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MINUTES
CITY OF COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS
Planning and Zoning Commission
July 19, 1984
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Cha,irmanHansen, Members Brochu, MacG i lv ray ,Ma rtyn ,Ka i ser ,
Stallings and Tongco
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Assistant Director of Planning Callaway, City Engineer Pullen
~nd Planning Technician Volk
AGENDA ITEM NO. 1: Approval of Minutes- meeting of July 5, 1984
Mrs. Tongcorequestedchanges underAgendaftem No.8, indicating that she had
requested a meeting of theCommunltyAppearance Committee to discuss a project along
Bee Creek, rather than having been asked to serve on the Committee. With that change,
Mr. MacGilvray made amotion to approve the minutes; Mrs. Tongco seconded the motion,
) which carried 6-0-1 (Kaiser abstained).
AGENDA ITEM NO.2: HearVisitors
No one spoke.
AGENbA ITEM NO.3: 84-713; Apubllc hear.ingon the question of granting a Conditional
a rel iiouseducat ion and worshi pcompl ex. on "at ract located approx i mate 1
of the intersection of Texas AvenueandF.M. 21 . Application is in the
Baptlst"'Church.
Mr. Call.awaylocated the tract of land, explained plans for the widening and extension of
Dartmouth and 2818 (Millers Lane) in the future and also explained this Conditional Use
Permit request is for the purpose of determining whether the Commission would approve the
location of a church facility on the tract prior to the purchase of the land, and that the
applicant is aware that this Commission willalso have to grant site plan approval at a
later date before any building can be done. He also explained that if the Commission
approves thlsrequesttonight, staff recommends that a condition of approval would be that
'development would be limited until either the Dartmouth extension or the 2818 extension
is complete, as the existing access to this tract is not adequate. Mr. MacGi lvray asked'
staff if this request might not be premature, but Mr. Callaway replied that if the, limi-
tation recommended by staffisi,ncluded Lnthe approval as a condition and if the appl icant
is made aware that this Commission also has final site plan approval prior to issuance of
a building permit, the problems which might arise from this early request would be
covered. Mr. Hansen askedTf an additionalpubl ic hearing would be held i~ the future, and
Mr. Callaway replied that it would be held at the time the Commission reviews the site
plan asordinancerequJres.
Thepubl ic hearing was opened.
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AntoneSlafka,131 Millers Lane, came forward and asked the distance from this tract to
the Lakevlew Acres Subdivision. Mr. Callaway explained that this land is adjacent to the
subdivision. Mr.Slafka$tated then that his land is adjacent to this tract. Mr. Kaiser
asked staff to poInt out exact zoning in the. area, andM'r.Callawaycompl ied. Mr. Slafka
asked If granting this permit tonight would make that tr~ctacommercial zone. Mr. Martyn
explained that the tract would remain a residential zone iand that certain things, such as
churches and schools, are issued conditional use permitslwhichcanbe issued in any zoning
district, but the land does.not change zoning district,~ndthepermrtwhich is issued
only applies to a particular project. Discussionfollow~d concerning the probable width
of Millers Lane (-z818) when the extension is made, with ~rs.Tongcopointing out that staff
has indicated that. the exact location of.either Millers~aneor. Da~tmouth has not been
determined. Mr.Slafkaasked if a church is considered~ commercial project. Mr~ Martyn
again explained ,that certain things, such as churches and schools, ,are allowed by ordinance
in any zoning district if a Conditional Use Permit is ap~roved,b4tthe zoning of the land
does not change with the issuance of a permit, and lif th~projectis not built for which
the use permit was approved, the land stays the same.l~ thls;castt, the land is zoned for
residential use, and should this church decide not to bu~ldthis p~()ject, only residential
projects could be built there. Mr. Kaiser asked Mr. Sla~ka wh~t ~E!thought of the request
fora churthnext to his land. Mr. Slafka stated that h~ bel ieves..it is a fine idea if
the roads are extended and widened, but as the roads exl~t now, any additional traffic
wo~ld be impossible. :
Clint Bertrand, 120 Mlllers Lane, came forward stating he,ismore in favor of this request
than he is against it, adding that this is a very goodtsi,tefor a church if there are
) adequate street.s developed.. He added that probably In t~e future he would open Morgans
Lane to this sIte also. ' ,
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No one else sp0ke. The public hearing was closed.
Mr. Martyn asked theapplJcant (Pastor Bob Owens came fo~wardas a representative) exactly
what was planned on this 7+ acres. Mr.OwensexplaineeJtthat the request for a Conditional-
Use:,\"~~erm.i t has been made todetermlnei f this Commi 55 io~would rule favourab 1 y for
estabJishmentof a church In this location beforethechyrch actually buys this land. He
said that' the church is aware that before the site plan isapproved,th,is Commission will
have to holdanadditionalpublTc hearing at which time a ruling will be made on the actual
site plan. He .stated that he cannotg ive a grand tota,l of the square footage p 1 8nned, as
exact drawlngshave not been made, but he would estimatelthatthe first building which
would be:usedforworshlpwould be in the neighborh~odo~2000 square feet, with the second
~~iigb~\;:ri~~~~i~ b~eU:~:ofl~d~i~~:~ ~~~~01n~n1u~~~1;1~~::~~~0~~s~0~i/~:k:e~i~~~r~~od
need 5 demand ,them . Mr. Martyn8sked the number of membel'j's i nth i 5 congrega t ion, and Mr.
