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I~~EEE~~ r~E~ENTi ~harm~n Sawtelle, ~ernb~r~-H~.1I~ Gentry,
Esmond, and Cels~n. ~C~uncil I~iaisor~
~IcIlha~ey was in t~i~ audience.`
~EE~~ A~SE~T: Vice ~ha.~rman Dresses aid ~emb~~ Michel.
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{ ti~~'~.~'F P~E~EI~T i ~.ss ist i r~~,ty Atta~n~~r C~at~s , Senior
~iane~ fee ~ City Fl~.nner dal l~~ay, ~~-~~
En i.ne~r Pollen, ar.~ Euildirg T~c~n~-~.an
Thera
AGEI~~A ITEM N0. 1: Approval of l~inut~s - meetin+q of October
~.~~Q~
~h~ ~ r~1~.n ~awtel le pointed out correct? C~nS tQ the m~n~tes .
the d~..rected' staff tc~ include fir'. ~o~er' s ad~.ress on the
j},, ~pyr
t.hlx~d pa~'e ~f trht., ~~..nUtei..~ 4 I~r t C~~ /JtJn Il~ade a i~~t? ~n tC~
a' ppro Yre thV ?111nt~tes wlt~1 the nt~ted '/VrreCtl'~ns . I4'~r i Ha+.
~ec~nded the ~eti~~ which oarried unanim~~.~ly~ (4-~~
~ha rm~~.n Sa~~ e l l e ab~ta~.n~d since ~h~ was ret prese'rt at the
last ~~etin~.
AGEI~I~A ITEM N(~. Z : A public hearing to consider ,a Final
Plat of the`~andall's Univer~'ity Park Subdivision ~~eplat of
fc~rmer~#~~~niversity Plaza and chimney Hill Subdivisions.}
+~ase No. ~0-~ 18 .
L. y E~~~ S L~ e 1. ~~~ ~~ i..' n p r ~r s e. n t e d t ~h t.J ~ t Vi f f r `...~ p ~..~ ~:t i' 2 1 L s U i. i,i
that ~~iltyand priv~t~ access ease~ents ~iad begin
~ ree~~nf~.~~~ed. The firmer Un.~versi~y Playa :had ~ lets, th c
Dr~~~csal ~~as 3 i Lit ~ ~h~l~ nit ~e ~es~.~n~.t~d ~s
';~
~.~~i na~~ ~aseme'nt s ~ra.lna~e fcr' d~velo~ment will b~ handled
~~ ~t ~ ~.~~e ~ f site p ~ anin
~~ . Es~~~nd a~~e~ i f ~~l ~ en was a~ef arr~.n~ t~ the rc~rthe~n
~~~r~ l.e~ ~ f the replat
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.fir + ~~1 l e~ ~~~d that he ~~~as r~~err i ng to the ~.~ea ~t. the end
~ ~~1~1ne ~i l ~. ~r i ~~ . - ~e ~~l.d that the C~ thE'r ~ha~C~e was
~ ~
~ t:h.a~ the old plat shall be called ~.:~~ "~~l.~in~l" plat
nstead ~~ a 3,~~~c~tin=~" pl'at
ors Esmond as~ec~ ~f the a~ fi ~~sem~nt ~.s ~.r~~l~ded in t.~i~ ~.ew
~~.~ry~
P~ I~.in~tes ~ ~- ~g,..~G ~
.rF`Pullen an ~ered yes.
~ha i rear ~~c~te~.le ~pen~~. the ~~:~1 ie heari~q i
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R~~ ~am.mons ~f ~~GC ~. kyle car~~e forward as the ~~~al
~°:epre~~ntat i ~R fir` d~v~e];ep~nent e f ~arda~ Is . ~~ sa.~d that
t~"Ie d~'al~'ia~e ease111ent was petted aS st,~~h r ~t 'thy ~~.tv' S
r~que~~. H~~,~e~rPr~ the owner d.c~es net ~~~~ect t~ i~.~ remav~~.
from t~.e ~~:at. He said th,~t it till h~ hand.led during the
si~~ p.~~~ p?~ac~ss. This area will held ~~n-off ~efc~re and
af~.er d~ve~~p~~nt; He explained that it will ~~ des.~~ne~ to
d ~~:ai w~te~ and rat giver? oad the s stem d~wnst~~am He
e ~ Y
~~.~~: that wat,~r w~~ be de~~air~ed` temparari~~. N~ water
~eatu ~~ i rterded + He. then ir~treduced C~ Pr Dickerson , ~.he
architect ar~d ~c~e R~~ l ins ~ the Randal l s rear e~e~tat~e the
were available far g~estiens. a~m~ns conc~r~ed with
~taf f T ~ c~n~ment~ . He ~~ i d that tr~aff i c i m~a~t' studies have
beep ~.b~~.tted
a
~ ~~ ~,, i~ ` ~ • C ~ he 10 0 year f l cod I a in
1°~r .~5m,.,nd. asked li ~,~t ~ is In p
~.
