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Gn~nnisson had set a requirement of .
15 parking spaces far 8 ~a-carts at the Go-Cart
Track. on Holleman, 'which -incidental) is o .
y ~ the site of the propesed recre;anion
center under consideration at this ~neetin~. Mrs, Sa~tel '
comgi~ed any fi res fo le asked a.f staff had
~ r the old Pooh's Park and Mrs. Kee replied it did nat.
Sohn Hancock, Sr. , one of the a Iic" ,
Pp ants came forward to address any questa.onsthe
Gommissinners might have. He toted that ,. .
since the s~.te plan which ~s on the wall
was prepared, he had been. informed that the to
cata.on of the flood~ay, floa~dplain, and
other regulations set by the Wolf Pen.. Greek Garrid •
or pro,~ect had affected: has plans,....
and he will not be abbe to use as much of the land as:
were deafted. He s he -thau~;ht when these p].an~
fated he would now be changing his' plans `ta include onl 1~
of golf rather. than the 3b 4r~:~inall lane ~' hales
y P ed.
Mr Dresser paid that at the P.R.G.
review of ~hls pro~}ect, ~t was-mentioned there
is a similar facility in Austin and
he is wondering how the prapaaed gark~~n~
compares with that facility. Mr. Hancock sai ,
d .that facil~.ty Zn Austin ~s ])Dented in
a strip center. and is eared t '
., ~ o smallest children, so the comgarsonwould riot be .
valid sa.nce h s facility wa.l1 be geared to hi h schoe
b land.. college a people.
Mrl Dresser pointed out that an overfl ,
y ow park3.ng ~wa.l.l ga to streets or -roads, and- he
wandered if it is possible to provide' for fut
ure addit~.anal parking. if it x.s needed.
Mr. Hancock paid that if any p~an~ fare ansian
are made...additional. parka.ng would be
.,.provided..: Mr. Dresser .said he is refer ' ~ .
ring a add~.ta.onal parking for the iaca.la.ty as
it is ~rigina ly built if it becomes needed.
II, bo h re lied Mr• Hancock and has son, John ~ancack
p that because of the floadway and flaQdplain on this
the restrictions set forth in the wolf Pen property, and
,,shown Greek Gorrdar`praject, even the parkin
g
on the site plan on the wall wi l nit be allowed
revised, there ~vill onl ,and when.the plans are..
y be about ?Q parking spaces Ieft since parkin Tats '
be allowed in the f loodw g wa.l l not
ay ar flo~dplain,
Verbal comparisons were made between '
thz.s propa~ed facility and Fun City, +Games
People Play Houston}...and Humble Galf an '
that it h d Games,:: with he younger Mr. :Hancock stain
as been his observata.an that even in the busiest g
usually had a lot of em t hours, here faci:lities1
P y parking spaces because peep a tend to go o here `lac
In a group rather than done or with l other person. F es
Additional discussion. followed re' '
fort girding:how the; parking require~ent wan established
he Putt Putt facility at 1.~ spades er hole
the Cit - p ,With. Mr Hancock explain~~n `that
y had supplied that f~.gure to him, and probabi ha
Putt-Putt eorporatio~ rath ~ y t is a`figure s~~ by the-
er than by any particu arcit~.
Mr. -Esr~ond ;asked if i would be o ~ .
p ssible ~o revise the site p an to develop a
contingency plan if it is determined tha
Assistant'Cit t parking w~.ll be :allowed. Mark Smith,
y Engineer stated that development a.n he f
loodway ~.s prohibited, and
the only way development can take p-lace 1s a.ft
:,.asked if the floo he ~loadway is relocated. Mr. Esmond
dway and flood plain are shun on the site ~ r
.replied that they are not., brut he o. P ~ and Mr, smith
Mr. Esmon Panted out on the Phan the appra~i~nate boundaries)
d asked 'if the area could be ,used if. the
Mr. Smith re lied that ~PP~-~-cant. re-shapes: the ehannei dnd
p w~thoutaddress~.ng a specific p~apQSa1 that conc
same~hing which could be considered. ~ ept i~
He went: on to explain that because this
particular site is in the wolf Pen Car',
rldor, there could be some conflicts with 4
standards set fcr that area.
Mr. Michel asked how many Arkin- s
P g ..pads are left that are outside the flao `
Mr Hancock replied that there are a roxmat dway and
pp sly ?~ spaces left, and perhaps with
additional. modification to the site lan het
p ,
hinks that will be enough.
