluated your request for OP as outlined in your letters
dated 03/12/03 and 03/21/03. The following comments are being returned
to you:
• The request for OP by the Westfield Development for increased line size
from an 8" line to a 15" line (FF -EE) appears to be in compliance with
ordinance.
• The request for OP by the Westfield Development for increased line size
from an 8" line to a 12" line (EE- Victoria) appears to be in compliance
with ordinance.
• The request for OP by the Edelweiss Gartens Development for
increased line size from an 8" line to a 12" line (Victoria to creek
channel) appears to be in compliance with ordinance. The node labeled
BB should be moved east to the creek channel.
• The request to consider the area labeled AA as commercial can not be
considered at this time. The Land Use Plan distinctly shows this area as
residential.
The City can not support payment to the Edelweiss Gartens Development
for increased line size that the Westfield Development is responsible for.
If you have any questions, please contact me at 764 -3570.
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Westfield Village Phase 6
Engineering Review Comment Response
The following is a reply to the engineering review of the construction plans for phase 6 of
the Westfield Village Subdivision dated August 14, 2003.
1. All public utility construction must be in a dedicated PUE. The PUE must be
submitted to the City prior to plan approval.
A PUE for all utilities not in the ROW is being prepared and will be submitted
to the City.
2. Sheet 2: Sidewalk required with street. Extend to end of street construction.
The sidewalk is being extended to the end of the boundary of Phase 6 as
required. The additional portion of Victoria is being constructed as a
temporary turn- around as required by the city. A street is currently being
planned to intersect Victoria at Station 49 +78.81 in conjunction with a future
section of Edelweiss Gartens. We have left the sidewalk off intentionally to
avoid its removal when this street is built.
3. Sheet 3: Remove "Typical 40' Subgrade Section"
f,4 There are no prohibitions for this type of work in the city regulations and we
believe the diagram is necessary on this project. The soil being excavated
from Mountain Breeze Way is being used as fill on other portions of the
it- J e-i - subdivision. This diagram is the only information the contractor will have for
the earthwork along Mountain Breeze Way.
4. Sheet 3: Section A -A should show 7" flex base. Sidewalk is required with
street construction.
Since a turn - around is being required on Victoria, we have attempted to
design a facility that will serve that purpose, but can still be used with the
future extension of Victoria Avenue. Our concern is that any turning
movements by heavy vehicles will damage the surface course and it will
become necessary to replace the asphalt before the city will accept it in the
future. We have designed the temporary turn- around with 5.5 " of base and
1.5 " of HMAC. As you can see in the detail, the asphalt is being left 1.5 "
below the lip of the gutter. An additional 1.5 " of HMAC will be added to this
portion of the street with future construction of Mountain Breeze Way. We
believe 3 " of HMAC on 5.5 " of base is a superior section to 7 " of base and
1.5" of HMAC.
The sidewalk is addressed in #2 above.
5. Sheet 4: Curved storm sewer along Night Rain Drive not in accordance with
Drainage Policy and Design Standards (DPDS).
The use of curved storm sewers was approved by the Director of Public Works
0 for Phase 1 of this subdivision so long as the joint deflections fall within the
manufacturer's guidelines. We are unaware of a change in this policy.
6. Sheet 5: Outlets for Storm Drain A and B. Riprap in channel as shown
constitutes modification to natural watercourse. When placing riprap in lieu
of energy dissipation structure, you must show that velocities are reduced
before entering natural channel.
To our knowledge, there is no prohibition to the modification of an ephemeral
stream through the placement of rip -rap. We are simply installing an outfall
from a development into a natural watercourse (Lick Creek Tributary A) as
done on many other public and private projects. The rip -rap is intended to
provide a short section of lined channel where the velocity in the pipe slows to
the velocity in the receiving stream. Energy dissipation occurs in the swirls
and eddies that form at that point. If the streambed is not lined in this area, it
is subject to washouts immediately below the pipe headwall. Rip -rap has
proven to effectively reduce these washouts on previous projects. It has been
accepted by all of the area governments, including College Station, and it is
unclear why this application is any different than those previous installations.
Formal studies of Lick Creek Tributary A were conducted in the drainage
reports from Alexandria Subdivision and Westfield Subdivision. Those
reports included computer models of the stream in the area where this outfall
is being proposed. The maximum water velocity for both the 100-yr and 25-yr
storm events is 3 fps, which is less than the maximum allowable for grass -
lined waterways in the College Station DPDS. Any runoff coming from
outfalls like the one being proposed will immediately slow to the velocity in
the natural watercourse. With the exception of some eddies in the stream,
there are no erosive velocities to consider. Energy dissipaters at the base of
the outfall will be completely ineffective because they will be submerged by
water in the stream.
