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BRAZOS COUNTY
ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT
Richard F. Vance, P.E., County EnQlnger
Alvin W. Jones, County Judge
Commissioner Tony ]ones, Precinct 1
Cornrnissioeer William S. nomton. Precinct 2
February 18, 2002
Stewart M. Kling, P.E.
Kling Engineering & Surveying
4101 Texas Avenue South, Suite A
Bryan, Texas 77802
19 002
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Commissioner C. 0. Jones, Precinct 3
Cururnissiwrtr Casey Cauley. Precinct 4
Re: Indian Lakes Subdivision - Master Development Plan
Dear Stewart:
Please allow this letter to serve as evidence of the County's review and approval of the
master development plan of Indian Lakes Subdivision submitted by Smiling Mallard
Development. The County's approval is subject to the depiction on the plat submitted
by the developer of a private access easement from the Indian Lakes development to
Arrington Road.
Sincerely,
Ray Crow, C.F.M.
Director of Planning/Traffic
Road & Bridge Dept.
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cc: Richard F. Vance, P.E., County Eng.
Charles Ellison, P.C., Attorney at Law
2617 Highway 21 west Rltyan, Texas 77903 ' Ofty (979)872- 2127/rax (979)775.0453
Susan Hazlett - Indian Lakes Subdivision Master Development Plan (MDP 02 -016) Page 1
FILE COPY
From: Spencer Thompson
To: cfwilliams@spa.ars.usda.gov; Jane Kee; jhapp @tamu.edu; Ken Fogle;
khawthorne @bruchez.com; mcmath @fabtexas.com; Molly Hitchcock; Natalie Ruiz;
rick- floyd @tamu.edu; rkaiser @tamu.edu; Sabine Kuenzel; Stewart Kling; Susan Hazlett;
trapani717 @aol.com
Date: 3/1/02 6:37PM
Subject: Indian Lakes Subdivision Master Development Plan (MDP 02 -016)
To All Concerned,
I would like to clear up a matter concerning my Staff Report on Indian Lakes Subdivision Master
Development Plan . In my Summary I state that: "The Subdivision Regulations clearly prohibit direct
residential access to Arterial roadways ".
To say "clearly prohibit" is not entirely accurate. The applicable Regulation concerning access is found
in Chapter 9: SUBDIVISIONS, SECTION 12: RURAL RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS,
Section I: Streets, Part .9: Principal Streets on Master Plan. It reads:
Where a subdivision embraces a major or minor arterial or collector street as shown on the City of
College Station Thoroughfare and Transportation Improvement Plan, such street shall be platted to
maintain continuity in the approximate location as shown, and of the type indicated. In certain cases the
City may have constructed a street through the area to be subdivided, in which case the subdivider shall
develop the necessary street intersections at his expense, in accordance with the requirements of this
chapter. The Planning & Zoning Commission may require that, where practical, residential lots
adjacent to arterial streets or parkways be platted or restricted so as to prevent driveways
opening into such streets.
All principal streets, major and minor arterials and collectors (if they will be continuous beyond the rural
residential subdivision) shall be constructed to urban standards as contained in Section 8 -G, Streets. All
residential streets and those collectors, which are wholly contained within the rural residential subdivision
and provide internal circulation for the rural residential subdivision(s) only, may be constructed to the
standards contained within this section.
Whereas Section 12 is intended for rural subdivisions in the city limits, Section 13 for ETJ subdivisions
refers back to Section 12.
The Applicant contacted me and was concerned with the severity of the aforementioned statement. In all
honesty, the Regulations do not clearly prohibit such. I hope this misstatement has not induced any bias
on your part concerning this matter.
Staff has discussed this issue for some time and feels that residential access should be limited on
Arterials such as in this case. Even if this roadway does not fully develop arterial traffic for 10 years,
now is the time to set the limits. Staff feels that allowing each lot to have a driveway onto the Arterial will
only create problems in the future. Mr. Ken Fogle, Transportation Planner, may wish to speak at the
Thursday night meeting concerning this issue. Applicants who attend Predevelopment Meetings, as in
this case, are cautioned that the Commission looks at access issues intently. The Applicant was not told
the Commission would not allow the access, only that the Commission has raised the issue on previous
cases.
It is my understanding that the Applicant wishes to discuss before the Commission the specifics of this
case as to applicability of the "where practical' statement in the Ordinance.
Regards,
Spencer
S MD
SMILING MALL-4 RD DEVELOPMENT, LTD
February 6, 2002
Mr. Spencer Thompson
CITY OF COLLEGE STATION
1101 Texas Avenue South, P. O. Box 9960
College Station, Texas 77842
RE: INDIAN LAKES (File #02 -16)
Dear Mr. Thompson:
This letter serves to follow -up on our conversation on February 4, 2002 regarding the "stop review" on Indian
Lakes. It is my understanding that the City's review will continue, pursuant to our conversation, and we
remain scheduled foethe February 28, 2002 P&Z hearing.
Specifically addressing your concerns denoted as 1-4, we tender the following reply:
1. Cherokee Drive is a dedicated, platted and maintained county road. The plat is recorded in
the real property records at the County Clerk's office. We are aware that P &Z would like
multiple access to a subdivision, and we are providing secondary access even though the
ordinance does not require it.
