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Mrs. Sawtelle made a motion to approve this C.U.P.as requested. Mr. Stewart
seconded the motion which carried unanimously (5-0).
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Mr. Stewart made amotion to approve the plat as ,presented with presubmission
conference conditions. Mrs. Sawtelle seconded the motion which carried unanimously
(5-0).
Mr. Colson
Mr. Brochu asked Mrs. Kee if the Commission is required to hold another public
hearing and Mrs. Keerepliedthat is, not required, and additionally, that all
adjacent property owners had beennotifiedby,staff that the public would be allowed
to speak at this meeting at the discretion of the Connnission.
'Mrs. Kee then explained that staff had met with Mr. Green, the applicant, and
discussed all the concerns mentioned at the previous meeting. Mr. Green then
decided after that meeting that he would request reconsideration of the original
site plan which had been tabled at the previous meeting.
She said that staff then had a brief meeting with Commissioners Dresser, Moore and
Stewart todiscussthecoIlcer~s voiced at the previous meeting which included
drainage, access and curbing requirements. She referredtoatnemo from Assistant
City Engineer Mark Smith which states that it is not necessary'for drainage from this
site to be directed to Marcy-Lane sincestormwater can be channeled to the drainage
ditch along Highway 30. The memo explains that access shown on the site plan is
preferred over other options since a driveway from this site directly to Harvey Road
would conflict with traffic from, Marcy Lane, and points out that the City's current
policy encourages access to minor streets whenever that option is available as it is
in this instance. The memo also explains that in addition to aesthetic reasons for
requiring curbing around parking areas, curbing is used to Idefine and direct traffic
circulation and to channelize storm drainage, and as a policy, concrete curbing is
the City's minimum standard.
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Discussionfollowedregardingthose~<concernsandresponses.. from Mr. Smith, wi th. Mrs.
Kee and Mr. Pul1enaddingclarificationof.eertainpointsfromtime to time in the
discussion~
Mr. Broch.u .thenexplainedithatapublichearingis .not..required .forthisi tem, but he
asked theCommissioners.iftheywould .like. .toopenthemeeting ..f or pub lie ...comment
anyway. All agreed it would. be appropriate to invite the public to speak.
DanielGreen,pasforof>thesubjectchurchcameforwardandstated.that the. church
,would. be happy to direct ......drainagefromthissi te.. to. Highway . .30... if so.. directed. He
then said thatthecostfact()~()f.curbing>was . certainly important , but the church
would still like the.CoBDDis.sionersto~considergrantinga variance to: that ,
'requirementsincetherear~>otb.err~a~onsinvoIved.. .He .said.that . the church has
ascertained that curbing along Marcy..tane.is the .onlyplacei twouldbeused to
controltraffic,andhepointedoutt~at})erms, wheelstops.orhedges<along the edge
could.beusedforthesame:pu};pos~,~ddthe.churchwouldryquest that.theCommission
considersometreatmentforthep~rkinglototherthancurbing.
Richara...Hartmann,. ....34....Marcy1ane ...came.....forward and stated. . that . .the deeds for. this
subdivisionspecify...itisfor .reside~tial.11seonlY .....and... those.deeds are filed for
record in Volume 280 Page 264 qftheDeedRecords of Brazos County, Texas>.
Leo.nardFox,.amember:ofthe>church:cameforward and stated that forI. 2 miles from
this site to the East Bypass there a.r~'Jlo curbs, and the church would like to know
whentheCityplanstocurbMaricyLall!e:or~Highway 30 if curbing is going;:to .be
required on this . parking lot. .. [He staoted that the church would really. rather to be
allowed to use berms, hedges, <etc. to:control traffic rather than curbing.
Mr.StewartaskedMr.Foxifheisa~kingfor a variance to curbing on the church's
lot because Marcy Lane and Highway>30 arenot curbed. Mr. Fox replied that the church
will use curbing if it is requiired, Jout would like for the City to tell the people
when the streets in the area will be curbed and gut tered..
Mr. . Colson stated he is ..opposedtore.quiring this church to. curb and gutter. a parking
lotwhennothingelse..inthe.aIleahascurbing,.and just about 4 weeks .ago this. very
Commission granted a variance to the}leaceLutheranChurchinside the City to that
same requirement.