~` hlnc~IS Said that_ It teas nct. None ~f this Site is 1~1
the '~~~ ~:~a~ flood glair,
fir. fall asked ~he~e the d~ainaae from 1Qts 2 & ~ ~'QeS.
~r ~ hammers :said. that.. roan-off` from upstream development
~~mes in~~ the pre~ert~~ to a yell def~n~d gun-off through
the cornea ~f this existing preper~v'. The cal-de-sic -~teuld
rema~.n the ~ar~e and net block th~~ ~' et~T o~ drainage ~ -
Mr. fall . askod about -the e:~fects of possible increased rur-
of f c~n ex.~stin~a prc~pert~, especial l~ res~derti~l homes .
i
~r Han~men:~ said. there: weld he nc additional roan-off . He
ad~~d ~ha~ the Drainage ~rdinanc~ ~~q;sires the design ~e be
ha~~d ~n 1Q0 dear fre~uenc~ c~hich .is ~ high level: e~ design
~~~eificat i ors
a
fir.: ~a I asl~ed l f the dr~ainaae area: coil l be: maint~ir:ed b
t~~e owner er tre ~.~. t~ .
fir. ~~mmens said that the lande~Trer w~;ld be ~es~cnsible.
'.. 1.. i R{ ~' ~ a i A 'lam ~~ e~ r~~ ~.J~ i. ~ V (..l .4J a i R i p w i. ~ ~i \ ~l ~.K .111 e f V r w a r d i ~~ h V {.i a .i. d t h \.A ~~.
~~Q is the ~~esident ~.~f ~:he ~~?mnev HII Homeowners
~.ss~ci~,tien. the 'paid that resi`dert~` were eonerned ~~ith
'~ ~.he r ur-elf c~ wader ~ the stated ~h~ ~ b~l I dezer~ hati•e
al~~ad~ altered t~:e creek bed: the shew~d ~~h~togr~p~hs t~
~ tl:e ~`e~nn7iss~.r~n. She said ghat the 1~~ year fled prlai.n has
~e~r a~.te~ed a.nd ~he~1e l.s already s~.ard?rg water c~i~h the
~~re~a~~ rainfall.. ~~e ~eirted opt the area t~ which she eras
~ eterr ~ ng;, car ~~~e s i ~e plar. she ~~d ~ hat tie d~Y stream
~;
p~7 ~~~,nutes ~ ~_ ~$_ ~0 3
hed is hein~ fl~.ed with brush thin, being dammed. Tie 1~0
yeas fled plain bias been altered and durin hear rain
~' Y ~ ,
the heroes eeuld flood, causing ~ heal'th hazard.
~ha~.rman ~ac~te~ 1~ summarised the te~t~~nc~ny.
S a ~~e ~ewe~r Of ~~~ ,~ampw.~c~ ` came ` ~nrtn~~rd. she sold t~':at
~ . ~~ . ~C-i d is l evel i~~ the f ~ Ci+~d lain '~a~1d ea~S i~ al ter aten
a ~
j to the ~~0 year ~f ? red plain . s~~ said tl~.at ~.~ euld cause
~ ~.~~s~rane~ problems fir hemec~wne~s ire this aria. Lace of
i ~r~~er eh.~~nel~.~atien of the creep red, ee~ld result ~.r!
~Iaadin~.: She Mated that this gay cause residents why were
j in the:50~ dear plain to be in the 10C dear flecd p~~in.