2. We specifically disagree that we have discussed that there will be no individual access to
collectors and arterials as stated in the stop review correspondence. We have not discussed
collectors, and we are unaware of any ordinance prohibiting access to a county collector. We
have a few tracts fronting the only arterial street which is Cheyenne Trail. We will be
requesting that the P &Z allow these access drives or alternatively, that these lots be able to
share common access drives to this road. We discussed that the P &Z "may" allow access at
their discretion.
3. The two small road sections which dead -end will have temporary turnarounds reflected on the
plat; we can also reflect these on the Master Plan if you desire.
4. Chaco Canyon does not exceed 2000 feet past Osage Trail.
We hope the phone call and this letter helps to address all of your concerns. Additionally, we have meetings
scheduled with the County to address off -site roads and infrastructure. I anticipate the off -site issues may be
on -going over the next several years as better thoroughfare plans are adopted in the area.
We appreciate all the good work that the staff has assisted with to date, and we look forward to working with
you through the culmination of the development. As always, please do not hesitate to contact us if we can
clarify anything or be of any assistance.
Kindest regards,
Paul J. Clarke, CCIM
Managing Partner
PJC:dlh
cc: Mr. Stewart Kling
Mr. Charles Ellison (w /enc.)
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Phone: 979 -846 -6212
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We are transmitting the following for Development Services to_ review and comment: (Check all that apply.):
4 Master Development Plan
❑ Preliminary Plat
❑ Final Plat
❑ FEMA CLOMA/CLOMR/LOMA/LOMR
❑ Site Plan
❑ Grading Plan
❑ Landscape Plan
❑ Irrigation Plan
❑ Building Construction Documents
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Redlines
❑ Development Permit App.
w/ ❑
Redlines
❑ Conditional Use Permit
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Redlines
❑ Rezoning Application
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Redlines
❑ Variance Request
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Redlines
❑ Other - Please specify
w/ ❑ Redlines
w/ ❑ Redlines
w/ ❑ Redlines
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INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS
All infrastructure documents must be submitted as a complete set.
The following are included in the complete set:
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Waterline Construction Documents
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Redlines
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Sewerline Construction Documents
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Redlines
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Drainage Construction Documents
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Redlines
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Street Construction Documents
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Redlines
❑
Easement application with metes & bounds
decsription
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Drainage Letter or Report
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Redlines
❑
Fire Flow Analysis
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Redlines
❑ TxDOT Driveway Permit
❑ TxDOT Utility Permit
❑ Other - Please specify
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From:
"Paul Clarke" <clarke @tca.net>
To:
"Spencer Thompson" < Sthompson @ci.college - station.tx.us>
Date:
2/21/02 7:19PM
Subject:
RE: City Ordinances Chapter 3
Spencer,
I am in receipt of your email, which is a portion of Chapter 3 of the City
Ordinances. I am unclear, are you stating that this Section is applicable
to Indian Lakes (IL)? The IL development should fall under Chapter 9,
Section 13 -B and 12 -1.7. The many professionals involved in this large
development are working under synchronized schedules. If you believe that
there are additional outstanding issues with the Master Plan which were not
addressed in your prior correspondence, we request that we meet on these as
soon as possible. We need to stay on schedule and remain available to meet
at any time to address any concerns. Please do not remove us from the
submitted scheduled hearings without discussion in advance. We immediately
responded to your request to acquire County approval of the Master Plan
first, and were prepared to present the County's approval of the Master Plan
by letter dated 2/18/02 received on 2/20/02 to the staff and P &Z Commission
at the 2/21/02 hearing.
We want to do everything within reason to have the City staffs support of
all aspects of this exciting rural development. Please let us know of
anything we need to visit about to acquire your support. Thank you for all
your work on this project and for our City.
Kindest regards,
Paul
Paul J. Clarke,CCIM
Clarke & Wyndham, Inc.
3608 East 29th St., Suite 100
Bryan, Tx 77802
979 - 846 -4384
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From: Spencer Thompson [mai Ito: Sthompson @ci.college- station.tx.us]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:34 AM
To: clarke @tca.net
Subject: City Ordinances Chapter 3
C. STANDARDS OF STREET CONSTRUCTION
(1) Residential Streets
Residential or local streets are restricted to cul -de -sacs, loops, or short
streets with the fol lowing additional restrictions: A cul -de -sac shall not
be over six hundred feet (600') in length and shall ter minate in a
turnaround of not less than a fifty foot (50') radius. A loop shall
terminate in a collector street at both ends. Right -of -way width shall be
not less than fifty feet (50'), and if utility easements are not provided at
the back of lots, the width shall be increased as required by the City
Engineer. Street width shall be not less than twenty- seven feet (27').
Parking may be permitted. Sidewalks are mandatory on one side of the
street, with the exception of cul -de -sac streets. Cul -de -sacs will be
required to have a sidewalk on one side, if needed to provide through
pedestrian movement.
(2) Collector Streets
Collector streets are thoroughfares providing for two (2) to four (4) lanes
of moving traf fic. It is to be distinctly understood that although parking
may be permit ted on the side of such streets in their early life, that the
City may and will prohibit parking on such streets when traffic conditions
warrant such action Sidewalks are required on both sides of the street.