In our opinion, this is not an appropriate application of energy dissipation
devices as described in the College Station DPDS. The water velocity in the
receiving stream will not be significantly changed by such devices if installed
at this location.
7. Sheet 6: Manhole required at end of S -2 per TNRCC 317.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
�8. Remove references to "existing" sewer where sewer does not exist.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
9. Sheet 7: Inset B. Cross not permitted as shown. Install additional valve or
replace cross with tee.
The cross is designed correctly with valves on three of the four legs. As
indicated previously, a street is being planned at the Victoria /Mountain
Breeze Way associated with a future phase of Edelweiss Gartens. The water
line extension shown here is intended to serve that future development.
10. 2" sand cushion required on sidewalk/pathway detail.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
Edelweiss Gartens, Phase 5
Engineering Review Comment Response
The following is a reply to the engineering review of the construction plans for phase 5 of
the Edelweiss Gartens Subdivision dated August 14, 2003.
1. All public Utility construction must be in a dedicated PUE. The PUE must be
submitted to the City prior to plan approval.
A PUE for all utilities not in the ROW is being prepared and will be submitted
to the City.
2. Sheet 7: Storm Drain Sta. 20 +90.19 does not meet Drainage Policy and
Design Standards (DPDS) § VI, B, 3.
The bend has been removed from the plans.
3. Sheet 7: SD -J and SD -I. Riprap in channel as shown constitutes modification
to natural watercourse. When placing riprap in lieu of energy dissipation
structure, you must show that velocities are reduced before entering natural
channel.
To our knowledge, there is no prohibition to the modification of an ephemeral
stream through the placement of rip -rap. We are simply installing an outfall
from a development into a natural watercourse (Lick Creek Tributary A) as
done on many other public and private projects. The rip -rap is intended to
provide a short section of lined channel where the velocity in the pipe slows to
the velocity in the receiving stream. Energy dissipation occurs in the swirls
and eddies that form at that point. If the streambed is not lined in this area, it
is subject to washouts immediately below the pipe headwall. Rip -rap has
proven to effectively reduce these washouts on previous projects. It has been
accepted by all of the area governments, including College Station, and it is
unclear why this application is any different than those previous installations.
Formal studies of Lick Creek Tributary A were conducted in the drainage
reports from Alexandria Subdivision and Westfield Subdivision. Those
reports included computer models of the stream in the area where this outfall
is being proposed. The maximum water velocity for both the 100-yr and 25-yr
storm events is 4 fps, which is less than the maximum allowable for grass -
lined waterways in the College Station DPDS. Any runoff coming from
outfalls like the one being proposed will immediately slow to the velocity in
the natural watercourse. With the exception of some eddies in the stream,
there are no erosive velocities to consider. Energy dissipaters at the base of
the outfall will be completely ineffective because they will be submerged by
water in the stream.
In our opinion, this is not an appropriate application of energy dissipation
devices as described in the College Station DPDS. The water velocity in the
receiving stream will not be significantly changed by such devices if installed
at this location.
4. Sheet 10: Manholes required at end of sewer line per TNRCC 317.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
5. Sheet 10: Remove 6" stub at MH 5.
We would prefer to install this stub -out with this phase of construction. The
v current developer now owns the property to the south and plans to develop it
in the near future. By installing the 20 ft. stub out now, it eliminates the need
to break into the manhole when the future line is constructed. This stub out
will be privately owned and maintained until the adjoining land is developed.
6. Sheet 11: Manhole 9 is in handicap ramp slope area.
The manhole cover is actually located in the landing at the top of the ramp
and does not infringe into the sloped sections of the ramp. (The ring and cover
are smaller than the circle shown in the plans)
7. Sheet 11: 12" Sewer line is less than required 42" burial depth.
The plans have been revised to provide 3" of additional cover under the
stream.
8. Sheet 12: Manhole 13 is in handicap ramp slope area.
The manhole cover is actually located in the landing at the top of the ramp
and does not infringe into the sloped sections of the ramp. (The ring and cover
are smaller than the circle shown in the plans)
9. Sheet 13: Manhole 18 does not comply with TNRCC 317. Tops of different
size pipes must be aligned.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
10. Sheet 14: End of sewer line does not meet TNRCC 317.
A manhole has been added to the end of the sewer line.
11. Sheet 14: 3 -36" culverts do not appear anywhere else in plan set. Remove.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
12. Sheet 17: Inset A. Change to 6 "x8" tee and 8" valve.
We believe the connection is designed correctly. There is no 6 "x 8" Tee.