:~~r + Ha~~n~a~~s clarified that me~be'rs ~~ the a~~ien~e wee
reforrin~ tc' a di~feren~. p~ opert:~, nct Randal l s . During a
~epe~~r~.ph:r ~urve~, the -mer! cleared same brash fir:
~~r~~~n~. he wo~~ being referred to was net.:.....bein~g done by
~~ ~ Randalls. He painted tc~ the areas en tie lat. Rand
p ells
pi epert~ ends at ~,Qt ~
~I
Nor. fall asked if Ra~dalls is the owner of tho p~~p~ert~r
be~.~g -platted.
r < ~a3~lnans said that.. Rand '
alts ~~ the ~cle owner cf the
prc~per~y being platted. He reiterated that the area will be
- aesi tined accerd-ng tc 1QQ year f ? oc~~plair~ spe~if ieaticns
~ H~ said that`Randalls: ~ '~
deve l c~pm~nt t~~. ~ l not ~.ne l ude any
d~m~nin~. ~~ will incline a d~tentien facil~t~~
I~~ . ~~l scn: asked if Ran~.al,l s had started and eenstr~a~tion
~1r . -Hammcns yep]. ied na . The ~umpsters c~~ the site are them
f ~~ ` el. can-up effertS .
Mr. Fsa~.1Pn~ said that ~an~alls f ~,.A. Ford, and lst Natienal
Dank ale listed as c~w~~c~~~~~ Qn th~.s plat ~ 'L.~: acrd ~WnS the
prc:~or~Y ~.~ ~~~ii~h they are re~errin~.
1~~ ~~r~ Y t ~i~ l.:este~.l. that -.1 taf f s LbrV~i~' the dal#{aL~,{es dOTle }~~'
~ b9a1 ~~~c~~r s a~ soon as ` possibi~ .
~ Ste saia thats~:e is wcr~i~d about the;da~med creek and
change cif the 1~~ ~ea~ f lc~~plain . dater is still setal~din
+~, ~'
! ..x..,15 trll~ ~r6,.r~ fr Vtit ~este.i. d~.i~ ~i~I ran i ~~e a~~`v.~ ~[;at t~hV 'V ~t,~
1 pr~ ~"J 1./t,. t~e ~e1./.7~~ia a.t~a~ M.E. e.a ~ ~~V sa~~ t:~at: t~i~~~'. Nan \.4 ers tan~.i..
that this is not R~nd~I~'s prapert~t bit Randa~ls will
a~fe~t the` sltuatiGn dC~t~3?~St~'e~l~.
~ ~~r . ~atnz~~nr~'s sa.~d that cue as n ~t ~cr e ~ ~ ~,
r a ~.e R~.ndal ~. s ~ ~.~th
wr~rk done ~n a'crd' s prc~pert~ . ~Tcrk done alas nc~t ~.t
~andall's reg~e~t. Their do nit ~~ant tc charge the
f IcodpJ.~in nor do they want t~ re~cne the R- ~ . They wig
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PAZ Minutes 1~- ~8-~Q __,_ d
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detain ~~:te~ from their site end that of First National.
~an~.
~Ir , col sin as~~c~ whit l~~~p~ns t~ ~~ate~ from the ~ar~in~ lot
.fir, Ham~~~ns said that it c~i~l ~~~ into a detention area and
~s~ thr~u~~h a~ a bowed. r ; H~mr~~ns e~~1a~n~d the
~n~n~er.~:~~ as~eots of the detention aria.
~ ~ ~- ~ ~` oncerned
~halran :~awte~ ~ e said that ~. .~ .~it~l~ens are mope c
~,~lth ~~tlvl ~.le~ dok~nstream and 'chat ~anda~ 1. ` s ~l.anned
.ranee designs mar n~~d to ~e ~edi f i~d t~ aece~mc~dat
these ~ha~ges.C
r + ~en~.r~ as~:~d if ~esid~nt~ are ~re~~?estina that f~c~w f~em
~anda'l is not on~~~ ' he oentroll:ed to its ~r~sent rate after
~ev~I~~~nent ~ bit act~a~~~r reduced.
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~s . 'Berr~~ said that she gas concerned ~~ith ~dditio~al. run--
off due to the pa,vln~ ~,f the Randal ~'s site.
fir. Gent~'~ said. that., there ~l.l he no increased flog if
~n~in~ern~ is dune ~rc~~er ~.
~s Julie ~atenhar~er of 604 ~hmne~ Hill vc~i~ed cQndern
that. the methods ~f control mi~~t not wc.~r~ ~~~ their homes
could be flooded. the said that ~xorkda~e in the fla~d
Main could force neighbors to aet flood ihsuran~e.'
p{.~~. ~.en said that staf f will ensure p~r~~e~ drainage
~ devel~ meat by chec3~ing for ordinance c~mpl ia~ce `and proper
~ ~err~it ~ .
i
s Bury:. gas concerned` with the traffic f lo~a on Arqu~l lc~ .