(3) Arterial Streets
Arterial streets are major thoroughfares providing for four (4) to six (6)
lanes of moving traffic. It is to be distinctly understood that although
parking may be permitted on the side of such streets in their early life,
that the city may and will prohibit parking on such streets when traffic
condi tions warrant such action Sidewalks are required on both sides of the
street.
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From: Spencer Thompson
To: Jane Kee; Molly Hitchcock; Natalie Ruiz; Sabine Kuenzel
Date: 2/20/02 12:52PM
Subject: Indian Lakes
I spoke with Paul Clarke. He wants to go ahead with the MDP as submitted. He should be able to go to
the March 7th P &Z. He felt he could make the argument for access to the Arterial.
I spoke with Ray Crow. He told me that he will request Indian Lakes Drive to be a 100' ROW road. The
Developer wants the County to assist in acquiring more ROW along Arrington (the WEST SIDE) and a
wider pavement section. The Developer will pave the access easement. There is also the question of
wider access to Cherokee. He will send a letter stating the County has approved the MDP.
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CITY OF COLLEGE STATION
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
1101 Texas Avenue South, PO Box 9960
College Station, Texas 77842
Phone (979) 764 -3570 / Fax (979) 764 -3496
MEMORANDUM
February 4, 2002
TO: Stewart Kling, Kling Engineering, Via fax 846 -8252
FROM: Bridgette George, Assistant Development Manager
SUBJECT: Indian Lakes Subdivision — Master Development Plan
Staff reviewed the above - mentioned master development plan, but had to stop review
due to an incomplete submittal. Please address the following staff review comments
and submit the following information for further staff review and to be scheduled for a
future Planning & Zoning Commission meeting:
County documentation allowing access to Cherokee Drive.
Two (2) revised master development plans.
If you have any questions regarding these comments, please call Molly Hitchcock or
Spencer Thompson at 979 - 764 -3570.
cc: Paul Clarke, Smiling Mallard Development, LTD, 846 -1461
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From: "Bill Smith" <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
To: "Spencer Thompson" < Sthompson @ ci.college - station.tx.us>
Date: 4/8/02 10:48AM
Subject: Re: County
Spencer,
When Tony showed me his plan for routing the roads, I questioned him hard
about whether he was talking about an arterial or just a collector coming
from the IL entrance. I said that if the IL entrance road is the arterial
then I will agree to give extra row, but I will not give extra row if the
proposed road is just a collector and an arterial is still planned to be
dead ended into the east boundary of my property. Tony said he was talking
about an arterial and he even showed the 100' row on the drawing as would go
with an arterial.
I guess I should call Tony and reconfirm with him what we are talking about.
In my mind, I made it very clear to him what my offer to the county was and
I was confident he understood and agreed.
I am also very confident that neither myself or Joe Bewley will give extra
row just for a collector road leading into the IL development.
An
- - - -- Original Message - - - --
From: "Spencer Thompson" <Sthompson @ci.college - station.tx.us>
To: <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: County
I have been told that the County is working on an agreement to allow the
collector to go through rather than the arterial. Your latest e-mail states
you are not willing to grant additional ROW for less than an arterial.
Could you please elaborate.
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Spencer G. Thompson, Jr.
Development Services, Engineering
City of College Station
PO Box 9960
College Station, TX 77842
Ph. 979.764.3570 Fx. 979.764.3496
>>> "Bill Smith" <bsmith @elitesoft.com> 04/05/02 11:40AM >>>
Spencer,
I met with Tony Jones this past Monday. He told me that his plan was to
meet individually with myself, Bewley, Windham, and Clarke, and then to
schedule a meeting with us all together. I think he has met with us all
individually now but he has not yet scheduled the meeting with all of us
together.
In case he hasn't contacted you with his results, I will tell you what he
told me. Tony has definitely declared the dog leg portion of Arrington road
to be a county road. He said there is no question about that. He said that
the country would not allow paving of that portion of Arrington road unless
sufficient row was obtained. Bewley and I control the row width on the dog
leg portion of Arrington road and we are not inclined to offer extra width
if the road does not become an arterial.
Tony has also has drawn up an adjustment of Arrington road that puts the new
arterial through the IL gate and intersects Arrington at my front gate.
This requires row from both myself and Windham and we have both offered
that.
At the time of my meeting with Tony, Tony had not met with the developer and
I told Tony that the developer hated the arterial IL entrance option as he
felt it was too expensive. Tony said that was not a concern of his. He
said the county really wants the arterial routed along the Windham -Smith
property lines.
Tony also said that he would not allow a water line being routed underneath
the existing narrow dog leg portion of Arrington road. Bewley and I have
not given permission for a water line easement along our property lines
either. Unless the situation changes in some way, IL has no way to obtain a
waterline to their property.
don't know what the city's criteria is for approving a master plan in the
ETJ, but you would think that proof of sufficient infrastructure, i.e. water
and adequate entrance roads are necessary. Right now, I don't see IL as
having either of those.
Bill Smith
www.elitesoft.com
College Station. Embracing the Past, Exploring the Future.
From: "Bill Smith" <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
To: "Spencer Thompson" < sthompson @ci.college - station.tx.us>
Date: 4/5/02 11:46AM
Subject: County
Spencer,
I met with Tony Jones this past Monday. He told me that his plan was to
meet individually with myself, Bewley, Windham, and Clarke, and then to
schedule a meeting with us all together. I think he has met with us all
individually now but he has not yet scheduled the meeting with all of us
together.
