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HomeMy WebLinkAbout00070924CITY OF COLLEGE STATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES 1101 Texas Avenue South, PO Box 9960 College Station, Texas 77842 Phone (979) 764 -3570 / Fax (979) 764 -3496 MEMORANDUM TO: File FROM: Molly Hitchcock, Staff Planner DATE: March 23, 2001 SUBJECT: Subway signage on the corner of HWY 6 and University I called Robert Rutledge on Thursday, March 22, 2001 and told him that by adding the Subway sign to the side of the existing signage, he would almost be doubling the area of the signage because of our "invisible rectangle" rule. He will be calling back with the size of the existing signage so I can find out if he has exceeded his allowable area. He informed me that the background color shown on the sign is not correct, that the background is black, not brown. There are only two colors on the existing signage, so the yellow of the Subway sign is allowed. We also talked about the Overlay District, restrictions on signage in this district, the process of getting a proposal approved by the PRC, and the necessity of the proposed Subway attached signage to go before the PRC. EN Hitchcock - Subway building signs Page 1 From: "Robert Rutledge" <robert@mcco - adsigns.com> To: <mhitchcock @ci.college - station.tx.us> Date: 4/16/01 1:18PM Subject: Subway building signs Molly, We will paint to match the "SUB" in subway to the light grey colored banding on the building. Please call or email me so that I know you got this. Thanks, Robert. FACSIMILE COVER SHEET CITY OF COLLEGE STATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES 1101 Texas Avenue South, PO Box 9960 College Station, Texas 77842 Phone (409)764 -3570 / Fax (409)764 -3496 Date: March 27, 2001 # of pages including cover: 7 If you did not receive a complete fax, please call our office immediately for a new transmittal. TO: Robert Rutledge FAX: 775.3654 COMPANY: McCo -Ad Sign Co. RE: ZBA application FROM: Molly Hitchcock PHONE: 979.764.3570 COMPANY: City of College Station REMARKS: [] Urgent E] For your review D Replay ASAP ® FYI FYI (you'll need this for the variance request): The allowable area for a freestanding sign on a property with 270 ft. of frontage is 150 sq.ft. 03/27/01 13:03 %T979 764 3496 DEVELOPMENT SVCS 16001 ACTIVITY REPORT TRANSMISSION OK TX /RX NO. 7223 CONNECTION TEL 9p7753654 CONNECTION ID START TIME 03/27 13:01 USAGE TIME 02'01 PAGES 7 RESULT OK PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE (PRC) MEETING May 4, 2001 TO: Robert Rutledge, McCo -Ad Sign Co., via fax 775 -3654 Bert Keller, Subway, via fax 693 -1593 FROM: PRC Review Subcommittee: Karl Mooney, P &Z Commissioner Rick Floyd, P &Z Commissioner Judy Warren, P &Z Commissioner Staff Attending: Molly Hitchcock, Staff Planner Tammy Macik, Secretary SUBJECT: SubwayRestaurant. proposal of putting attached Subway signage at the rear and front facades of the building located 804 Earl Rudder Freeway South (01-78) The PRC held a meeting on Wednesday, April 18, 2001 to review the above - mentioned project. Commissioner Mooney stated the sign has a backlit sign and the bright white SUB letters are more of subdue ivory color and flush mounted against the building. Commissioner Floyd asked about the overlay requirements for signage. Staff Planner Hitchcock stated that the one of the colors have to match one of the predominate colors of the building. Commissioner Floyd asked if signage is permitted on the building. Staff Planner Hitchcock stated that the ordinance states 2 attached and 1 detached signs is permitted. Hitchcock also mentioned there have been questions in regards to a building having multiple tenants. Staff Planner Hitchcock spoke with Senior Planner Kuenzel and she stated that the intention was for business purposes and it occurred before there was multi -use convenience facility. Commissioner Warren questioned if there has ever been a request for more than one sign in this overlay district before. Staff Planner Hitchcock said none that she is aware of. Commissioner Floyd and Commissioner Warren both did not agree with having multiple signs on the existing building. Commissioner Warren suggested putting the sign on the door and having the big freestanding sign out front would be sufficient. Mr. Rutledge stated the freestanding sign does not have much visibility. Commissioner Floyd said once the median is built, it would be hard to see anyway. Staff Planner Hitchcock interject by stating that the ordinance does say 2 signs are permitted and right now there are not any other signs. Commissioner Floyd wants to keep the single tenant look to it and was opposed to any signage on the building. Commissioner Mooney stated his interpretations are to allow business to have the identification of signs. Commissioner Warren motioned to table without prejudice to get clarification and request a legal interpretation. Commissioner Floyd seconded it. The motion passed 2 -1. PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE (PRC) MEETING May 4, 2001 TO: Robert Rutledge, McCo -Ad Sign Co., via fax 775 -3654 Bert Keller, Subway, via fax 693 -1593 FROM: PRC Review Subcommittee: Karl Mooney, P &Z Commissioner Rick Floyd, P &Z Commissioner Judy Warren, P &Z Commissioner Staff Attending: Molly Hitchcock, Staff Planner Tammy Macik, Secretary SUBJECT: SubwayRestaurant. proposal of putting attached Subway signage at the rear and front facades of the building located 804 Earl Rudder Freeway South (01-78) The PRC held a meeting on Wednesday, April 18, 2001 to review the above - mentioned project. Commissioner Mooney stated the sign has a backlit sign and the bright white SUB letters are more of subdue ivory color and flush mounted against the building. Commissioner Floyd asked about the overlay requirements for signage. Staff Planner Hitchcock stated that the one of the colors have to match one of the predominate colors of the building. Commissioner Floyd asked if signage is permitted on the building. Staff Planner Hitchcock stated that the ordinance states 2 attached and 1 detached signs is permitted. Hitchcock also mentioned there have been questions in regards to a building having multiple tenants. Staff Planner Hitchcock spoke with Senior Planner Kuenzel and