There is only 8 "x 6" Tees and 6 "x 6" Tees. The first number represents the
"through " portion of the tee. Since the lines coming to the "through " portion
of the tee are both 6" lines, it is logical to install a 6 "x 6" Tee. The minor
head losses through the fittings are insignificant to the overall system
operation.
13. Sheet 19. Remove "Future Reinforced Concrete Flume ".
This drawing is provided for informational purposes about the drainage
system being considered as an outfall for SH 40. It is intended to help the
developer, TxDOT, and the city understand how drainage will be handled
through this area and where it is located in relation to the subdivision
boundaries. It is not being proposed for construction at this time, but it could
be submitted in the near future when SH 40 is built. Discussions about this
system are currently underway. Even though the drawing has no bearing on
the construction of Edelweiss Gartens, Phase 5, we believe it is necessary to
leave it in the plans for future reference.
14. Sheet S 1: 2" sand cushion required on sidewalk detail.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
Edelweiss Gartens, Phase 5
Engineering Review Comment Response
September 2, 2003
The following is a reply to the engineering review of the construction plans for phase 5 of the
Edelweiss Gartens Subdivision dated August 14, 2003.
1. All public Utility construction must be in a dedicated PUE. The PUE must be
submitted to the City prior to plan approval.
A PUE for all utilities not in the ROW is being prepared and will be submitted to the
City.
2. Sheet 7: Storm Drain Sta. 20 +90.19 does not meet Drainage Policy and Design
Standards (DPDS) § VI, B, 3.
The bend has been removed from the plans.
3. Sheet 7: SD -J and SD -I. Riprap in channel as shown constitutes modification to
natural watercourse. When placing riprap in lieu of energy dissipation structure, you
must show that velocities are reduced before entering natural channel.
The outfall structures have been pulled back 10-15 ft. from the natural watercourse
and a small, lined channel is provided to carry water the rest of the way. No new
rip -rap will be placed in the natural watercourse.
Note that the water line stub out shown in Inset A of Sheet 18 has been altered
slightly to provide sufficient cover where it parallels one of these new channels.
4. Sheet 10: Manholes required at end of sewer line per TNRCC 317.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
5. Sheet 10: Remove 6" stub at MH 5.
As noted in "Other Changes" below, the alignment of the sewer line has changed
The stub out has been shortened, but it remains on the plans for future extension as
discussed in our meeting of 8/28.
6. Sheet 11: Manhole 9 is in handicap ramp slope area.
The manhole cover is actually located in the landing at the top of the ramp and does
not infringe into the sloped sections of the ramp. (The ring and cover are smaller
than the circle shown in the plans)
7. Sheet 11: 12" Sewer line is less than required 42" burial depth.
The plans have been revised to provide 3" of additional cover under the stream.
8. Sheet 12: Manhole 13 is in handicap ramp slope area.
The manhole cover is actually located in the landing at the top of the ramp and does
not infringe into the sloped sections of the ramp. (The ring and cover are smaller
than the circle shown in the plans)
9. Sheet 13: Manhole 18 does not comply with TNRCC 317. Tops of different size
pipes must be aligned.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
10. Sheet 14: End of sewer line does not meet TNRCC 317.
A manhole has been added to the end of the sewer line.
11. Sheet 14: 3 -36" culverts do not appear anywhere else in plan set. Remove.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
12. Sheet 17: Inset A. Change to 6 "x 8" tee and 8" valve.
We believe the connection is designed correctly. The minor head losses through the
fittings are insignificant to the overall system operation regardless of how it is
plumbed The water system analysis indicates that the system works well as is
designed, with all pressures well above the minimum required by TCEQ and the City
of College Station.
13. Sheet 19. Remove "Future Reinforced Concrete Flume ".
The detail has been removed.
14. Sheet S 1: 2" sand cushion required on sidewalk detail.
The plans have been changed to show this revision.
OTHER CHANGES
A. Sheet 1 — The southern boundary line of Phase 5 has been moved 10 feet to match the
boundary of the preliminary plat. Associated changes to Brandenberg Street and the
utility lines are included on various sheets in the plan set.
B. Sheet 10 — The 10" sewer line that extends off -site has been moved to the opposite side
of the future 30' drainage ROW to avoid a power pole and a transformer that was
installed with Phase 4. An easement will be provided to cover the new alignment.
C. Sheet 12 and 13 — Sewer stub -outs from manholes have been shortened to 20 feet or less
as discussed in our meeting of 8/28.