In case he hasn't contacted you with his results, I will tell you what he
told me. Tony has definitely declared the dog leg portion of Arrington road
to be a county road. He said there is no question about that. He said that
the country would not allow paving of that portion of Arrington road unless
sufficient row was obtained. Bewley and I control the row width on the dog
leg portion of Arrington road and we are not inclined to offer extra width
if the road does not become an arterial.
Tony has also has drawn up an adjustment of Arrington road that puts the new
arterial through the IL gate and intersects Arrington at my front gate.
This requires row from both myself and Windham and we have both offered
that.
At the time of my meeting with Tony, Tony had not met with the developer and
I told Tony that the developer hated the arterial IL entrance option as he
felt it was too expensive. Tony said that was not a concern of his. He
said the county really wants the arterial routed along the Windham -Smith
property lines.
Tony also said that he would not allow a water line being routed underneath
the existing narrow dog leg portion of Arrington road. Bewley and I have
not given permission for a water line easement along our property lines
either. Unless the situation changes in some way, IL has no way to obtain a
waterline to their property.
I don't know what the city's criteria is for approving a master plan in the
ETJ, but you would think that proof of sufficient infrastructure, i.e. water
and adequate entrance roads are necessary. Right now, I don't see IL as
having either of those.
Bill Smith
www.elitesoft.com
From: "Bill Smith" <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
To: "Spencer Thompson" <sthompson @ci.college - station.tx.us>
Date: 3/27/02 4:20PM
Subject: IL Master Plan Status
Spencer,
My understanding was that the IL master plan was approved contingent on the
developer working something out with myself on the routing of the planned
east -west arterial to the north entrance of my property. Since this routing
was not worked out to the mutual satisfaction of the developer or myself, is
the IL master plan considered approved as was submitted at the last P &Z
meeting?
I was also wondering that now the city and county knows of roadway easements
that exist along the boundary of my property, Windham's, and Woodlake, is
there any chance the planned east -west arterial will be reconsidered for
taking another route north of IL that still links up with my property at
Arrington Road? I know the developer would love that alternative and I
would prefer that option as opposed to having the arterial dead end into to
my office /soccer complex.
Bill Smith
846 -4056
www.elitesoft.com
From: "Bill Smith" <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
To: "Spencer Thompson" <sthompson @ci.college - station.tx.us>
Date: 3/22/02 3:53PM
Subject: Fw: What's Going On?
Spencer,
Below is an exchange that you may find interesting. I had thought discussions on the 100' row IL entrance
road was still underway as late as this Thursday afternoon (3- 21 -02). In fact, the email in italics from Paul
Clarke at 2:09 of that day indicated that he was still trying to get me an overlay showing a slightly adjusted
row compared to the initial 100' row Kling drew
But when I spoke to Chuck Ellison at 4:OOpm that same day, I discovered that the developer had actually
abandoned the idea days ago despite the very recent email indicating he was still thinking about it.
So I just want you to know that I was still happy to look at adjustments but the developer must have
decided that he needed such a huge routing change to save costs that he decided to the abandon the
idea.
Bill
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From: Bill Smith
To: Chuck Ellison
Cc: Paul Clarke
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: What's Going On?
Chuck,
What are you are saying below does not reconcile with the email I received below at 2:09pm from Paul
just a couple of hours before we talked. If the decision to abandon discussion of moving the arterial had
already been made, as I now realize it had, why did Paul write the email below so soon before our
discussion indicating that he was still trying to get an overlay done for my review concerning the 100' row
proposal? Why didn't he just come out and say you guys had dropped consideration of that?
Bill,
agree that in theory the overlay didn't appear to be a major request.
made the request and was told that the engineers were buried. I think that
Ray Crow reporting to the engineer that the commissioner would not support a
non 90* intersection along with them still playing catch up after Spring
Break had something to do with it. The request is still in to get the
overlay done for you they just have not promised me when they can deliver
it. I'll work on speeding it up if I can.
Paul
Whatever the reason Paul was not upfront about this, I must tell you that it does not encourage
cooperation.
Bill
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From: "Chuck Ellison" <chuck @ellisonlaw.com>
To: "'Bill Smith "' <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
Cc: "Paul Clarke" <clarke @tca.net>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:52 PM
Subject: RE: What's Going On?
M.
Paul asked me to respond to your e-mail.
I feel you are inaccurately characterizing our conversation
I asked for a Wellborn Water easement on your side of the private access
easement in exchange for providing you water for your new office. You said
you did not need the water and I said that we would work something else out.
I told you that after we had completed the engineering necessary to make the
proposed intersection comply with the required curvatures etc, we began to
redesign the impacted initial phases of the development and realized that
the loss of revenue and additional cost was too high. You would not share
in the cost because you said there was not incentive to spend money to move
the arterial when you have no intention of ever developing your property.
You would not provide additional land for "squaring up" of the arterial and
Arrington because that would interfere with your planned building. We were
trying to accommodate you by moving the arterial and, try as we might, we
just could not find a mutually agreeable solution.
We have to move forward because of the time requirements. I advised the
County and the City yesterday that we were abandoning the plan because we
could not reach an agreement that was acceptable to both sides.