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Council Liaison Birdc~ell asked far ci
ariflcation regarding exactly how much land is
left to be developed .after the f •
loodway/f~.ood plain are-talon out, and eK lame'
lP d that
if that Iand cannot be used, zt should not
be considered in development o~P the sit
Mr. Hancock stated that with some revs' e'
ions which include the eiiminafion_ of a
miniature golf, he thinks approximately ?Q s aces utdaar
for the p will be mare than enough arkin
facility. - ~
Mr. ~}resser .said that he would s e
which is a ~~ st ~ space per 17v square ,feet of bul.dn area
compromise of the 2 types. of sh4 ins cen ~ '
hole for outdoor miniature pP ~ tern, plus 1.3.par~in~,~ spaces per
,: golf if theyhave it. Mrs. Sawte3le st
suggestlonwould not include an ather'o ated thst
~ utdaor uses. Mr. Dresser said that this site
....plan will be reviewed a~'an after it is
revised, and either this Commission can
establish:.a parking requirement for
alI - faca.l~.ties of this type and amend the
ordinance, or it can give these ea le it'
• ~ befit ~ud~nent an thus particular pro 'ect
to see if the.. fi p p' ~
gu.res proposed wall work.....
Mr. Hgncaek stated from the sudi .
ence that the parking-requirement being discussed
..will probably ki .l the- ro'ect
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Additional discussion followed re` •
and wheth larding ownership of other tracts. around phis one
er ar not additional-land could: be used for ~ '
compares with other similar fac' are Forking, haw 'this proposa
i 11 t i es ~.n Houston and Hub l e, how man s care
will be used far video games, possible d - y q feet
e annexation of some land from the wolf ,Fen
Corridor area, the:. boundaries of the `Tax
would affect increment Financn~':District and`:how that
.the wolf Pen Creek Corridor boundaries with
the :audience that these are 2 Mr•' B~.rdwell staff;ink from
distinctly different projects.
Mr. Dresser asked how man em la
Y p gees s~~.ll be needed far a facility of this t e and
size. and Mr. Hancock stated that .-
he estimates the number of emplo~rees gill be
~ and $. Mr. Esmond asked hats the r between
F apased nursery fits in if thin facility is
feared toward college and hi h sch
directe ~ oolaged people.- Mr, Hancock said it w11 he
d,_ and .,.,probably used::.:, by those ages but he h
as ound
fac111 t 1e~ l lke_ phis' on we that some fame I Zes use
ekends, l~r Esmond asked how the '•
Mr. Hancock said 'it will not be a t~dra - nursery ~zll operate and
. p off" type nursery, there will be '
ava~.lable, and added there will be na alcoholic np sitter
evera~es on the pre~paises.
Mrs . Kee informed ..the Gonamiss loner
s that if parking require~tents were established
breaking' dawn the indi~ridual ~~'
uses, they would to al a~pproximatel~ 6$, usin 1,3 er
hQ~.e of miniature golf, 1 er 15D ~ p
room and 1 ~ sq • feet of video pace ~ l per ~0~ sq. f t . art
per: employee:~$~. P Y
Mr, ::Dresser pointed out that b us'
would be a y ing l space per 240 square feet the re urement
ppraximately $~ spaces. kith-that informs ' ~
to seethe parking standard: tion, Mr. Dresser made ~ moti+on
for this project at 1 space per COQ s oar
indoor area, Mr. Colson seconde ~ _ e feet.. of
d .the... mot~.on.
Mr. 'Michel said he wou~Id like cIa ' ,
ra~f~.cation as tQ whether this: standard is -~-ein
for alI such focilites or fort g yet
.his specific facility, Mrs. Kee aimed o ;
can alwa~fs come. back for clarification ~ , ut staff'
or for anew -standard if a different
wit~i different proposed' uses co facilt~r
mes ~.n,- Mrs. Sawtelle s id she` would prefer settin a - E
s andard fQr this specific facilit . Mr. ~
~?resser stated that without a 'real site
plan, it is difficult to set a stand
and for onlyths facility. Mr, ~amond said t '~
because this plan wild. have to than a hat
wil b , is there a pc~ssibili y that: the re '
change the parking requirement, Mr. Hans vlsed plan
ock replied from the audience tha
f
acil~ity i~ already chan~in~~ and now he • t the
.only outside actwzta.es will be baton
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