~ a ~ 5 0 granted to know ghat the rear of the btu l ? ding is
the
aon~ to loc~~ life. shy a~~ed if there wolzld be an4'
.. ...
buf ferin~ o~ c~.~l 1 they .see ? nciner~tc~ s
~s i fee said that t~.¢re ~il.l be a ~~?blic meeting held for
Si~~ ~~Ia~~ ~e~fie~ end` stiff gill ca? 1 the Homeoc~ner's
~.ssof~iat er
~h~l.r~~~.n ~~..rte~ ~e e~~la.n~d ghat t~.ose concerns aril l be
1+`, T.Ih '~r~l ,{..'t.+~4~N ~../d i.r6 t tL.4e ille et ..1.. nl.~ A4ienti.~n Yd ~~ i~s• LY.Ve ~ .
Y .1- .14 +• L ~A l.~ ~ V' ~ 1../ ~ KJ a~ d t h a t t~ ~A f f .i ~ f~~ T ~I h a -~ a i V t ~ e e 3 1 f
addre~s~d ~Ut ~,~1.~~. Vie, at the t1iY.e of slue ~1.an development.
3 ~e ~a~.d that ~l ~ detai?, s ail ~ ~e ~ddres~ed at site pl~~
l meet i ~~~ .
I~r . Bc~e'rsan ~f :sandal l s showed conceptual dra~ngs of
la~dsca~e and uildi~:g design tc ~`ommissior~ aid to audience.
He said that Randal l s does nit. use inoiner~ters .`
~~
~.Q-18-g
F~~ ~i~ut~s
at tither ~sp~ets should be
~harm;~n Sac~telle 'said th
used at P~~.~d
r
d
d
a
• ~~ward. ~~~ asked ~
res ~.de .came ~
5 ~.~.
t~
2
~f
elev .
l~s: bane ~Ios
,• ~~ t~i~ done for increased t~a~f~.e flog as a
there ~~~.ll ~e Y ~
~esul~. o~ this de~el~pment
,,
~, here' are planned t~af~i~ o~~n~es ~.~
~r+ Pullen sale t..at t d ir~_ order tc
h~ area. ~tudi.es will'have.to be condu~te
t
• the need Cdr installing a ~~aff.~J llaht.
detcrm.~ne
• lle ol~sed the public he~rin~•
~halr~nan ~at~te
does nit include X11 of the
l~r . Pullen sa~.d that- the ~yat , net c~~r~t
• ~uk~di~,r.~ ion because the de~e I offer d.~.d
~hlmney H~.ll
.:thee nape ~f the s~~bdivisict~ change
e dope ~b~ut the p~eviousl
? asl~ed ~~ha can_ b
sin
s ~~ s
i~r
menti~e~ dra.na~e~~~neerns•
•~ ~~~~ into the situ~t~n and see
P~~.ler~ said that ~ta~f ~~;1 c
.~ ~ ~ ~ issued and if the 1Q0 ~e~r ~l~od Main was
.~.~ ~erm~~.s ~,er
a1~er~dj
• ~i i n the 100 year fled
~ - .r : Esmond asked li Ford ~a~ wor ~
~1ai~.
that when ~e 1oa?~ed at the
d
e
d
d
a
Pullen~~nswered y~s• xe .
• i t did nat lao?~: s~.gnl~~cantl~: ~~tered
site th~.s mcrn~.nc~~
~,~ d ~c ~ ced ~tal id e~ncerns and.
Mr . Es~.ond sa.~d that cltl~..ns ha,
~~
~ tie ~:r comments , ~e ~aou l d l ire tc~ h~~.~~ a
he ap~rec.~ated ~ ~o~°~ been done
fellow-u~ at. the next meet~.nn Qr~ status ey
ar~d i~ Main c~as altered: R~
. ~ 1~'ea3y~~' ~ ~ropos~.l gas bayed on
Ha l ~ sa 7 d t.~at. :~f th,~ a~~
~r
f~~~ da~~ ado, the ~ro~osal may' ~han~e
what ex.~stee. ~
aet~.ons w~~ ~h h~~e occurred en Ford ` s ~~~~ertT~
depending
r t ,, ~ ghat has t~~e ~ place was do~~~r~st~eam
~r . .t~a.1~~Zr~n~ sa~.d _that
~' r llCant'S pr4~~'-sa~ ~~r a d~tentl~r.
and d~?es nC~t a.~ ~e.~t the ~~~
,, , nee in the p~°op~sed flan w~~i ~h ~i~ l
p~~nd ~e hie. een~~det
~~;~r~: any: net ~~~ect an~,~thinc~ d~~nstre~.m .