We regret that it did not work out and appreciate your time and effort in
attempting to move the arterial.
Chuck
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From: Bill Smith [mailto:bsmith @elitesoft.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:32 AM
To: Paul Clarke
Cc: Chuck Ellison
Subject: What's Going On?
Paul,
I spoke with Chuck Ellison on Thursday afternoon. He called to ask if I
would give a water line easement on my property alongside the current IL
entrance road. I said, "What about the 100' row proposal and the minor
adjustment of 14' more width that is still being evaluated? You know that I
am waiting to see an row overlay of the minor adjustment Paul proposed
compared to the first 100' row drawn. In fact, I just received an email
today from Paul where he said he would work on speeding up the engineers to
create the overlay for my review."
Chuck said, "There is no further consideration of trying to have a 100' row
road to the entrance of IL. We are just going to go with what we have and
we would like a water line to be placed on your property to the side of that
road."
Of course, this exchange completely contradicts my current understanding of
the situation. Is this just a miscommunication between developer and
attorney or has the situation really changed to what Chuck described to me?
From: "Bill Smith" <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
To: "Stephen Cast' <sccast @aol.com >, "Chuck Ellison" <chuck @ellisonlaw.com >, "Paul
Clarke" <clarke @tca.net >, "Tony Jones" <tjones @co.brazos.tx.us >, "Ray Crow"
<rcrow@co. brazos.tx. us>, "Spencer Thompson" < sthompson @ci. col leg e- station.tx.us>
Date: 3/22/02 12:12PM
Subject: Arrington Road Info
Guys,
I spoke with Joe Bewley recently and learned some information about
Arrington Road that will likely be helpful in determining the status of the
portion of Arrington Road that heads east into the entrance of the new
Indian Lakes (IL) development. I am referring to the dog leg portion that
takes a 90 degree turn east at the end of the straight portion of Arrington
Road.
Joe says that the county has been involved since day one on Arrington Road
even including the dog leg portion of Arrington leading right up to the pipe
gate of the IL development. Joe says that the county put in place the
fences on his property line to fence off Arrington Road, again even
including for the dog leg portion. Joe says that Cooley was the
commissioner at the time Arrington Road was taken over by the county and
that Cooley can be contacted to confirm all this.
This is not to mention of course that the dog leg portion of Arrignton has
been open to public access all that time and does receive frequent and
regular maintenance from the county. For whatever its worth, I think any
investigation on the status of the dog leg portion of Arrington Road will
confirm that it is indeed a county road.
Bill Smith
www.elitesoft.com
From: "Bill Smith" <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
To: "Spencer Thompson" <shompson @ci.college - station.tx.us>
Date: 3/19/02 3:59PM
Subject: IL Entrance Road Status
Spencer,
I agreed to accept the widening of the existing Indian Lakes (IL) entrance
road as Kling initially drew it. I believe you have a copy of that drawing.
It just basically adds width southward to the existing entrance road so that
it has a 100' ROW.
The problem is that once Paul Clarke studied that option more, he didn't
like the costs he would incur trying to reroute the pipeline and relocate
some lots. Paul even had the gall to ask if I would help defray development
costs if the entrance road was left in that position. Otherwise, he insists
that the IL entrance road must be moved further south to the middle of my
parking lot and that I should give up all the resulting land from that move
completely for free.
I told Paul that I am not interested in considering road alternatives where
I just give away more land to make his development more profitable.
Amazingly enough, that is what he actually wants me to do.
So unless Paul accepts the widening of the existing IL entrance road as
first drawn by Kling, then there is nothing worked out between the developer
and myself concerning the entrance road to IL. Feel free to call me at
846 -4056 or send email if you have questions.
Bill
From: Spencer Thompson
To: cfwilliams @spa.ars.usda.gov; Jane Kee; jhapp @tamu.edu; Ken Fogle;
khawthorne @bruchez.com; mcmath @fabtexas.com; Molly Hitchcock; Natalie Ruiz;
rick -floyd @tamu.edu; rkaiser @tamu.edu; Sabine Kuenzel; Stewart Kling; Susan Hazlett;
trapani717 @aol.com
Date: 3/1/02 6:37PM
Subject: Indian Lakes Subdivision Master Development Plan (MDP 02 -016)
To All Concerned,
I would like to clear up a matter concerning my Staff Report on Indian Lakes Subdivision Master
Development Plan . In my Summary I state that: "The Subdivision Regulations clearly prohibit direct
residential access to Arterial roadways ".
To say "clearly prohibit" is not entirely accurate. The applicable Regulation concerning access is found in
Chapter 9: SUBDIVISIONS, SECTION 12: RURAL RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS,
Section I: Streets, Part .9: Principal Streets on Master Plan. It reads:
Where a subdivision embraces a major or minor arterial or collector street as shown on the City of College
Station Thoroughfare and Transportation Improvement Plan, such street shall be platted to maintain
continuity in the approximate location as shown, and of the type indicated. In certain cases the City may
have constructed a street through the area to be subdivided, in which case the subdivider shall develop
the necessary street intersections at his expense, in accordance with the requirements of this chapter.
The Planning & Zoning Commission may require that, where practical, residential lots adjacent to
arterial streets or parkways be platted or restricted so as to prevent driveways opening into such
streets.