Mr. Stewart. explained the variance. was granted to .Peace Lutheran Church because it
was adding parking to. existing parkillg and wanted the treatment of the.lot to be
continued as it exists. Mr. Colson stated that may be so, but he would prefer
consistency. in decisions. ...Mr.Stewar;treplied that requiring curbing for this church
wouldnotrepresentincoIlsistency,sinceall. the new.projects in this area were
requiredto,anddohavecurbedpark~ng lots. He then named Furrows, Aldersgate
Methodist Church and the CatholicChllrch on the Bypass as examples of large curbed
parking. lots.
Mr. Colson said he still disagrees with this. requirement.
Mr. Brochu. then pointedout.2churches in the near vicinity of the Peace Lutheran
Church which had to include curbing on; the parking lots. He agreed that he strives
for consistency,andoverallbe1ievestheCommission has been consistent it its
requirements. He said. that he thinks the variance granted to Peace Lutheran Church
represents.. the exception totherule,and s}lould not be used to set a new policy,
adding that each project should be judged on its own merits.
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Mr. .Stewart.madea...mo~ion.toapprove...thissite......planasprese.nted...wi th. the. condition
that.. ..all........drainage...'must...bedirected .to..S.H.30...and...not.. ....to..Marcy.....Lane,.. ...and. that. the
applicant .isrequired.tQFOnstruc~ e"normal parking lot"llsed in College Station,
thatis,that thispark~nglotshouldincludecurbsandgutters. Mr. Moore seconded
the motion.
Mrs. Keea$kediftheC()DIlDis.sionisaPr>roving the plan with the addition of the 2
trees. whichwollld. berequiredfortttocomplywith ordin~celandscapereqllirements.
Mr. .Stewart.saicl<hewouldamend.....his....motion. ..to ...require. . landscaping. .to.. meet.. ..ordinance
reqllirements.. .f>fr.MoQresecondedandacceptedthe .amendme~t. Votes were cast on the
motion as.. amended with the<motion....carryingby.avoteof.4-1. {Colson . against) .
AGBNDAITEM<NO. 6: Continuation of Review. of Goals, Objectives
and Development Policies.
Mr. Moore briefly reviewed. the t.hird rev1s1onof the Utilities section of Goals &
Objectives. All agreed they were now acceptable.
Mr. Stewart referred to the Housing ,section, of Goals & Objectives he and Mrs.
Sawtellehadpreparedandexplainedrthattheyhad madean~ttempt to take out
superf1 uous> .wor-ding,..redundancies;:~dthingstheydeemedinappropriate . for inclusion
in this section. Hesaidtherha<:lEfventhought abouthavilJg2goals; one for new
housing...and one....for... existing..housing,....and .asked....for....advice ifrom. the Commission.
Mr. Stewart alsoexr>lfiined that the ,existing commissions and boards primarily
functiontohearreques ts f o.rvariancestocodes ,but .donotapparently actually
evaluate ..... existing codes... except . for . the Structural Standards.. Board . which.. .eval uates
materials which can>beusedincoIlstruction. .... He said that Iheand Mrs. Sawtelle
thought perhap~ <aboard .orbo.ards..should.beappointed whic~ do evaluate current
codes. .. .. . .. ,
Discussion followed concerning theobjective......coveringthe development ..of diversified
types of housing for 1 owl fixed . incomegroups,.withMr.Colsonsaying that .he does not
think the City should address low income housing.. Mrs. Sawtell e explained.that.the
new wording says exactly the same thing the old wording .says,butsomeverbage has
been removed", Mr. Stewart informed Mr. Colson that staff ~as requested the inclusion
of an objective of this nature in order to comply with H.U.ID.requirements. Mrs .Kee
explainedthat thecomm\1IlityDevelo~ment program addresses Ihousing for these groups,
and staff from that. division <have informed the Planning division that inclusion of a
statementofthisnaturein>alongerangeplanning documen~ such as The Plan is
useful to those . programs.
Mr. Moore asked how the City encourages retirees <to settle here, specifically
regarding asecondhouseona lot, etc. He added that he believes codes should
address this issue. Mrs..Keeexplained that the zoning ordinance does allow more
than 1 house onalotand it also addresses use of accessory structures for housing
relatives or servants.
Mr. Moore asked what theCity'spositioDiwouldbe with regard to being more active in
promoting this type of growth. . Mrs. Keestated that she cannot . answer how active the
City might want to be, but added that the patio homes on Anderson were sought and
approved....throughL.U.L.A.C.,. and thattheiordinance addresses flexibility in lot sizes
with theR-IA zoning.district.
Mr. Brochl1statedthattheexisting ordinances have the means to allow a variety of
housing,buthedoesnotknow if this particular document should be used to promote
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