Owens indicated that it now ranges from 75 to'100person$. Mr. Martyn stated that two
2000 square-footbuildlngs do not seem like muchona 7--qcre tract, 'and he is concerned
that future expansions might well cover ,the entire,trac~, which would be an undesireabJy
large facility in a residential neighborhood. Mr.,Owenslstatedthat the buildings as
o'utlined on the drawing on the wall are not to scale, as :thosefigures have not yet been
determi ned ,but ra'ther represent the general location of: theparki n9 lot, the bu i Id i ngs
and the recreatl0na,l area they hope to inc lude. Mr .Ma r~yn asked lfhe (Mr. Owens) wou 1 d
think it unreasonable for this CommissIon to want to seeisomekind of plar) for development
of the land prior to granting approval of this request. ,'Mr. Owens repeated that right now
thechurchi-sonly Interestedinfinding out if this land can be used for a church, and
there are nospeciflcplan?developedasyetto be preserftedto this Commission. Mr.
MacGilvray asked what would hClppenifthisConditlonal U~e Permit is approved tonight and
some of the land is later sold. Mr. Callaway explained~hat site plans are not being
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consi d.eredtonight, soeveni f thi srequest foraConditlonalUsePermi t for I and use is
granted tonight, there are no guarantees that the Commls~ion wIll approve a site plan in
the future. He went on to explain that should someone p~rchasepart of the property,
they have not purchased the right to build a church, as that <permit stays with the appl icani
Mr. MacGllvrayasked if a religious school is being planhed, and Mr. Owens replied that
it is not, that only some Bible classes and Sunday schoo~classesareplanned. Mr. Kaiser
asked what would be the Jmpacton the church's plan top~rchasetheland if this Commission
were to grant approVal of a Conditional Use Permit on on'y4 acres of the land. Mr. Owens
replied that they want to buy the entir.e} acres as their dreams include having room for
recreational facilities (perhaps a volleyball court, etc!.,) and theycwill come back later
for any additlonalpermits for specific uses." Mr. MacGiJvrayasked,ifi partial approval
could ,even be considered,and Mr. Callaway replied that hcan" but:~ot at this meeting
because spec If i c bounda ry lines cannot be drawn. He theh exp I a ined:~ga i n that the site
plan will<have to come backto this Commission forapproyal asreql!:life.d by Ordinance.
Mr. Martyn stated he fears a project as large as this co~ld be may Ay,e1r-impact this area,
and approval of this request may even give this applicant fals~ hopE11as the Commission
could determine the development is too large at site plarh revi~w, but that generally he
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would dJsag-reewithsetting any specific number of acres! tonight.
Mr. Hansen pointed out that this congregation isrelativ~ly small and that raising' the
required amount of money <for building willtakeacerta i ~ amount of time, and a 150 reminded
the Commissioners thattheP&Zwillhaveflnal approval ~ftheproject at site plan review.
He added that the City would be more favourable to this type of use on a large tract than
it would to a large facility on a smalll tract. ,Mr. Brochu added that 2 major streets
inters:ectlng at this locati9nwould lessen t~e impact ofalarge facility should the tract
be fully deve10pedin the f&ture. Mr. Kaiser asked Mr. Callaway to point out specLfic
projects in the area, and Mr~.. Callaway complied. Discuss:ion regardimg location of the
flood plaln followed, with Mr. Pullen refusing to give specific answers to questions,
indicating that would require additional information which is not avai.lable to him at this
meeting. Mrs. Tongco pointed> out that a church in this area would serve as a buffer be-
twe,e,n" a major intersection and area residences. Mr. MacGllvra'l stated he would really
rathE!'r have more information regardlngpossible development. Mr. Brochu explained that all
this applicant is requesting is for this Commission to say whether or not it is O.K. for
a church to be at. this location~
Mr, Kaiser stated that approval of this request would be afmost like rezoning this land
fora church to use all 7 acres, and he Is concerned because he does not know what future
developmentwlll be along these streets. "He added that setting this type of precedent
concerns him. Mr. MacGilvraypointedout that the area residents are not only not opposed
to thlsrequest,but lnfactare in favor of it. Mr. Brechuasked what.negative impact
a church would have on.>the area, and Mr. Kaiser said that-the amount of traffic generated
could be a problem, addln9that approvalofachurch at this location might even pr-,eclude
residential development in the area. Mr. Brochus.ald th~t,if this church fell through
and the land was not developed for a church facility, it!would revert back to residential
zoning and that type of development would be required.
Mrs. S-talllngsmadea motion_to approve this request for a Conditional Use Permit subject
to development; of adequate access and site ,plan approval prior to any building. Mr.
MacGi]vrayseco~ded the motion which carried 5-2 (Kaiser Martyn).
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Mr. Kalserexplalned that he voted against the motion because this Commission has not
rece i vedfullinformatJon regarding access, to the tract~ and because 'he bel i eves
thlsis setting a precedent of land use without complete information.
Mr. Martyn stated that he voted against the motion because he believes this Commission
lacks specific information necessary to make adequatejudgemeneofthis request.
AGENDA ITEM NO. 4: Other Business.
Mr. MacGilvray asked about the ordinance regarding zoning in the Northgate area, and
Mr. Callaway replied that Mr. Mayo is working on a draft which he hopes to present to
this Comri'rissionsome time in August and that the Zoning Board of Adjustment had just
requested a works,hop whlchwas recently held to explain 'what is being planned.
Mr. Brochu asked if there was still going to be aworksijop regarding the development of
The Parks whichincluded>this Commission and thedevelopers"anCl Mr. Callaway replied
that he did not know, but the Commission would be notifiled of pilans.
Mrs. Tongco stated she would not be in attendance at the August 2nd meeting and then
requested that someone cover for her at the August 22nd P.R.C.
Mr. Martyn made a motlontoadJourn with Mr. MacGilvray seconding. Motion carried
un?nimously.
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APPROVED:
Stephen Hansen" Chairman
ATTEST:
DlanJones, City'Secretary
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