All principal streets, major and minor arterials and collectors (if they will be continuous beyond the rural
residential subdivision) shall be constructed to urban standards as contained in Section 8 -G, Streets. All
residential streets and those collectors, which are wholly contained within the rural residential subdivision
and provide internal circulation for the rural residential subdivision(s) only, may be constructed to the
standards contained within this section.
Whereas Section 12 is intended for rural subdivisions in the city limits, Section 13 for ETJ subdivisions
refers back to Section 12.
The Applicant contacted me and was concerned with the severity of the aforementioned statement. In all
honesty, the Regulations do not clearly prohibit such. I hope this misstatement has not induced any bias
on your part concerning this matter.
Staff has discussed this issue for some time and feels that residential access should be limited on
Arterials such as in this case. Even if this roadway does not fully develop arterial traffic for 10 years, now
is the time to set the limits. Staff feels that allowing each lot to have a driveway onto the Arterial will only
create problems in the future. Mr. Ken Fogle, Transportation Planner, may wish to speak at the Thursday
night meeting concerning this issue. Applicants who attend Predevelopment Meetings, as in this case, are
cautioned that the Commission looks at access issues intently. The Applicant was not told the
Commission would not allow the access, only that the Commission has raised the issue on previous
cases.
It is my understanding that the Applicant wishes to discuss before the Commission the specifics of this
case as to applicability of the "where practical" statement in the Ordinance.
Regards,
Spencer
From: Spencer Thompson
To: cfwilliams @spa.ars.usda.gov; Jane Kee; jhapp @tamu.edu; Ken Fogle;
khawthorne @bruchez.com; mcmath @fabtexas.com; Molly Hitchcock; Natalie Ruiz;
rick- floyd @tamu.edu; rkaiser @tamu.edu; Sabine Kuenzel; Stewart Kling; Susan Hazlett;
trapani717 @aol.com
Date: 3/1/02 6:37PM
Subject: Indian Lakes Subdivision Master Development Plan (MDP 02 -016)
To All Concerned,
I would like to clear up a matter concerning my Staff Report on Indian Lakes Subdivision Master
Development Plan . In my Summary I state that: "The Subdivision Regulations clearly prohibit direct
residential access to Arterial roadways ".
To say "clearly prohibit' is not entirely accurate. The applicable Regulation concerning access is found in
Chapter 9: SUBDIVISIONS, SECTION 12: RURAL RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS,
Section I: Streets, Part .9: Principal Streets on Master Plan. It reads:
Where a subdivision embraces a major or minor arterial or collector street as shown on the City of College
Station Thoroughfare and Transportation Improvement Plan, such street shall be platted to maintain
continuity in the approximate location as shown, and of the type indicated. In certain cases the City may
have constructed a street through the area to be subdivided, in which case the subdivider shall develop
the necessary street intersections at his expense, in accordance with the requirements of this chapter.
The Planning & Zoning Commission may require that, where practical, residential lots adjacent to
arterial streets or parkways be platted or restricted so as to prevent driveways opening into such
streets.
All principal streets, major and minor arterials and collectors (if they will be continuous beyond the rural
residential subdivision) shall be constructed to urban standards as contained in Section 8 -G, Streets. All
residential streets and those collectors, which are wholly contained within the rural residential subdivision
and provide internal circulation for the rural residential subdivision(s) only, may be constructed to the
standards contained within this section.
Whereas Section 12 is intended for rural subdivisions in the city limits, Section 13 for ETJ subdivisions
refers back to Section 12.
The Applicant contacted me and was concerned with the severity of the aforementioned statement. In all
honesty, the Regulations do not clearly prohibit such. I hope this misstatement has not induced any bias
on your part concerning this matter.
Staff has discussed this issue for some time and feels that residential access should be limited on
Arterials such as in this case. Even if this roadway does not fully develop arterial traffic for 10 years, now
is the time to set the limits. Staff feels that allowing each lot to have a driveway onto the Arterial will only
create problems in the future. Mr. Ken Fogle, Transportation Planner, may wish to speak at the Thursday
night meeting concerning this issue. Applicants who attend Predevelopment Meetings, as in this case, are
cautioned that the Commission looks at access issues intently. The Applicant was not told the
Commission would not allow the access, only that the Commission has raised the issue on previous
cases.
It is my understanding that the Applicant wishes to discuss before the Commission the specifics of this
case as to applicability of the "where practical' statement in the Ordinance.
Regards,
Spencer
From: "Bill Smith" <bsmith @elitesoft.com>
To: "Spencer Thompson" < Sthompson @ci.college - station.tx.us>
Date: 4/8/02 11:42AM
Subject: Conversation with Tony
Spencer,
It was good I talked to Tony today because I don't think he realized that
the developer was still trying to leave the arterial dead ended into my
property. Tony saw a cul -de -sac there on the plans, but did not realize
that the cul -de -sac represented a dead ended arterial.
I went over all this in more detail with Tony and he finally understood and
said he would call you. Maybe you have already spoken with him.
Tony was glad I called. I don't think he originally understood what was
going on with the city's thoroughfare plan.
As I mentioned earlier, unless the arterial is planned through the IL
entrance then IL will be left with a county road with insufficient ROW to be
paved or to allow a water line to run underneath it.