she stated that the intention was for business purposes and it occurred before there was multi-use convenience facility. Commissioner Warren questioned if there has ever been a request for more than one sign in this overlay district before. Staff Planner Hitchcock said none that she is aware of. Commissioner Floyd and Commissioner Warren both did not agree with having multiple signs on the existing building. Commissioner Warren suggested putting the sign on the door and having the big freestanding sign out front would be sufficient. Mr. Rutledge stated the freestanding sign does not have much visibility. Commissioner Floyd said once the median is built, it would be hard to see anyway. Staff Planner Hitchcock interject by stating that the ordinance does say 2 signs are permitted and right now there are not any other signs. Commissioner Floyd wants to keep the single tenant look to it and was opposed to any signage on the building. Commissioner Mooney stated his interpretations are to allow business to have the identification of signs. Commissioner Warren motioned to table without prejudice to get clarification and request a legal interpretation. Commissioner Floyd seconded it. The motion passed 2 -1. Transmit Log Record Status Log Date Time To BitWare Client Company Application Page 1 OK 97 7/5/01 18:00:42 Mike Hester Hester Engineering Microsoft Word - Draft T1.doc k 101 7/20/01 13:37:24 Robert Rutledge Mc CoAd Signs Microsoft Word - PZ04714.DOC 103 7/20/01 13:41:40 Fran Lamb Microsoft Word - PZ05008.DOC O K K 100.1 7/20/01 13:44:02 Burt Keller Subway Restaurants Microsoft Word - PZ04714.DOC OK 104.2 7/20/01 13:56:18 Robert Mills Mills Homes Microsoft Word - PZ05008.DOC ()/- --1(8 P",� q --� C/ r-14 MVYW"t AGENDA Project Review Committee CITY OF COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS City Hall Council Chambers 1101 Texas Avenue Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:00 A.M. Subwav Restaurant Discussion and consideration of the proposed attached Su way sign ge at the rear and front facades of the building located at 804 Earl Rudder Freeway South (01- 78) 14 bdivision: Discussion and consideration or a driveway variance request veways located on a single family residential lot at 3203 Salzburg. (01 -143) This building is wheelchair accessible. Handicapped parking spaces are available. Any request for sign interpretive services must be made 48 hours before the meeting. To make arrangements call 409 -764- 3547 or (TDD) 1 -800- 735 -2989. PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE (PRC) MEETING July 20, 2001 TO: Robert Ruthledge, McCo -Ad Sign Co., via fax 775 -3654 Bert Keller, Subway, via fax 693 -1593 FROM: PRC Review Subcommittee: Rick Floyd, P &Z Commissioner John Happ, P &Z Commissioner Ray Harris, P &Z Commissioner Staff Attending: Bridgette George, Asst. Development Review Manager Jessica Jimmerson, Staff Planner Molly Hitchcock, Staff Planner Jennifer Reeves, Staff Planner Tammy Macik, Secretary SUBJECT: SubwayRestaurant.• the proposal of installing Subway signs at the rear and front fagade of the building located at 804 Earl Rudder Freeway South (01-78) The PRC held a meeting on Wednesday, June 20, 2001 to review the above - mentioned project. Mr. Keller stated from the meeting held in April, the original issue was trying to set up a color scheme that would match what the ordinance states. The ordinance states that the signs can only have three colors and one of those colors must match one of the predominate color of the building. Also, at the last meeting in April, the interpretation of the ordinance regarding the number of signs a business can have became an issue; therefore it was referred to legal. Staff Planner Hitchcock mentioned Legal would send out a memo stating they would answer specific questions, but would not be attending these types of meetings. She continued by stating that according to the ordinance, the Subway building was considered a shopping center. The definition of a shopping center is 3 or more businesses. Shopping centers, excluding gas stations, are allowed unlimited signs according to Legal. Legal has said that Subway is allowed to have the number of attached signs they have requested, but PRC has the discretion of the color scheme and placement of the signs. Commissioner Happ questioned how many signs they could have. Staff Planner Hitchcock stated it was unlimited and that the ordinance is less strict on attached signage than it is on the freestanding sign. Commissioner Happ said, while serving on ZBA, it was his understanding that businesses were allowed one freestanding and one structure sign. Commissioner Floyd stated that was also his understanding and would abstain from voting because he felt that was not the information given when this site was approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission. Commissioner Happ recommended using one single attached sign with the corporate colors. Mr. Keller stated that they were trying to attract people coming from out of town and leaving town. Commissioner Floyd asked how people were going to get to Subway once the median was built. Mr. Rutledge replied that there was a connection between Cheddar's and Exxon. Staff Planner Hitchcock stated that to comply with the ordinance, staff still held the position of not restricting the number of attached signs. Commissioner Happ asked if Subway owned the freestanding sign. Mr. Keller stated yes. Commissioner Happ moved to approve the corporate standard sign for the front of building only and the freestanding sign. Commissioner Harris seconded. Staff Planner Hitchcock commented that the PRC had the power approve the colors. Commissioner Happ commented that if the PRC did not have the authority to restrict the number of signs, he moved to approve the corporate colors of the sign as long it remained in the sign ordinance. Commissioner Harris seconded. Commissioner Floyd abstained from voting. The vote passed 2 -0. To clarify, Mr. Keller stated that they could have 2 attached signs —one in front and one in back —and could stick to the original colors along with the freestanding sign. As far as the size of the sign, the sign can not extend over a foot of the building edge according to Staff Planner Hitchcock.