~, ~ ~ ~ , reined ~ f ~ti~o~~ ~~fected the
s~~te.~1e a~.~ed ~.~ ~ here r~s~~~. ~
'~,
~ ~ l ~odp l ~.ln `on Fo?~d' `s property
• ~aeu~d aye t~~ ~~ rett?~need to its
Pul ? en ~a~~. that the sate
C}r'1~'~~a~ ~tat~s :
• ~ a~en de~nstseam ~.~ nit af~e~t
.~~ , rer~~r ~ s a ~ d that ~ct~:ons t ;, ~ - ~, ., sold
.(f~{ ~ ~ x~~e er t~7( The ~ oe~~:~e .~s a~~a~ns~re~~. and sh
i
~~~~. ~~~~'~t ~.~ndal ~. s .
r
~in~t~s ~~-1~-9d ~~
P&~
~ss`t+ Ci~~ Att~~ne~ ~~~tes as~~d why ~+~.~ F`c~rd'~ signature
a c~wr~er is can t~~ flat .
FuT~.~r said that Ford is in~lu~ed as a~a~er ~~ the lit
Mr
~hi~~ was s~bdvide~+
~r . ~a'~ ~. Wanted t~7' ~a~e s~.re t~la:t ~1~.at 1S presented lS
~enefi~ial t~ ~ve~~er~e+
~h~.irrn~n ~a~~elle said that staff pan e~e~~ in~.~? Fc~~d's
r,~pe.~t~. u~ i~ lees nc~t ~ffeet R~:ndal.? ~.
Derr Brads~~.W of 2 ~ ~ Fires ire said that tl~e drainage system
Y
~h~~.~d be irn~r~ve~ i f it has destr~~y~~. ~~ ~n~ Week dine by
an~~ne.
Ghalrl~an ~at~te~ ~.e said t~lat City` Engineer P'L~~. ~.en' W~u~.d
reS~ar~h he l~su~ further+
~ose~:e~ said that the f ~rap~er~ies ..are rebated if the
~s
drainage ~a~a.ct~ da~~ns~r~aln gangs {
~aWtel ~e said that a pr~~~.~~ ~~as c~eat~~ d~~rnst~eam
~e~ard~.e~s ~f Randal l~, She said th~~ it wil ~ ~~ h~.~d~ed
J
~u~.~ i ~~ C~~ t~'i1s l~~e~~..n~ +
Mr ~iami~c~ns said ~~;at the f l~ed~Ia~.n daWnstream ~.as nc~
~i _nif ranee i ~ regard to Randal. ~' s c~lculatians ~ He said
t~.at Randal I s is ~nee~.ing ~~di nan~~ rec~uir~men~s
C Celle said ~.~at the~~ .~.s a probl.e~ and the selutiQ~ lies
,~ aW
W1t~ Ferd+
Mr. gentry said. t~.ere ~.~ ~ ~~~~~.em b~~- it is nit' r~1.e~an~ to
~andal`l s r~~e?'"t~
r + ~ 4~i ~ ~ e ~ Jr L i [ +~-• a ~.r L d t 1 1~ a t t ~ e d e Len t ~ ~ 2 d f a '..! 1: ~ ~ t ~ ~it ~ ~ ~ to n ~ t. d/ e
~A ,~
~~ ~ i ~ end WC~1~ ~ d be ma i nt~.i? ~~d ~~g ~an~da ~. ~. s + t ~h~t~ ~ d
~'el~aln ~~l~.ed ~'- ~ + ~e aS~:Pt~. t~lat t~.e dra? n'~ge ' e~;Sel~t~nt
~~f ~r en~e sho~.~ d ~e r er~1'e`Ted fr~I~ ~;~.at
r + Fmon~. rude a ~~etien ~e reeemmend appreva? ~~ tY~e- ~l~t
~~sea en .~c~t ~ ~eee~.~n~~ pert of met 1 and re~nevyng t~e
dr dln~~e eaSe~E~nt desianatien + r ~ Cel sen se~~?nded the
.~.
~, ~ o We she~ld{ add that. 'Randa.1 s must manta i ~?
if
gall asked
~~ ~ ~ ''
t~iE ~.~.1: alxla ~!e f~..1E..J ~ .+.. ltd +
chairman ~a~~t~l1e ~eli~ved that it Wes und~r~teed
~~~e mat i ~n ~.arri~d .gin a ~nan~.mc~~s vote of 5-~'.
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