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MEMORANDUM
February 28, 2002
TO: Planning and Zoning Commission
FROM: Spencer Thompson, Dev Serv, Engineering
Email: sthompson @ci.college - station.tx.us
SUBJECT: MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN for INDIAN LAKES SUBDIVISION
(MDP)
Item: Discussion and possible action on a MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN for
INDIAN LAKES SUBDIVISION (MDP), consisting of approximately 1,400 acres in the
City's ETJ Area. (2- 500016)
Applicant: Kling Engineering for Smiling Mallard Development, Ltd.
Staff Recommendations: Staff recommends approval with the following condition:
• Residential lots along Cheyenne Trail shall not take direct access from the arterial
roadway. This MDP can be approved "as is" with this understanding or can be
amended and resubmitted for consideration.
Item Summary: This item is for the consideration of a Master Development Plan for
the Indian Lakes Subdivision. Master Development Plans, as described in the
Subdivision Regulations, are to depict the following items:
• proposed land uses, including but not limited to street rights -of -way;
• proposed zoning changes
• proposed drainage development
• proposed public improvements, including but not limited to parks, schools, and other
public facilities
As the Commission may remember, the Indian Lakes Developers appeared before you
to propose several locations for the Minor Arterial, Cheyenne Trail. This Minor arterial
is to cross State Highway 6 at the Over Pass near the Speedway and travel in a
southwesterly direction. Alignments for roadways on the Thoroughfare Plan are set
when properties are planned and /or platted. The drawings presented to you showed
the proposed lot layouts for the entire subdivision, being approximately 1,400 acres.
This Master Development Plan shows a detailed street layout for the northwestern 545
acres with 4 large reserve tracts making up the remaining 855 acres. The reserve
tracts reflect only the Collector road to which future local streets will feed. All of the
road and lot layouts will come back before the Commission for Preliminary Plat
approval.
The unresolved issue concerning this Master Development Plan is allowing direct,
residential access to a Minor Arterial. Whereas the Development Plan does not show
lot layout, the Developer is not providing access to the property north of Cheyenne
Trail, a Minor Arterial, other than Cheyenne Trail. It is assumed the Developer plans to
have these lots take direct driveway access to Cheyenne. As depicted in a previous
version of this plan, other lots to the west along Cheyenne Trail take direct access, as
well. The Subdivision Regulations clearly prohibit direct residential access to Arterial
roadways.
The Developer is providing a Rural Collector, Indian Lakes Drive, as the principle
roadway through the subdivision. Based upon calculations by the City's Transportation
Planner, this road section is sufficient for the subdivision in its entirety. What appears
to be a problem is that Indian Lakes Drive connects to Cherokee Drive and Arrington
Road, both of which are in adequate for the traffic this subdivision will generate.
Cherokee Drive is only a 19' gravel road with 60 -ft ROW at its connection point with
Cherokee Drive. Arrington Road is not paved for approximately 1 quarter of a mile
before it ends. A 60 -ft easement provides access from Arrington to this property.
There have been discussions with the Developer concerning upgrading both these
access points. Currently our Subdivision Regulations do not directly address negative
impacts to surrounding substandard roadway infrastructure. Therefore, this Master
Development Plan meets minimum City criteria. Such negative impacts will fall to local
public entities to address.
Comprehensive Plan Considerations:
Land Use Plan: N/A (ETJ)
Thoroughfare Plan: Arrington Road is a Major Collector and is technically off -site of
this project. The TP depicts an unnamed Minor Arterial crossing this property.
Parkland Dedication: N/A (ETJ)
Open Space Dedication: Thirty -one acre Environmental Preserve dedicated for
endangered species. This is not being dedicated to the city.
Special Area Plans: N/A (ETJ)
Budgetary & Financial Summary: N/A (ETJ)
Attachments:
1. Area map
2. Application
3. Copy of Plan
MEMORANDUM
April 10, 2002
TO: Planning and Zoning Commission
FROM: Spencer Thompson, Dev Serv, Engineering
Email: sthompson @ci.college - station.tx.us
SUBJECT: MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN for INDIAN LAKES SUBDIVISION
(MDP)
Item: Discussion and possible action on a MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN for
INDIAN LAKES SUBDIVISION (MDP), consisting of approximately 1,400 acres in the
City's ETJ Area. (2- 500016)
Applicant: Kling Engineering for Smiling Mallard Development, Ltd.
Staff Recommendations: Staff recommends that the Commission consider the two
outstanding issues and come to a resolution:
• Thoroughfare issue: Staffs position is that the arterial should be routed to the north.
• Access issue: Staffs position is that Lots 15 and 16, Block 5 should take access
form Sundance Drive or Cheyenne Trail.
Item Summary: This item is to reconsider a Master Development Plan for the Indian
Lakes Subdivision.
On 3/11/02, the Commission approved the Master Development Plan for this property
with the understanding that the arterial roadway would be rerouted to the north and
there would not be any direct driveway access to the arterial. The Applicant submitted
an alignment that was approved by Staff. The Applicant has since decided that the
alignment is not to their liking and has proposed to go back with the original Plan. The
Applicant submitted a Preliminary Plat and was told that the Preliminary Plat did not
comply with the approved MDP. Consequently, the MDP must go back to the
Commission for review.
It is Staffs opinion that the arterial should be routed to the north as proposed. Staff
would like to make the following points:
• The arterial can be aligned on Indian Lakes however they see fit, as long as it meets
arterial criteria. One alignment proposed early on was a straight roadway along the
north property line. The Developers opted not to do this. Now they are saying
realignment is too costly.
• The City is not requiring the Developer to construct the arterial pavement section.
They are only required to construct what they need according to the estimated traffic
generation by the proposed development.
• If the arterial dead -ends into the Smith property, it is highly likely that it will not be
continued in the future. If the arterial is routed to the north, it is highly likely that it
will be continued in the future and serve its intended purpose.
• Mr. Smith has stated that he is willing to grant additional ROW if the arterial is routed
to the North.
• The County has determined that the current road into Indian Lakes is County ROW,
approximately 42' wide. This is insufficient for any county road or utility
improvements.
It is Staffs opinion that Lots 15 and 16, Block 5 should take access form Sundance
Drive or Cheyenne Trail. Mesa Verde is, or will be, a minor arterial. Design speed on
an arterial is 40 mph. Ideally, local streets intersect with collectors, collectors intersect
with arterials, and arterials intersect with freeways. Numerous, local intersections,
especially short stubs, will render the arterial ineffective. Access to these lots can be
accomplished by extending one or more of the adjacent cul -de -sacs.
This MDP must be approved as submitted in order to consider the Indian Lakes
Preliminary Plat.
Please see the previous Staff Report (attached) for additional information.
Comprehensive Plan Considerations:
Land Use Plan: N/A (ETJ)
Thoroughfare Plan: Arrington Road is a Major Collector and is technically off -site of
this project. The TP depicts an unnamed Minor Arterial crossing this property.
Parkland Dedication: N/A (ETJ)
Open Space Dedication: Thirty -one acre Environmental Preserve dedicated for
endangered species. This is not a dedication to the city.
Special Area Plans: N/A (ETJ)
Budgetary & Financial Summary: N/A (ETJ)
Attachments:
1. Area map
2. Application
3. Copy of MDP
4. Copy of Staff Report #1
Development Services Department
MEMORANDUM
To: File
From: Kelly Templin -
Date: 17 June 2003
RE: Access to properties south of Indian Lakes Subdivision
Please be careful to require access from Indian Lakes Subdivision to all those
properties south of and adjacent to Indian Lakes that, without such
connectivity, may have acreage isolated by Peach Creek. The master
development plan dated March 21, 2001 illustrates a number of access points
to the south. Staff will have to evaluate each phase of Indian Lakes to insure
adequate connectivity.
Bridgette George - Re: 1300 acres off Arrington Page 1
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From: Jane Kee
To: Bridgette George; Molly Hitchcock; Spencer Thompson
Date: 4/4/01 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: 1300 acres off Arrington
Ed does not recall seeing anything to respond to regarding that minor arterial. He does recall getting a
call from Paul Clarke and talking about it. Just as I thought he said there isn't a good way to use Deer
Park as part of the alignment because of it's location is relation to where the overpass is at the
Speedway. I think it may kind of be a moot point since they have an alternative design that we seem to
feel comfortable with - at least for now without a lot of studying yet.
The 90' arterial will only require the rural collector street pavement section for now. May be years before
a widening would be necessary.
Jane Kee, AICP
City Planner
City of College Station
College Station, Tx. 77845
(979)764 -3570
FAX (979)764 -3496
College Station. Embracing the Past, Exploring the Future.
>>> Bridgette George 04/04/01 11:21AM >>>
The following are items we were going to check on before next Wednesday's meeting:
1) Check w /Engineering on allowing a road on a dam.
2) Check w /Ed Hard and TxDOT regarding the location of the overpass extension near the Speedway
and Deer Park.
3) Will the minor arterial w /90' ROW require 24' pavement or more?
4) Staff will review the conceptual thoroughfare location submitted at the meeting.
Thank you!
Bridgette George :o)
Asst. Development Review Manager
City of College Station
(979) 764 -3570
(979) 764 -3496 (Fax)
www.ci.college- station.tx.us
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TO' Kelly Templin A.I.C.P.
Director of Development Services
City of College Station
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Certified Floodplain Manager
Director of Planning & Traffic
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This is to advise that administration of the FEMA Floodplain in the
unincorporated areas of Brazos County, Texas is conducted by the County Engineer's
office. The administration of said FEMA Floodplain also includes the areas within the
extra territorial jurisdiction of Cities of Bryan and College Station, and we intend to
exercise jurisdiction in said FEMA designated floodplains.
I have reviewed the master preliminary plat of the 9,397 acre subdivision named
Indian Lakes, and find that, with the exception of the cul -d"ac lengths, it complies with
the County's requirements for a preliminary plat.
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April 18, 2002
TO: Kelly Templin A.I.C.P.
Director of Development Services
City of College Station
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Certified Floodplain Manager
Director of Planning & Traffic
Brazos County, Texas
Commissioner Charles B. Jones, Precinct 3
Commissioner Carey Cauloy, Precinct 4
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office. The administration of said FEMA Floodplain also includes the areas within the
extra territorial jurisdiction of Cities of Bryan and College Station, and we intend to
exercise jurisdiction in said FEMA designated floodplains.
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the County's requirements for a preliminary plat.
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